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Glazer: Giants wanted McCarthy for a 2nd interview

GloryDayz : 1/6/2020 1:59 pm
Said it on Cowherd...

McCarthy apparently "couldnt do that".

Did the Giants dodge a bullet or lost out on a guy they wanted?

My gut says if they really wanted him, they wouldnt have let him leave without a contract.

Some gamesmanship by the Giants.... Rushing JJ into a decision?
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Dodged a bullet...  
Chris in Philly : 1/6/2020 2:01 pm : link
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I think any of these guys interviewing.....  
BillKo : 1/6/2020 2:02 pm : link
...could do the job.

I'm honestly warming up to the idea of Garrett.

Players respect and play hard for him.

Former QB, helps Daniel Jones.

Will hire a good staff.

And I'd be interested to see him in a different environment than Dallas.

My one question, who made the decision to hire the young OC..........him, or did that directive come from somewhere else?
In that same interview..  
Sean : 1/6/2020 2:02 pm : link
He said Rhule is their number 1 target.
Inept Management  
GiantsBack2020 : 1/6/2020 2:02 pm : link
Dear God
Inept Management  
GiantsBack2020 : 1/6/2020 2:03 pm : link
Dear God
RE: Dodged a bullet...  
mfsd : 1/6/2020 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14760922 Chris in Philly said:
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+1
post it again post it again  
UConn4523 : 1/6/2020 2:04 pm : link
post it again!
The Giants  
Dnew15 : 1/6/2020 2:04 pm : link
area all in on Rhule it would seem.

That's a lot of chips in that basket right now.
RE: Inept Management  
jlukes : 1/6/2020 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14760930 GiantsBack2020 said:
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Dear God


I swear you're Eric or gidies dupe.

Because that's the only logical reason you're still allowed to post here. To generate clicks with your keyboard diarrhea
Every HC should have to have a second interview but if the Giants  
Ivan15 : 1/6/2020 2:05 pm : link
Wanted McCarthy back for a second interview, he should have been their guy.
RE: Inept Management  
Saquads26 : 1/6/2020 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14760930 GiantsBack2020 said:
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Dear God


You’re an idiot of epic proportions.
Get Rhule done tomorrow.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/6/2020 2:05 pm : link
After him, the remaining candidates leave alot left to be desired, IMO.
Giants  
Jolly Blue Giant : 1/6/2020 2:05 pm : link
Probably trying to buy time so they can interview Rhule first before deciding on McCarthy.
McCarthy demanded to sleep over at the Mara residence  
bceagle05 : 1/6/2020 2:06 pm : link
but John was a little creeped out.
Seems pretty clear...  
bw in dc : 1/6/2020 2:06 pm : link
McCarthy chose the team with the better talent in place. A team he thinks can compete right away for big prizes.

Nothing more, nothing less.
RE: Seems pretty clear...  
BleedBlue : 1/6/2020 2:08 pm : link
In comment 14760949 bw in dc said:
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McCarthy chose the team with the better talent in place. A team he thinks can compete right away for big prizes.

Nothing more, nothing less.


or he just jumped at a hefty offer considering he didnt have any last yhear
RE: Get Rhule done tomorrow.  
GloryDayz : 1/6/2020 2:08 pm : link
In comment 14760946 Dave in Hoboken said:
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After him, the remaining candidates leave alot left to be desired, IMO.


Agreed... wouldnt even bother with McDaniels interview unless Rhule isnt willing to commit on the spot.
RE: Seems pretty clear...  
BillKo : 1/6/2020 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14760949 bw in dc said:
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McCarthy chose the team with the better talent in place. A team he thinks can compete right away for big prizes.

Nothing more, nothing less.


Yep, and I think that fits McCarthy a bit better than here.

It's very similar to what he inherited at Green Bay, established QB and talented roster.
McCarthy might have  
darren in pdx : 1/6/2020 2:11 pm : link
been their 2nd choice after Rhule. Thankfully there are still some interesting choices available still if they don’t hire Rhule.
RE: Seems pretty clear...  
Tom in NY : 1/6/2020 2:11 pm : link
In comment 14760949 bw in dc said:
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McCarthy chose the team with the better talent in place. A team he thinks can compete right away for big prizes.

Nothing more, nothing less.


No. Rhule has been #1 Target all along, the 2nd interview for McCarthy was the "due diligence/back-up plan" if Rhule is a no go. It's very obvious.
RE: Seems pretty clear...  
GloryDayz : 1/6/2020 2:11 pm : link
In comment 14760949 bw in dc said:
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McCarthy chose the team with the better talent in place. A team he thinks can compete right away for big prizes.

Nothing more, nothing less.


Or the Giants werent ready to make him an offer
So much for us being  
Thankyoueli : 1/6/2020 2:12 pm : link
The #1 destination. Top 2 candidates off the board, bring on the experiment head coaches.

Ya know for years I feared after Eli we would be in for a long ride on the QB carousel, looks like we've managed to avoid that.. and jumped on the coaching carousel instead. Fantastic.
RE: So much for us being  
BleedBlue : 1/6/2020 2:14 pm : link
In comment 14760966 Thankyoueli said:
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The #1 destination. Top 2 candidates off the board, bring on the experiment head coaches.

Ya know for years I feared after Eli we would be in for a long ride on the QB carousel, looks like we've managed to avoid that.. and jumped on the coaching carousel instead. Fantastic.


um....what? for all we know its the giants who dont want MM or rivera. why does it have to be other way around. i think its very clear at this poiont rhule is target #1. until we hear that candidate X that we really liked turned down the job, your argument holds NO WATER. the giants are a desired job....we just didnt desire those candidates over rhule who we have yet to interview
this  
ryanmkeane : 1/6/2020 2:14 pm : link
tells me nothing
RE: RE: Seems pretty clear...  
bw in dc : 1/6/2020 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14760964 GloryDayz said:
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In comment 14760949 bw in dc said:


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McCarthy chose the team with the better talent in place. A team he thinks can compete right away for big prizes.

Nothing more, nothing less.



Or the Giants werent ready to make him an offer


Maybe. But I'm talking about from MM's perspective since he wasn't going to take the follow-up interview with the Giants...
Maybe the Giants  
pjcas18 : 1/6/2020 2:17 pm : link
learned a lesson by falling for the Eagles fake McAdoo interest and floated their own ruse of McCarthy interest to push Dallas to make an early decision.

It would be nice to have an ownership group/front office that was this sinister.
...  
ryanmkeane : 1/6/2020 2:17 pm : link
NYG have one of the youngest rosters in the league, young promising QB, ton of cap space. Want a 'CEO' type coach that isn't focused entirely on offense or defense. Build a program for sustained winning with a new voice that can translate to modern NFL.

That guy is Rhule, not McCarthy.
McCarthy ran a good plan  
mdc1 : 1/6/2020 2:17 pm : link
hit everyone VERY quickly. He is slightly at a disadvantage. I watched that Peter King interview and was left with a big "NO" after watching it. Seemed like someone that thinks that he stacks up a bunch of videos as an optic in a tech barn leads to the question, what the heck were you doing in Green Bay when it really mattered? Timing is everything as is staying up to date and relevant on the tech of this changing game.
RE: Inept Management  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/6/2020 2:18 pm : link
In comment 14760930 GiantsBack2020 said:
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Dear God


LOL. No elaboration. Beyond the scope of this fucking moron.
RE: RE: Seems pretty clear...  
bw in dc : 1/6/2020 2:19 pm : link
In comment 14760954 BleedBlue said:
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In comment 14760949 bw in dc said:


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McCarthy chose the team with the better talent in place. A team he thinks can compete right away for big prizes.

Nothing more, nothing less.



or he just jumped at a hefty offer considering he didnt have any last yhear


Even if there was a hefty offer, which doesn't hurt, I still think he got handed a pretty good situation to hit the ground running.
we  
BleedBlue : 1/6/2020 2:19 pm : link
have NO CLUE what went on behind the scenes so lets stop assuming shit.

for all giants have their eye on rhule and were will to lose MM because they liked rhule much more...
RE: RE: RE: Seems pretty clear...  
BleedBlue : 1/6/2020 2:21 pm : link
In comment 14760991 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14760954 BleedBlue said:


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In comment 14760949 bw in dc said:


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McCarthy chose the team with the better talent in place. A team he thinks can compete right away for big prizes.

Nothing more, nothing less.



or he just jumped at a hefty offer considering he didnt have any last yhear



Even if there was a hefty offer, which doesn't hurt, I still think he got handed a pretty good situation to hit the ground running.


he absolutely did. my point was, it isnt gauranteed to be the sole reason. he could have flat out just wanted to be in dallas vs NY. idc either way, i didnt want him but my point is this doesnt diminish the giants job or make it less desirable and this is proof
Nothing wrong with  
ryanmkeane : 1/6/2020 2:21 pm : link
McCarthy going to Dallas. Blank check from Jerry and a talented roster. No income tax in Texas. He's almost 60...this is his last stop as a HC most likely.

I'm of the opinion that NYG all along wanted to go young program builder with HC experience. They had Rhule in mind all along, and are probably pissed they didn't try to hire him in 2018.
Definitely dodged a bullet  
The_Boss : 1/6/2020 2:22 pm : link
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Schefter all along  
ryanmkeane : 1/6/2020 2:23 pm : link
was saying Rhule or McDaniels to NYG...looks like that is the case.

I'd be extremely happy with Rhule, and still somewhat happy with McDaniels.
RE: So much for us being  
GloryDayz : 1/6/2020 2:23 pm : link
In comment 14760966 Thankyoueli said:
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The #1 destination. Top 2 candidates off the board, bring on the experiment head coaches.

Ya know for years I feared after Eli we would be in for a long ride on the QB carousel, looks like we've managed to avoid that.. and jumped on the coaching carousel instead. Fantastic.


I'm assuming you're talking about Rivera & McCarthy... how do you know they were the Giants 2 top candidates?
..  
ryanmkeane : 1/6/2020 2:26 pm : link
peppers has been lurking around here, and somewhat laughed at the idea that McCarthy was a "top tier/serious candidate" for NYG...he's been saying Rhule all along
Always be worried about the guy  
Dankbeerman : 1/6/2020 2:26 pm : link
who nobody wanted last year and is considered a top guy this time around.

RE: Seems pretty clear...  
KeoweeFan : 1/6/2020 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14760949 bw in dc said:
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McCarthy chose the team with the better talent in place. A team he thinks can compete right away for big prizes.

Nothing more, nothing less.

All we know is that Dallas made an offer to McCarthy and he chose to accept. He most likely left NY without an offer; and he can read reports like the rest of us that the Giants prefer Rhule.

To me there is no evidence that the respective talent level of the two teams was the deciding factor.

RE: Nothing wrong with  
GiantsBack2020 : 1/6/2020 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14761000 ryanmkeane said:
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McCarthy going to Dallas. Blank check from Jerry and a talented roster. No income tax in Texas. He's almost 60...this is his last stop as a HC most likely.

I'm of the opinion that NYG all along wanted to go young program builder with HC experience. They had Rhule in mind all along, and are probably pissed they didn't try to hire him in 2018.


If it’s what we wanted why did we want a 2nd interview? How do we know we didn’t want Rivera either? Skins and Dallas signed their guys on the spot. Same could happen with Rhule, doesn’t mean it will, but it’s not in our hands.
RE: Inept Management  
geelabee : 1/6/2020 2:28 pm : link
In comment 14760932 GiantsBack2020 said:
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+1
GiantsBack  
ryanmkeane : 1/6/2020 2:28 pm : link
why would the Giants just hire a guy without hearing other pitches from extremely qualified candidates? That would be pathetic. That's what franchises like the Redskins do.
RE: Inept Management  
geelabee : 1/6/2020 2:29 pm : link
In comment 14760930 GiantsBack2020 said:
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Dear God


+1
RE: So much for us being  
GiantGolfer : 1/6/2020 2:29 pm : link
In comment 14760966 Thankyoueli said:
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The #1 destination. Top 2 candidates off the board, bring on the experiment head coaches.

Ya know for years I feared after Eli we would be in for a long ride on the QB carousel, looks like we've managed to avoid that.. and jumped on the coaching carousel instead. Fantastic.


The top 2 candidates are still available.
RE: RE: RE: Seems pretty clear...  
GloryDayz : 1/6/2020 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14760983 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14760949 bw in dc said:


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McCarthy chose the team with the better talent in place. A team he thinks can compete right away for big prizes.

Nothing more, nothing less.



Or the Giants werent ready to make him an offer



Maybe. But I'm talking about from MM's perspective since he wasn't going to take the follow-up interview with the Giants...


Would you take a 2nd interview with a potential employer, no guarantees, and leave a confirmed job offer?

RE: Nothing wrong with  
geelabee : 1/6/2020 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14761000 ryanmkeane said:
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McCarthy going to Dallas. Blank check from Jerry and a talented roster. No income tax in Texas. He's almost 60...this is his last stop as a HC most likely.

I'm of the opinion that NYG all along wanted to go young program builder with HC experience. They had Rhule in mind all along, and are probably pissed they didn't try to hire him in 2018.


Now watch the young program builder say NO...I am going back to Baylor...Absolute management ineptitude!!!!
Are we seriously  
ryanmkeane : 1/6/2020 2:32 pm : link
still talking about Rivera? He clearly wasn't an option, I'm sure if Giants were totally 100% convinced he would be great, they would have made the call. Gettleman wasn't going to say anything about that in the press conference so he said something to the effect of "the deal was done" in Washington which it basically seemed like that was done weeks before the season was even over. Snyder wanted him, Rivera wanted Skins.

Giants aren't going to cry about losing out on Ron Rivera. He's a good coach, but they've wanted Rhule above all others anyway. It didn't matter.
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ryanmkeane : 1/6/2020 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14761037 GiantGolfer said:
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The top 2 candidates are still available.

Yup
RE: RE: Nothing wrong with  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/6/2020 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14761021 GiantsBack2020 said:
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In comment 14761000 ryanmkeane said:


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McCarthy going to Dallas. Blank check from Jerry and a talented roster. No income tax in Texas. He's almost 60...this is his last stop as a HC most likely.

I'm of the opinion that NYG all along wanted to go young program builder with HC experience. They had Rhule in mind all along, and are probably pissed they didn't try to hire him in 2018.



If it’s what we wanted why did we want a 2nd interview? How do we know we didn’t want Rivera either? Skins and Dallas signed their guys on the spot. Same could happen with Rhule, doesn’t mean it will, but it’s not in our hands.


Rivera wasn't hired on the spot. There were discussions going on for several weeks.

Just do a little basic fucking research. The news in Charlotte discussed Rivera's interest in Washington and that he was talking with them right after being let go:

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"Right after Friday the week after I was let go, Mr. Snyder reached out to my agent, so the two of them talked for a couple of days, then I got a phone call from Mr. Snyder on Monday the following week and we started talking," Rivera explained during his introductory presser. "We talked the first day for about 40 minutes and the second day for about 20 and then I went and I got a bunch of tape."

According to Rivera, that tape, which spanned across many games, showed him a collection of players who battled. That stood out to him, particularly in a lost season. So then he started having more serious discussions with Dan Snyder.
RE: GiantsBack  
GiantsBack2020 : 1/6/2020 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14761030 ryanmkeane said:
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why would the Giants just hire a guy without hearing other pitches from extremely qualified candidates? That would be pathetic. That's what franchises like the Redskins do.


The Giants are overthinking and slow to act, everyone on this board has Rhule hired before his 1st interview. Both Dallas and the Skins hired their guys on the spot. No 2nd interview was needed with McCarthy. He met with THE people here, it wasn’t a set of ladder interview. The guy has won 130 games and a SB. If you want a 2nd interview it means you wanna hire him, so make an offer. There are 0 other competent reasons to have wanted to meet with him again. His resume is on film.
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