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Judge PC over: First Impression?

LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/9/2020 2:33 pm
Love the hire.
Wow  
M.S. : 1/9/2020 2:34 pm : link

That was f-ing impressive!

Put me in coach.

I'm ready to play.

Today.
Loved the PC  
BlackLight : 1/9/2020 2:34 pm : link
Not at all surprised he interviewed well in the room with Mara and Gettleman.
I'm on board  
18E : 1/9/2020 2:34 pm : link
Loved what he had to say and his delivery.... No bullshit.
FULL  
Pork Chop : 1/9/2020 2:34 pm : link
BLOOM
Sold.  
magnum4413 : 1/9/2020 2:35 pm : link
WOW.
.  
Danny Kanell : 1/9/2020 2:35 pm : link
Iím blown away. This looks like a hell of a hire.
I Thought the Presser Was Great  
Giants38 : 1/9/2020 2:35 pm : link
He sounded like an actual football guy. Why can't our GM sound that way when speaking to the media?
My First Impression  
DRich1980 : 1/9/2020 2:35 pm : link
I would walk through a brick wall for this guy
Very impressive guy.  
The_Boss : 1/9/2020 2:35 pm : link
No "mums"; "ya knows?", etc...very direct answers and statements...quite a stark difference from the last 2 HC intro pressers.

I realize this doesn't guarantee anything, but I feel good with this guy leading us.
Ready to go. Feel great about the hire.  
RDJR : 1/9/2020 2:35 pm : link
And I am a cynic and a skeptic with this team.
Too serious  
AnskyJK : 1/9/2020 2:35 pm : link
Not sure how relatable he will be to the players
......  
Klaatu : 1/9/2020 2:35 pm : link
Killed it  
V.I.G. : 1/9/2020 2:35 pm : link
Xoxo
BBI rn  
FranknWeezer : 1/9/2020 2:35 pm : link
He's intense, but it's not an act  
mfsd : 1/9/2020 2:36 pm : link
he's thoughtful and well spoken

Loved his comment about not trying to be someone you're not with the players, bc if you do that you lose them.
Very easy to see how he won the team over.  
an_idol_mind : 1/9/2020 2:36 pm : link
It's a long way until he can prove himself on the field, but he made a very impressive introduction.
RE: Very impressive guy.  
The_Boss : 1/9/2020 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14769970 The_Boss said:
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No "mums"; "ya knows?", etc...very direct answers and statements...quite a stark difference from the last 2 HC intro pressers.

I realize this doesn't guarantee anything, but I feel good with this guy leading us.


'ummms"...
finally.  
Gettledogman : 1/9/2020 2:36 pm : link
Joe and Dave will work very well together. They are both looking for the same type of players.
I hope this will be the comprehensive thread  
Jay in Toronto : 1/9/2020 2:36 pm : link
He was impressive.

What impressed me most was the similarity to Parcells' individualized approach.

It is said that Parcells' genius was know what buttons to push on each guy.

Judge seems to get that, plus also put it in terms of individualized teaching.


My first impression was...  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 1/9/2020 2:36 pm : link

We found our coach..
Communicator  
JonC : 1/9/2020 2:36 pm : link
Fundamentals, toughness, teaching, structure, focus, all football. Let's go!
Most impressive guy  
FatHeadTommy : 1/9/2020 2:37 pm : link
I've heard in a while. Clearly a player's coach. Smart and tough. NO BS
I'm as critical of the FO  
madeinstars : 1/9/2020 2:37 pm : link
As they come, but Judge at least knocked the PC out of the park.

In the end it's all going to come down to his staff, the personnel and the results on the field, but at least for now it's nice to have a HC that can actually speak well and be inspiring.
Sold!!  
Amtoft : 1/9/2020 2:37 pm : link
That was probably one of the best PC from a coach I have seen. I was high on him because to me a ST coach doesn't have to put his mark on Off or Def and can run a strong program with great OC and DC to focus on the team as a whole. However after listening to him ... WOW! Yes I am buying in.
Doesn't get  
Josh in the City : 1/9/2020 2:37 pm : link
any better than that.
This is OUR guy  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 1/9/2020 2:37 pm : link
.
WOW!!  
Bleedin Blue : 1/9/2020 2:37 pm : link
Hey Iím sold!!! All the best!!
Rhule who?  
Ryan in Albany : 1/9/2020 2:38 pm : link
Lovin' Coach Joe Judge.

I try not to overreact to pressers but  
bceagle05 : 1/9/2020 2:38 pm : link
holy shit, that was awesome.
I am ready  
Nick in LA : 1/9/2020 2:38 pm : link
to fight my whole fucking office.... LETS GO BITCHES!
I'm struck by one piece of BB influence:  
81_Great_Dane : 1/9/2020 2:38 pm : link
The Pats don't have a single identity; they change their approach depending on the opponent. That flexibility requires a certain kind of player and a certain kind of coaching. JJ said he wants exactly that kind of flexibility: Pass 50 times one week, 10 times the next. That's BB's mentality.

Also struck by him talking about figuring out what each player is good at, what he can do to help you win, instead of looking at what they can't do. That seems like it should be a given but I don't think the Giants have always been good at that. That may be why some of their ex-linemen are performing better around the league than they did in blue.
RE: Communicator  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 1/9/2020 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14769985 JonC said:
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Fundamentals, toughness, teaching, structure, focus, all football. Let's go!


Disciplined football. Something this team hasn't done in years.
1000% behind him  
micky : 1/9/2020 2:38 pm : link
He might be the guy to turn the worm. Genuine, and straight forward. Let s go Judge
Got caught in a meeting  
Tyrion : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
Is there a VOD of it anywhere? Looks like its not up on Giants.com yet and I can't find a Youtube link at the moment.
RE: Communicator  
Gettledogman : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14769985 JonC said:
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Fundamentals, toughness, teaching, structure, focus, all football. Let's go!


That will be our football coach for a long time if given the chance and I think he will get it.
It's fine.  
NoPeanutz : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
Talk is cheap.
I'd watch even if they didn't have a HC.
Show me the W's.

The best thing he showed is that you're not gonna miss Rhule's sermons.
Coach Judge  
Professor Falken : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
drinks your milkshake.
RE: BBI rn  
Bleedin Blue : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14769976 FranknWeezer said:
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LOL!! Love the post!! Yeeeeeehaw!!!
RE: Very easy to see how he won the team over.  
bw in dc : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14769979 an_idol_mind said:
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It's a long way until he can prove himself on the field, but he made a very impressive introduction.


Absolutely. He definitely had the right buzz words Jints Central very likely they wanted to hear when this process started.

Sounds like they were uninterested in specific player development (e.g Jones), strategies, latest concepts to copy cat, etc.

It was all about the CEO persona...
Straight  
LedHeded : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
shooter & a man with a vision & plan. Very impressed
Sounded like Lombardi  
Mendenhall : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
Sounded good but I dont know how the players of today are going to respond to this attitude. TC is out of the league because of it.
"Don't tell me you taught the whole room and that one guy...  
Racer : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
...screwed up. Figure out how to get to him; that's your job".
Klaatu  
bigblue5611_2 : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
or anyone else, do they still play that clip of Gladiator at the stadium before games?

I haven't been to one since the Miracle II...
We are going to start winning.........  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
sooner than most think.
RE: BBI rn  
BobsYourUncle : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14769976 FranknWeezer said:
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LOL... He's a Ball Coach... Love his take on fundamentals, player evaluation. If we can hire some great coordinators, we may have something boys!
The don't  
Amtoft : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
tell me what a player can't do, but what he can do so we can use him to the best of his ability is amazing! You don't think about those things, but man that is so right.
First impression?  
Giantology : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
This guy rhules.
RE: RE: Very impressive guy.  
section125 : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14769980 The_Boss said:
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In comment 14769970 The_Boss said:


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No "mums"; "ya knows?", etc...very direct answers and statements...quite a stark difference from the last 2 HC intro pressers.

I realize this doesn't guarantee anything, but I feel good with this guy leading us.



'ummms"...


Lots of "oks" though...

Very impressive, confident. Yeah he'll do just fine.
Holy Shit! WOW!!!!  
PaulN : 1/9/2020 2:39 pm : link
I am ready for the to start now. It was like listening to the London Philharmonic, music to my ears.
Exceptional communicator. Comes across as really authentic  
Heisenberg : 1/9/2020 2:40 pm : link
X's and O's we will have to see, but I'm way more happy than I was before the presser.
RE: Sounded like Lombardi  
BlackLight : 1/9/2020 2:41 pm : link
In comment 14770024 Mendenhall said:
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Sounded good but I dont know how the players of today are going to respond to this attitude. TC is out of the league because of it.


TC isn't out of the league for that reason.
This is the right guy  
Biteymax22 : 1/9/2020 2:41 pm : link
We haven't had a foundation for years now, and I don't mean talent, I mean organization structure and culture. Every bit of him seems like the right guy to build it.
A real Football Coach  
Chef : 1/9/2020 2:42 pm : link
there is hope...
The one thing that still stands out  
madeinstars : 1/9/2020 2:44 pm : link
Getting the right coordinators is absolutely vital.
Finally  
Joey in VA : 1/9/2020 2:45 pm : link
A coach who is again doing the way we did in the 80s. Fundamentals, toughness, and being flexible schematically, it's exactly why we were so damn good back then. Football is simple, but it's difficult and it's a grind, those who don't embrace it won't win long term and that's why we've fallen flat. The core philosophy was basketball on grass, then some dummy who talked about fumbling too much then mr. plain who said basically nothing. No catch phrases, no gimmicks, just hard work and fundamentals, music to my ears.
It Was A Great PC  
Giants38 : 1/9/2020 2:45 pm : link
Absolutely love hearing that they will game plan for specific weeks. Use the talents of the players on the roster.

Really, that is the most important thing a coach can do. If you don't have 3-4 talent on D, don't play a 3-4. The best thing BB did was changing continuously. You have Gronk and Hernandez - well, you play two TE sets. Your best players are Moss and Welker? You gear your scheme towards getting the ball to wideouts. Look at what they did with their RBs in NE - Burkhead, Michel, White all contributed.

You can tell he learned well under BB and Saban. Now he needs to apply that to the games. That won't come for a while, but at least there is some excitement.
Some thoughts  
Go Terps : 1/9/2020 2:46 pm : link
Obviously a very impressive guy. If he talks like that...clearly and directly...in the locker room and on the sideline we've already got a huge step up on his predecessor.

Favorite parts:

1. Not married to scheme - willing to throw it 50 times one game and 10 the next

2. How you arrived on the team doesn't matter - you have to earn your opportunities

I'm especially interested in #2. That's the area where his "support staff" is more likely to interfere.

The feeling I leave this presser with is: give this guy the keys to the car and get the hell out of his way.
RE: My first impression was...  
Des51 : 1/9/2020 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14769984 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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We found our coach..
Agree, He can really think fast on his feet. He had detailed answers for every question.
My only first impression is that I completely understand why two guys  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/9/2020 2:46 pm : link
like John Mara and Dave Gettleman liked him.

Let's hope it works.
I'm like the  
Photoguy : 1/9/2020 2:47 pm : link
guy in the Geiko commercial....

"Wanna GO, Bro? Let's go!"

"Woooooooooo"

"Wanna go?"

"Woooooooooooooooo"

Impressive  
Watson : 1/9/2020 2:47 pm : link
.
RE: Finally  
Thegratefulhead : 1/9/2020 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14770061 Joey in VA said:
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A coach who is again doing the way we did in the 80s. Fundamentals, toughness, and being flexible schematically, it's exactly why we were so damn good back then. Football is simple, but it's difficult and it's a grind, those who don't embrace it won't win long term and that's why we've fallen flat. The core philosophy was basketball on grass, then some dummy who talked about fumbling too much then mr. plain who said basically nothing. No catch phrases, no gimmicks, just hard work and fundamentals, music to my ears.
I agree with all of that. I feel the same way.
I think  
Photoguy : 1/9/2020 2:49 pm : link
we're in good hands, boys and girls.

Good hands.
RE: Some thoughts  
Thegratefulhead : 1/9/2020 2:49 pm : link
In comment 14770071 Go Terps said:
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Obviously a very impressive guy. If he talks like that...clearly and directly...in the locker room and on the sideline we've already got a huge step up on his predecessor.

Favorite parts:

1. Not married to scheme - willing to throw it 50 times one game and 10 the next

2. How you arrived on the team doesn't matter - you have to earn your opportunities

I'm especially interested in #2. That's the area where his "support staff" is more likely to interfere.

The feeling I leave this presser with is: give this guy the keys to the car and get the hell out of his way.
Me too. Exactly that.
RE: Finally  
Milton : 1/9/2020 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14770061 Joey in VA said:
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A coach who is again doing the way we did in the 80s. Fundamentals, toughness, and being flexible schematically.
But isn't that what every new head coach says? They want a physical team that plays smart, fundamentally sound football, a team that doesn't lose games. I haven't watched the press conference, so maybe I'm missing something about his presentation that makes it more believable coming from him, but his words are the same as every new head coach for whatever team just hired him. Not much different than what Rhule said at his press conference. It's the same buzz words, different suit.
RE: RE: Very easy to see how he won the team over.  
Klaatu : 1/9/2020 2:51 pm : link
In comment 14770020 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14769979 an_idol_mind said:


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It's a long way until he can prove himself on the field, but he made a very impressive introduction.



Absolutely. He definitely had the right buzz words Jints Central very likely they wanted to hear when this process started.

Sounds like they were uninterested in specific player development (e.g Jones), strategies, latest concepts to copy cat, etc.

It was all about the CEO persona...


Yeah, I'm sure none of that was discussed, and of course you can tell that after one press conference.
I don't watch press conferences  
Greg from LI : 1/9/2020 2:53 pm : link
What I'm reading is encouraging.

He's still going to have to work with the same weak roster, though, so my expectations are tempered.
RE: RE: Finally  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/9/2020 2:55 pm : link
In comment 14770099 Milton said:
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In comment 14770061 Joey in VA said:


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A coach who is again doing the way we did in the 80s. Fundamentals, toughness, and being flexible schematically.

But isn't that what every new head coach says? They want a physical team that plays smart, fundamentally sound football, a team that doesn't lose games. I haven't watched the press conference, so maybe I'm missing something about his presentation that makes it more believable coming from him, but his words are the same as every new head coach for whatever team just hired him. Not much different than what Rhule said at his press conference. It's the same buzz words, different suit.


Sure a lot say it. Some coaches/teams can get around it for a game, maybe even a season but it will catch up to you if can't impose your will......playoffs and big games. I think he fully understands this.
The question will be  
giantsfan227B : 1/9/2020 2:55 pm : link
how much house cleaning will occur?

He seems pretty no-nonsense. Wants physicality. Wonder if he will look at all the defensive players that made "business decisions" at the end of the season and ask DG to find them a new home. I could live with that if it affords the NYG an opportunity to get tough, winners in house.
RE: I don't watch press conferences  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/9/2020 2:55 pm : link
In comment 14770110 Greg from LI said:
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What I'm reading is encouraging.

He's still going to have to work with the same weak roster, though, so my expectations are tempered.


The best thing he has going for him is when he walks into the locker room, he's not looking at the 2004 NY Giants or the 2017 NY Giants... rooms with veterans with a whole lot of opinions and egos. This is a really young roster he'll be able to mold in his image.
RE: RE: Very easy to see how he won the team over.  
UConn4523 : 1/9/2020 2:55 pm : link
In comment 14770020 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14769979 an_idol_mind said:


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It's a long way until he can prove himself on the field, but he made a very impressive introduction.



Absolutely. He definitely had the right buzz words Jints Central very likely they wanted to hear when this process started.

Sounds like they were uninterested in specific player development (e.g Jones), strategies, latest concepts to copy cat, etc.

It was all about the CEO persona...


Its impressive that you came away with that reaction.

He said several times he's not going to get into schemes and players. So the takeaway is that they didn't discuss this with him during the interview? That is some sleuthing ability you've got there.
What i tend to be drawn to with coaches is a no bullshit approach.  
BLUATHRT : 1/9/2020 2:56 pm : link
I loved when TC came in, loved Parcells. This guy is cut from the same cloth.
My reaction to this press conference is simple.  
Mr. Bungle : 1/9/2020 2:56 pm : link
At this moment, I feel like I care about the Giants more than I have in several years.

I thought my interest in the sport -- and the Giants -- was in a slow death spiral. And in 20 minutes, this guy turned that around.

It's just a press conference, but that's my honest reaction.
RE: I don't watch press conferences  
jestersdead : 1/9/2020 2:56 pm : link
In comment 14770110 Greg from LI said:
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What I'm reading is encouraging.

He's still going to have to work with the same weak roster, though, so my expectations are tempered.

Why not give it a listen on your commute home?

About roster, letís see what happens in FA and then the draft. Lot of pieces to shuffle around
What I Found Most Interesting...the Personnel Question  
BlueVinnie : 1/9/2020 2:56 pm : link
When asked how the relationship between him Gettleman regarding personnel would work, he didn't really answer the question. He noted that he studies every player in the draft, what he looks for in players, etc. I'm not sure what to make of that. Maybe he misinterpreted the question. I expected to hear a fairly vanilla answer i.e. "Dave will run the draft but we'll discuss needs, blah, blah, blah".

I thought it would be highly unlikely he would have any say in personnel decisions in his first year as a HC but who knows...

Overall I liked it.
Bonus points for the Miss Cleo reference.
I bet  
Fish : 1/9/2020 2:57 pm : link
Janoris Jenkins would like him. lol
The answers were just spot on  
BillyM : 1/9/2020 2:57 pm : link
For one, when asked about his view on Daniel Jones. He didn't give one. Said he will evaluate everyone equally. Great look, everyone on notice.

Two, "often people speak of timing. What is your thoughts on this." Answer, "all i care about is right now, this is my time."

Three, he noted "I am not an OC, a DC, etc. I am the coach, I will manage the team and refine fundamentals.

Four, the comment about punching you in the nose for 60 minutes and "this team will reflect the area, it's fans, NY/NJ." I almost ran through a brick wall.

He is intense, has elements of Bill P and Coughlin. He is no joke. How it translates, we'll see. But players better get ready real quick. Class is in session
We're in  
Photoguy : 1/9/2020 2:58 pm : link
good hands. Nobody's going to outwork him.
RE: RE: Sounded like Lombardi  
Photoguy : 1/9/2020 2:59 pm : link
In comment 14770040 BlackLight said:
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In comment 14770024 Mendenhall said:


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Sounded good but I dont know how the players of today are going to respond to this attitude. TC is out of the league because of it.



TC isn't out of the league for that reason.


My take is that he's not that much older than his players. I don't think he'll have any trouble relating.
My reaction  
Chris684 : 1/9/2020 2:59 pm : link
Compared to Rhule's which seemed like a sermon or like the Miami Heat pep rally when they signed LeBron James.

This was much more genuine. Much less celebration. More like business and like it's time to get back to work.

For me, this was like the scene in Rocky 4 when Tony approaches Rocky and tells him all the BS it will take to beat Drago, but he'll be with him all the way.

I thought I was going to be sentenced  
JKBlue : 1/9/2020 3:00 pm : link
to LIFE without the Giants, and instead, the Judge has given me a pardon.
RE: The answers were just spot on  
Spider56 : 1/9/2020 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14770132 BillyM said:
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For one, when asked about his view on Daniel Jones. He didn't give one. Said he will evaluate everyone equally. Great look, everyone on notice.

Two, "often people speak of timing. What is your thoughts on this." Answer, "all i care about is right now, this is my time."

Three, he noted "I am not an OC, a DC, etc. I am the coach, I will manage the team and refine fundamentals.

Four, the comment about punching you in the nose for 60 minutes and "this team will reflect the area, it's fans, NY/NJ." I almost ran through a brick wall.

He is intense, has elements of Bill P and Coughlin. He is no joke. How it translates, we'll see. But players better get ready real quick. Class is in session


Notice how he didnít mention Connecticut ....
RE: I don't watch press conferences  
Klaatu : 1/9/2020 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14770110 Greg from LI said:
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What I'm reading is encouraging.

He's still going to have to work with the same weak roster, though, so my expectations are tempered.


It didn't sound like it would be "the same weak roster" for very long.
RE: What I Found Most Interesting...the Personnel Question  
Photoguy : 1/9/2020 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14770128 BlueVinnie said:
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When asked how the relationship between him Gettleman regarding personnel would work, he didn't really answer the question. He noted that he studies every player in the draft, what he looks for in players, etc. I'm not sure what to make of that. Maybe he misinterpreted the question. I expected to hear a fairly vanilla answer i.e. "Dave will run the draft but we'll discuss needs, blah, blah, blah".

I thought it would be highly unlikely he would have any say in personnel decisions in his first year as a HC but who knows...

Overall I liked it.
Bonus points for the Miss Cleo reference.



I'm thinking he'll have a great working relationship with Gettleman.
Judge comes across as in command and knowlegeable  
GeofromNJ : 1/9/2020 3:01 pm : link
Unfortunately for the Giants, Freddie Kitchens does not. Let's wait to see who Mr Judge hires for his staff.
RE: RE: Finally  
Thegratefulhead : 1/9/2020 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14770099 Milton said:
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In comment 14770061 Joey in VA said:


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A coach who is again doing the way we did in the 80s. Fundamentals, toughness, and being flexible schematically.

But isn't that what every new head coach says? They want a physical team that plays smart, fundamentally sound football, a team that doesn't lose games. I haven't watched the press conference, so maybe I'm missing something about his presentation that makes it more believable coming from him, but his words are the same as every new head coach for whatever team just hired him. Not much different than what Rhule said at his press conference. It's the same buzz words, different suit.
Milton. Please watch. I went to this thread looking for your view on it.
I have never seen this much consensus  
dune69 : 1/9/2020 3:01 pm : link
on bbi. Mr. Judge is very impressive and will move the needle. Giants football just walked back thru that door. We will be good again...in time.
RE: I'm like the  
The_Boss : 1/9/2020 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14770081 Photoguy said:
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guy in the Geiko commercial....

"Wanna GO, Bro? Let's go!"

"Woooooooooo"

"Wanna go?"

"Woooooooooooooooo"


Thatís the Shurminator from American Pie...true story.
RE: RE: Finally  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/9/2020 3:02 pm : link
In comment 14770099 Milton said:
Quote:
In comment 14770061 Joey in VA said:


Quote:


A coach who is again doing the way we did in the 80s. Fundamentals, toughness, and being flexible schematically.

But isn't that what every new head coach says? They want a physical team that plays smart, fundamentally sound football, a team that doesn't lose games. I haven't watched the press conference, so maybe I'm missing something about his presentation that makes it more believable coming from him, but his words are the same as every new head coach for whatever team just hired him. Not much different than what Rhule said at his press conference. It's the same buzz words, different suit.
I would suggest you watch it. There is a lot in the in-between moments.
Weíre going to win again sooner than you think  
dpinzow : 1/9/2020 3:03 pm : link
This guy is not to be crossed or disobeyed..:all business. Heíll cut guys to make statements if he has to
Very impressed so far for all of the reasons mentioned  
lawguy9801 : 1/9/2020 3:04 pm : link
One thing I also liked was his focus on process and teaching as opposed to getting to a certain amount of wins as a goal. The implication is that if there is an effective coaching/teaching/practice process that is implemented and followed, the wins will come. I love this approach.
Great first impression  
Les in TO : 1/9/2020 3:07 pm : link
Seems like a smart guy who has impeccable character and is close in age to the players he will be leading. Hopefully he will be able to turn this ship around.
RE: Very impressed so far for all of the reasons mentioned  
dpinzow : 1/9/2020 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14770165 lawguy9801 said:
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One thing I also liked was his focus on process and teaching as opposed to getting to a certain amount of wins as a goal. The implication is that if there is an effective coaching/teaching/practice process that is implemented and followed, the wins will come. I love this approach.


Judge is going for a PhD in education IIRC so heís legitimately trained to teach beyond the confines of a football field. He has the psychological aspect of educating people down which is critical
Philosophically...  
FanMan : 1/9/2020 3:08 pm : link
he sounds like a Little "Little Bill".

Let's hope it translates into wins. I feel encouraged for the first time in a long time about this team.
I would have hired him, too.  
cosmicj : 1/9/2020 3:08 pm : link
Command and intelligence. Iím excited fir next season.
I was super impressed  
Boatie Warrant : 1/9/2020 3:08 pm : link
Definitely a great communicator. I'm buying in hioe the new staff and players do to.
RE: RE: I don't watch press conferences  
Greg from LI : 1/9/2020 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14770150 Klaatu said:
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It didn't sound like it would be "the same weak roster" for very long.


Are we getting a new GM too?
I am thrilled  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/9/2020 3:09 pm : link
BWinDC "can live with him" for now, until he falters.


I hope the whiners take a good long break, for fucksakes.
I like his demeanor  
Rjanyg : 1/9/2020 3:09 pm : link
I like his philosophy.
I like the message.

Old school principles. Music to my ears.

Tackling. Ogletree could use some work on that.
RE: RE: Finally  
Joey in VA : 1/9/2020 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14770099 Milton said:
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In comment 14770061 Joey in VA said:


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A coach who is again doing the way we did in the 80s. Fundamentals, toughness, and being flexible schematically.

But isn't that what every new head coach says? They want a physical team that plays smart, fundamentally sound football, a team that doesn't lose games. I haven't watched the press conference, so maybe I'm missing something about his presentation that makes it more believable coming from him, but his words are the same as every new head coach for whatever team just hired him. Not much different than what Rhule said at his press conference. It's the same buzz words, different suit.
He didn't tart it up like McAdoo who talked about "protecting the Duke" and being "heavy handed". Also, you forgot the scheme flexibility angle, we keep going for guys with a certain style, but the style we used in the 80s was the Patriots way now. We beat the opponent with what we have in the best way there is. It may mean throwing it 40 times or running it 40 times, it may be 2 DL or 5 DL, he's being simple and direct about why football is great. He never zeroed in on fumbling like the idiot McAdoo who immediately made everyone think about fumbling with his stupid edict. He said fundamentals, didn't name go in on specific players and kept it team focused and work focused.
My first impression is that bbi is in full-on manic mode.  
Mad Mike : 1/9/2020 3:11 pm : link
Hopefully Judge will be able to minimize the swing back to depressive.
RE: I am ready  
shocktheworld : 1/9/2020 3:16 pm : link
In comment 14770007 Nick in LA said:
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to fight my whole fucking office.... LETS GO BITCHES!


Holy shit... I've never laughed so hard in all my years on this site... Fucking hilarious comment! I feel the same way surrounded by cowboy fans here in TX!

If Joe Judge makes is wanna fight our office, imagine how the actual players are going to be....
Here's a video I found  
BigBlue in Keys : 1/9/2020 3:16 pm : link
Would love if anyone had the full press conference
Judge introduction - ( New Window )
RE: I bet  
Go Terps : 1/9/2020 3:16 pm : link
In comment 14770130 Fish said:
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Janoris Jenkins would like him. lol


I was thinking something like this, too.

I'd expect some attrition on the roster. Not all of these guys are going to like him. DeAndre Baker was the first guy I thought of.
I never felt the need to watch a PC  
Boatie Warrant : 1/9/2020 3:17 pm : link
This time I just felt the need. I left work early for several reasons and watching this PC was one of them. I am glad I did. Joe Judge commanded that room like a true General.

I have been in the room with many Generals when in service and only one ever impressed me greatly(GEN Vincent Brooks). Coach Judge just gave me a similar feeling with his PC. Feeling optimistic
What struck me most: "As HC during the game  
ColHowPepper : 1/9/2020 3:17 pm : link
I'm not going to have my face stuck in the offensive play book, the defensive or ST playbook. My focus will be on whether my players are focusing on fundamentals, and that the team has situational awareness."
Close to that.

Re. the draft: did he say he's going to prepare so he's familiar with every player on the team's board?
There's a new sheriff in town  
gtt350 : 1/9/2020 3:20 pm : link
"Oh boy is this great" Flounder
This is the first time since the offseason after Super Bowl XLVI  
Kyle_ : 1/9/2020 3:21 pm : link
that I have believed the organization is moving us in the right direction, based on solid logic and with an eye towards nailing the processes to sustain success, rather than flawed process and occasionally getting a good result despite it all and never fucking improving because end results dictated evaluation.

I have forgotten what that feels like.

I remain supremely cautious in my optimism.
Was he asked about his take  
Big Al : 1/9/2020 3:22 pm : link
on injuries?
RE: What struck me most:  
bronxct1 : 1/9/2020 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14770230 ColHowPepper said:
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I'm not going to have my face stuck in the offensive play book, the defensive or ST playbook. My focus will be on whether my players are focusing on fundamentals, and that the team has situational awareness."
Close to that.

Re. the draft: did he say he's going to prepare so he's familiar with every player on the team's board?


He said that when he was with the Patriots he was familiar with EVERY player in the draft so he knew if they could be used one ST.
RE: RE: RE: I don't watch press conferences  
Klaatu : 1/9/2020 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14770190 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14770150 Klaatu said:


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It didn't sound like it would be "the same weak roster" for very long.



Are we getting a new GM too?


No, but he made it clear that no one is on "scholarship," among other things. The one takeaway I got after listening to him was "playtime is over." Very similar to the vibe I got with Coughlin after he took over for Fassel. I think Judge is going to more involved with personnel decisions than I initially thought he'd be.

I suggest you listen to the PC when you can, or at least read the transcript when Eric posts it (but that really won't do it justice, no pun intended).
Watched his opening statement  
section125 : 1/9/2020 3:28 pm : link
since i missed most of the presser...

I could feel the lineman on both sides of the ball smiling from ear to ear.
Given that he is trying to create a Pats'-like chameleon team,  
81_Great_Dane : 1/9/2020 3:28 pm : link
that can change its scheme week-to-week, and that such a team requires a particular kind of player (versatile, flexible, quick learner), it seems likely that JJ will have A LOT of input on ranking prospects for the draft board, even if he's not making the actual picks.
My favorite part about the entire press conference?  
jlukes : 1/9/2020 3:30 pm : link
He seemed genuine. 100% genuine, comfortable in his own skin, and the moment wasn't too big for him.
Absolutely great...  
Stev7 : 1/9/2020 3:30 pm : link
Very excited about this coach.
RE: RE: I bet  
BillKo : 1/9/2020 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14770226 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14770130 Fish said:


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Janoris Jenkins would like him. lol



I was thinking something like this, too.

I'd expect some attrition on the roster. Not all of these guys are going to like him. DeAndre Baker was the first guy I thought of.


DeAndre Baker might not like him.

But he will respect him.

And Judge - if he's going to be the coach we think - will get Baker to buy in.
He appears  
Pete in MD : 1/9/2020 3:38 pm : link
clear and focused, has a mantra, but also threw in a few things that made him seem likable (Miss Cleo, making a sandwich, Empire State Building, son is amateur GM, etc.) I think all can be good traits for a coach and the latter will hopefully play well with the media.
RE: Not to rain  
Bramton1 : 1/9/2020 3:38 pm : link
In comment 13807714 Eric from BBI said:

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on anyone's parade - and I'm not an anti-Shumur guy - but many of us were saying the same types of things two years ago when McAdoo was announced.

Proof is in the product. The good news is that Shurmur has a more established track record than McAdoo and seems more mature.

But let's not get too giddy just yet.


The was a comment by Eric from two years ago, when Shurmur was introduced. I know we're all psyched. But the proof is still in the product.
.  
rocco8112 : 1/9/2020 3:39 pm : link
A press conference never won anything.

But man, that was a damn good intro conference. I am excited about this guy.
I didn't get to hear/see it but  
giantsFC : 1/9/2020 3:39 pm : link
It sounds like majority of Giants fans really liked him.

Something that hasn't happened in a long time.

Hopefully good vibes. I personally don't mind the hire.
RE: RE: RE: I bet  
crick n NC : 1/9/2020 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14770283 BillKo said:
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In comment 14770226 Go Terps said:


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In comment 14770130 Fish said:


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Janoris Jenkins would like him. lol



I was thinking something like this, too.

I'd expect some attrition on the roster. Not all of these guys are going to like him. DeAndre Baker was the first guy I thought of.



DeAndre Baker might not like him.

But he will respect him.

And Judge - if he's going to be the coach we think - will get Baker to buy in.


Bill, Judge can be a good coach even if players like Baker don't buy in. In fact some players will chose to not buy in because of lack of trust and or they don't want to buy in to his philosophy. It certainly happens.
For the first  
Robert : 1/9/2020 3:40 pm : link
time in years I am sooooo freaking in. I get the feeling the players are going to feel it's completely unacceptable to let the game slip away, not just for their coach, but themselves. It feels like training camp is a million years away right now.
great  
mdc1 : 1/9/2020 3:40 pm : link
I hope the oganization and talent selection areas of the org do not fail him. Lastly, hopefully the players selected are here to win championships and not just collect big paychecks and promote themselves on social media.

RE: .  
mfsd : 1/9/2020 3:41 pm : link
In comment 14770295 rocco8112 said:
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A press conference never won anything.

But man, that was a damn good intro conference. I am excited about this guy.


+1

To add to my post  
crick n NC : 1/9/2020 3:42 pm : link
One of the major parts of Judge's job will be to find anyone not willing to buy in. Those players certainly won't just come out and admit it. It'll take some investigative work.
Some players may definitely have a problem with him.  
an_idol_mind : 1/9/2020 3:42 pm : link
If the team has a rough season, I wouldn't be surprised to hear anonymous reports trashing him a la Coughlin.
RE: I don't watch press conferences  
shocktheworld : 1/9/2020 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14770110 Greg from LI said:
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What I'm reading is encouraging.

He's still going to have to work with the same weak roster, though, so my expectations are tempered.


You don't watch press conferences? Ummmmm ok....
The buying in  
uther99 : 1/9/2020 3:46 pm : link
concept works great when you're Bellichek. Every team wants this, but none achieve it like the Pats. We will need to wait and see
hey he's going to teach tackling now there's a concept  
gtt350 : 1/9/2020 3:46 pm : link
for us
I loved the hire before the press conference  
arniefez : 1/9/2020 3:48 pm : link
Now? It feels like our long nightmare might be over. He knows the questions, he knows what it expected, the plan he discussed is one that a lot of us have been begging for.

Now we wait and hope he can pull it off.
RE: Some players may definitely have a problem with him.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/9/2020 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14770308 an_idol_mind said:
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If the team has a rough season, I wouldn't be surprised to hear anonymous reports trashing him a la Coughlin.


I doubt it. There are very few remaining vets in the room and most of those guys will be on the way out too. That's the best thing Judge has going for him... the youth of the roster.

Coughlin took over a group with Pro Bowlers, All Pros, and guys who'd been to a Super Bowl.
Archive this love fest  
DCOrange : 1/9/2020 3:53 pm : link
Bring it back after game 7.
RE: There's a new sheriff in town  
Poktown Pete : 1/9/2020 3:54 pm : link
In comment 14770246 gtt350 said:
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"Oh boy is this great" Flounder

Lol!

Am impressed with the PC. I'm thinking the Giant brain trust may deserve props soon. I'll gladly take back my flying monkees comment. Cool Aid for everyone!
RE: RE: I don't watch press conferences  
Greg from LI : 1/9/2020 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14770313 shocktheworld said:
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You don't watch press conferences? Ummmmm ok....


Because they're meaningless. Has zero to do with what will actually happen on the field. They also tend to be overly long, boring, repetitive, and a platform for grandstanding reporters.
Well you knew there had to be at least  
pjcas18 : 1/9/2020 3:59 pm : link
one negative reaction:

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bomani
@bomani_jones
this doesnít sound like itís gonna go well.

why? because itís fake. the rules limit how much any coach can do this. faking for media may seem cute, but trying to show his players how tough he is will get him fired in two years.


in response to:
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Kimberly Jones
@KimJonesSports
∑ 1h
Joe Judge says #NYG will reflect the region: blue-collar, hard work, old school, physical. Says team will practice in pads & practice live tackling.

RE: RE: RE: I don't watch press conferences  
UConn4523 : 1/9/2020 4:06 pm : link
In comment 14770356 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14770313 shocktheworld said:


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You don't watch press conferences? Ummmmm ok....



Because they're meaningless. Has zero to do with what will actually happen on the field. They also tend to be overly long, boring, repetitive, and a platform for grandstanding reporters.


You have to admit, its funny that you are spending time on the thread about a press conference.

I know its your schtick but try living a little. There's nothing wrong with tuning in and listening to what the new HC has to say. It doesn't have to mean a whole lot to you personally, but I find it strange that you don't care about what he has to say yet mock Mara or DG for what they say.

Its ok to think positively, no one will get hurt.
He's on with  
Ceez2.0 : 1/9/2020 4:07 pm : link
Joe and Evan right now.
I can't help but be incredibly  
GiantFanInTX : 1/9/2020 4:08 pm : link
impressed with Judge. I'm very impressed with how he carries himself. You just feel a completely different vibe than you did with McAdoo or Shurmur. I never liked the Shurmur hire. I wasn't crazy about McAdoo either. This is looking like a really good gamble.
RE: Well you knew there had to be at least  
giantsFC : 1/9/2020 4:10 pm : link
In comment 14770362 pjcas18 said:
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one negative reaction:



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bomani
@bomani_jones
this doesnít sound like itís gonna go well.

why? because itís fake. the rules limit how much any coach can do this. faking for media may seem cute, but trying to show his players how tough he is will get him fired in two years.



in response to:


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Kimberly Jones
@KimJonesSports
∑ 1h
Joe Judge says #NYG will reflect the region: blue-collar, hard work, old school, physical. Says team will practice in pads & practice live tackling.



I just listened to it. Unfortunately I can see how it can go wrong and fast. He does seem a bit over aggressive. Will he be willing to accept the modern pro player and their social norms?

He is literally Dave Gettleman as a coach. Can he relate to the pop culture of many athletes? Going out and saying Blue Collar like NYC can be interpreted as middle age white male in these times. slight red flag there.

RE: I'm struck by one piece of BB influence:  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2020 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14770009 81_Great_Dane said:
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The Pats don't have a single identity; they change their approach depending on the opponent. That flexibility requires a certain kind of player and a certain kind of coaching. JJ said he wants exactly that kind of flexibility: Pass 50 times one week, 10 times the next. That's BB's mentality.

Also struck by him talking about figuring out what each player is good at, what he can do to help you win, instead of looking at what they can't do. That seems like it should be a given but I don't think the Giants have always been good at that. That may be why some of their ex-linemen are performing better around the league than they did in blue.


I don't think it's been the case here for quite some time. The Gilbride passing offense had demanding scheme requirements, and they had one identity. McAdoo ran the same Slants/Flats WCO passing concepts as McCarthy. Modernized in some ways, but still consistent week to week

Not sticking to one "scheme" is modern football. The league is too good to try to compete with the same tendencies week after the week. The better you are at different approaches, the harder you are to defend.
I can get the gist of it by reading what people are saying  
Greg from LI : 1/9/2020 4:12 pm : link
Honestly, the times I've watched press conferences, I get bored out of my mind within about 30 seconds and turn them off.

The only exception to that is Tony Bennett, because a)I adore that man b)he's always brutally honest. In a nice way, but he never sugarcoats anything c)he never really gives cliched, canned answers.
RE: RE: RE: I don't watch press conferences  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/9/2020 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14770356 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14770313 shocktheworld said:


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You don't watch press conferences? Ummmmm ok....



Because they're meaningless. Has zero to do with what will actually happen on the field. They also tend to be overly long, boring, repetitive, and a platform for grandstanding reporters.


I know you are overly grumpy, but at least be consistent. Having a cow about the owners and GM not addressing the team can't logically sit next to calling press conferences meaningless.

But maybe the pain from the stick breaking in your ass hurt too much that day.
RE: RE: Well you knew there had to be at least  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2020 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14770391 giantsFC said:
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bomani
@bomani_jones
this doesnít sound like itís gonna go well.

why? because itís fake. the rules limit how much any coach can do this. faking for media may seem cute, but trying to show his players how tough he is will get him fired in two years.



in response to:


Quote:


Kimberly Jones
@KimJonesSports
∑ 1h
Joe Judge says #NYG will reflect the region: blue-collar, hard work, old school, physical. Says team will practice in pads & practice live tackling.





I just listened to it. Unfortunately I can see how it can go wrong and fast. He does seem a bit over aggressive. Will he be willing to accept the modern pro player and their social norms?

He is literally Dave Gettleman as a coach. Can he relate to the pop culture of many athletes? Going out and saying Blue Collar like NYC can be interpreted as middle age white male in these times. slight red flag there.


I feel like it's worth listening to again. He spent a very large portion of his speaking time explaining how you have to tailor your coaching and teaching to the specific person you're working with, and understanding that everyone learns differently.
RE: I can get the gist of it by reading what people are saying  
UConn4523 : 1/9/2020 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14770396 Greg from LI said:
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Honestly, the times I've watched press conferences, I get bored out of my mind within about 30 seconds and turn them off.

The only exception to that is Tony Bennett, because a)I adore that man b)he's always brutally honest. In a nice way, but he never sugarcoats anything c)he never really gives cliched, canned answers.


Just do it! I don't disagree with you on principle but I came away extremely impressed. He's incredibly relatable and 100% clear on his objectives or goals. He shook the reporters, IMO. Its worth watching it for that alone.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I don't watch press conferences  
GiantGiantsFan : 1/9/2020 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14770397 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14770356 Greg from LI said:


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In comment 14770313 shocktheworld said:


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You don't watch press conferences? Ummmmm ok....



Because they're meaningless. Has zero to do with what will actually happen on the field. They also tend to be overly long, boring, repetitive, and a platform for grandstanding reporters.



I know you are overly grumpy, but at least be consistent. Having a cow about the owners and GM not addressing the team can't logically sit next to calling press conferences meaningless.

But maybe the pain from the stick breaking in your ass hurt too much that day.


Lol
RE: RE: Well you knew there had to be at least  
UConn4523 : 1/9/2020 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14770391 giantsFC said:
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bomani
@bomani_jones
this doesnít sound like itís gonna go well.

why? because itís fake. the rules limit how much any coach can do this. faking for media may seem cute, but trying to show his players how tough he is will get him fired in two years.



in response to:


Quote:


Kimberly Jones
@KimJonesSports
∑ 1h
Joe Judge says #NYG will reflect the region: blue-collar, hard work, old school, physical. Says team will practice in pads & practice live tackling.





I just listened to it. Unfortunately I can see how it can go wrong and fast. He does seem a bit over aggressive. Will he be willing to accept the modern pro player and their social norms?

He is literally Dave Gettleman as a coach. Can he relate to the pop culture of many athletes? Going out and saying Blue Collar like NYC can be interpreted as middle age white male in these times. slight red flag there.


Do you think Belichick and Saban relate to pop culture? Come on man. If that's what it take we could have just hired Gronk.

I don't see him as DG at all. From a speaking standpoint they are polar opposites. Judge's entire press conference was about teaching - the what, the how and the why. DG isn't that, he's a talent evaluator.

I can't believe this can be chalked up as a "slight red flag", such an odd take.
first impression  
bc4life : 1/9/2020 4:17 pm : link
this was his introduction, by means of a press conference, as Head Coach of the NY Giants- that's what this was. that's all this was about.

Do not think he could have handled it better.
RE: Very impressive guy.  
ron mexico : 1/9/2020 4:18 pm : link
In comment 14769970 The_Boss said:
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No "mums"; "ya knows?", etc...very direct answers and statements...quite a stark difference from the last 2 HC intro pressers.

I realize this doesn't guarantee anything, but I feel good with this guy leading us.


I thought the same thing. Had a good answer right away on all questions. Clearly he is quick on his feet. I was impressed.
I thought he was impressive  
David B. : 1/9/2020 4:19 pm : link
as fuck.

Not directly from the Parcells/Coughlin TREE, but definitely from the Parcells/Coughlin SCHOOL.

Smashmouth
Blue collar
Physical
Ultra-prepared
Accountable

Contact drills. Teaching how to fucking TACKLE! God knows the Giants D needs that.
Play to a guy's strength. Don't tell me what he can't do. Tell me what he CAN do, and use that! Hello Deandre Baker!

Also loved that he said the Giants will adopt the Belichick approach of adjusting their strengths to the opponents weaknesses on a week-to-week basis. Sometimes the'll throw the ball 40 times, sometimes it will be 10 times with a heavy run game.

He sounds very confident in his beliefs and his approach without being cocky about it. The word that comes to mind is INTENSE! I see why management and ownership was very impressed.

(So far), he sounds extremely impressive to me.
He's on Joe and Evan right now  
montanagiant : 1/9/2020 4:19 pm : link
And he is killing it.
First impression  
OBJRoyal : 1/9/2020 4:19 pm : link
Hard not to like the guy! Wants to build a program and have EVERYONE in the building buy in.

Great hire so far!!
Had to wonder if the question about kindergarten at the end  
ron mexico : 1/9/2020 4:20 pm : link
Was a plant? Good way to end the conference either way.
I see that some people  
River Mike : 1/9/2020 4:20 pm : link
were looking for a link to the PC and I didn't see if any had been provided. Heres one to his opening remarks, and Ö. wow!
link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Well you knew there had to be at least  
BigBlueShock : 1/9/2020 4:21 pm : link
In comment 14770391 giantsFC said:
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one negative reaction:



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bomani
@bomani_jones
this doesnít sound like itís gonna go well.

why? because itís fake. the rules limit how much any coach can do this. faking for media may seem cute, but trying to show his players how tough he is will get him fired in two years.



in response to:


Quote:


Kimberly Jones
@KimJonesSports
∑ 1h
Joe Judge says #NYG will reflect the region: blue-collar, hard work, old school, physical. Says team will practice in pads & practice live tackling.





I just listened to it. Unfortunately I can see how it can go wrong and fast. He does seem a bit over aggressive. Will he be willing to accept the modern pro player and their social norms?

He is literally Dave Gettleman as a coach. Can he relate to the pop culture of many athletes? Going out and saying Blue Collar like NYC can be interpreted as middle age white male in these times. slight red flag there.

The guy is 38 years old. There are players in the league older than him. Heís been coaching these ďmodern pro playersĒ and has Super Bowl rings from his time with these players. How the hell do you come to the conclusion a 38 year old is going to have an issue dealing with modern players? Itís all he knows. He wasnít around in the old days...
wow, wrong one!  
River Mike : 1/9/2020 4:22 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Well you knew there had to be at least  
giantsFC : 1/9/2020 4:23 pm : link
In comment 14770401 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14770391 giantsFC said:


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I just listened to it. Unfortunately I can see how it can go wrong and fast. He does seem a bit over aggressive. Will he be willing to accept the modern pro player and their social norms?

He is literally Dave Gettleman as a coach. Can he relate to the pop culture of many athletes? Going out and saying Blue Collar like NYC can be interpreted as middle age white male in these times. slight red flag there.




I feel like it's worth listening to again. He spent a very large portion of his speaking time explaining how you have to tailor your coaching and teaching to the specific person you're working with, and understanding that everyone learns differently.


I can't say I'ts not refreshing to hear this and I'm ok with his as a fan. I just worry in these modern times.
RE: I am thrilled  
bw in dc : 1/9/2020 4:23 pm : link
In comment 14770191 BlueLou'sBack said:
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BWinDC "can live with him" for now, until he falters.


I hope the whiners take a good long break, for fucksakes.


Because I'm curious today, I noticed this is the second or third time you've referenced this. I'm guessing it comes from the below exchange I had with japanhead yesterday?

japanhead asked me:

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there are many quality NFL coaches who didn't have prior HC experience. harbaugh, vrabel, shanahan, tomlin.. only a few had been HCs before.

you'd have preferred mccarthy? maybe garrett?


I said:

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I think I can live with Judge. I'm trying to read as much as possible to understand his background. But he's got an enormous task in front of him in the league's biggest market with a team that's been a train wreck...


It seems that you have some ax to grind here, so I'm not sure why that is bothersome. japanhead asked me if I would have preferred McCarthy or Garrett. And I responded that I can live with Judge. Clearly implying I like Judge > McCarthy and Garrett.

So enlighten me why you keep referencing that as some sort of insult against Judge? Or whatever you are trying to say...

I've said all along the candidate I didn't want was Rhule. I'm glad Tepper gave him an offer he couldn't refuse. The Giants are better off for it...



try  
River Mike : 1/9/2020 4:24 pm : link
this
link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: Well you knew there had to be at least  
giantsFC : 1/9/2020 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14770430 BigBlueShock said:
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one negative reaction:



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bomani
@bomani_jones
this doesnít sound like itís gonna go well.

why? because itís fake. the rules limit how much any coach can do this. faking for media may seem cute, but trying to show his players how tough he is will get him fired in two years.



in response to:


Quote:


Kimberly Jones
@KimJonesSports
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Joe Judge says #NYG will reflect the region: blue-collar, hard work, old school, physical. Says team will practice in pads & practice live tackling.





I just listened to it. Unfortunately I can see how it can go wrong and fast. He does seem a bit over aggressive. Will he be willing to accept the modern pro player and their social norms?

He is literally Dave Gettleman as a coach. Can he relate to the pop culture of many athletes? Going out and saying Blue Collar like NYC can be interpreted as middle age white male in these times. slight red flag there.



The guy is 38 years old. There are players in the league older than him. Heís been coaching these ďmodern pro playersĒ and has Super Bowl rings from his time with these players. How the hell do you come to the conclusion a 38 year old is going to have an issue dealing with modern players? Itís all he knows. He wasnít around in the old days...


Because, ya know. Many young coordinators talk the talk but then haven't learned how to adapt when they get the big show? And not many NFL players are Blue collar anymore...

RE: He's on with  
Bill in UT : 1/9/2020 4:26 pm : link
In comment 14770384 Ceez2.0 said:
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Joe and Evan right now.


That sucks. He should be putting together his staff before someone else hires them. Only somewhat kidding.
My initial impressions on Judge  
nyjuggernaut2 : 1/9/2020 4:32 pm : link
after listening to his press conference...

- I can see why Gettleman likes him, he sounds like a younger version of himself in his philosophies of running the ball/stopping the run.

- sounds very Coughlin/Parcells-esque in talking about playing old school, smash mouth football. Sounds like the Giants of the 80ís. Weíll see if they mindset works in todayís NFL 🙏

- Giants wanted a guy who could lead the team and command the room, a CEO type guy. They definitely got what they were looking for.

He can talk to talk, now letís hope he can walk the walk
RE: RE: RE: RE: I don't watch press conferences  
Greg from LI : 1/9/2020 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14770397 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I know you are overly grumpy, but at least be consistent. Having a cow about the owners and GM not addressing the team can't logically sit next to calling press conferences meaningless.


It ain't me, babe. You've got the wrong grump. I wasn't one of the people harping on a lack of press conferences by Mara and Gettleman. Don't care about 'em, as I've said.

I didn't watch theirs either, if it makes you feel any better, but I did laugh at the descriptiongs of them.
He absolutely killed it.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/9/2020 4:33 pm : link
Holy shit.
RE: My initial impressions on Judge  
giantsFC : 1/9/2020 4:40 pm : link
In comment 14770473 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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after listening to his press conference...

- I can see why Gettleman likes him, he sounds like a younger version of himself in his philosophies of running the ball/stopping the run.

- sounds very Coughlin/Parcells-esque in talking about playing old school, smash mouth football. Sounds like the Giants of the 80ís. Weíll see if they mindset works in todayís NFL 🙏

- Giants wanted a guy who could lead the team and command the room, a CEO type guy. They definitely got what they were looking for.

He can talk to talk, now letís hope he can walk the walk


well said! all of this.
There was something in there for everyone  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2020 4:42 pm : link
People who just want to hear "toughness" and "smashmouth" got their fill.


"find what a player can do and use that" was refreshing to hear to me.

Some have compared him to TC which is bothersome to me.  
RDJR : 1/9/2020 4:43 pm : link
He is not TC. He is much more likable and doesn't come across as militant or "a general". He has that "it" factor that must have jumped out at JM and DG in his interview. He is stern and direct, but you can't help but like him. Maybe it's his youth, but there is something about him and others that possess that leadership gene that is impossible to describe.

TC didn't have that. TC was a drill sergeant which can be learned and taught. JJ's leadership skills are raw and organic, from the heart. I know it was only one press conference, but those that have played a lot of organized sports and worked in high pressure, high profile environments will recognize what I am talking about. It's rare and I'm glad he's here.
I only wish  
JINTin Adirondacks : 1/9/2020 4:45 pm : link
Ownership had sent him on BBI before the radio circuit ..to clean up all the precious thats been cluttering this place
He's a football man through and through. He'll do well  
Ira : 1/9/2020 4:47 pm : link
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Must be a teacher first and foremost  
Maijay : 1/9/2020 4:47 pm : link
X's and O's are important but his reference to individual learning styles was truly impressive. One of my biggest beefs was Becther's lack of teaching ability to help, particularly, the younger players absorb his defensive schemes. An excellent coach is by definition an excellent teacher. You must be able to convey and implement your scheme or plan to make your team a winner.
Jus saw it  
Nine-Tails : 1/9/2020 5:59 pm : link
He did great. This guy is a professional and you could see that heís going to follow through on what he says. I got some coughlin/Herman Boone vibes on his no nonsense attitude. I like his approach to filling out the staff and attention to detail. Gettleman may have final say, but Judge will have a strong voice
RE: Some have compared him to TC which is bothersome to me.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/9/2020 6:05 pm : link
In comment 14770499 RDJR said:
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He is not TC. He is much more likable and doesn't come across as militant or "a general". He has that "it" factor that must have jumped out at JM and DG in his interview. He is stern and direct, but you can't help but like him. Maybe it's his youth, but there is something about him and others that possess that leadership gene that is impossible to describe.

TC didn't have that. TC was a drill sergeant which can be learned and taught. JJ's leadership skills are raw and organic, from the heart. I know it was only one press conference, but those that have played a lot of organized sports and worked in high pressure, high profile environments will recognize what I am talking about. It's rare and I'm glad he's here.


TC had a resume as a successful college coach and a successful NFL coach. Until Judge puts the words into action and most importantly, results, they're just that. Words.
One word:  
Anakim : 1/9/2020 6:28 pm : link
Wow.


Just wow. Guy is INCREDIBLY impressive
RE: Some have compared him to TC which is bothersome to me.  
SomeFan : 1/9/2020 6:33 pm : link
In comment 14770499 RDJR said:
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He is not TC. He is much more likable and doesn't come across as militant or "a general". He has that "it" factor that must have jumped out at JM and DG in his interview. He is stern and direct, but you can't help but like him. Maybe it's his youth, but there is something about him and others that possess that leadership gene that is impossible to describe.

TC didn't have that. TC was a drill sergeant which can be learned and taught. JJ's leadership skills are raw and organic, from the heart. I know it was only one press conference, but those that have played a lot of organized sports and worked in high pressure, high profile environments will recognize what I am talking about. It's rare and I'm glad he's here.


Please, your TC take is complete bullshit pulled out of your ass.
RE: Must be a teacher first and foremost  
Chocco : 1/9/2020 9:48 pm : link
In comment 14770503 Maijay said:
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X's and O's are important but his reference to individual learning styles was truly impressive. One of my biggest beefs was Becther's lack of teaching ability to help, particularly, the younger players absorb his defensive schemes. An excellent coach is by definition an excellent teacher. You must be able to convey and implement your scheme or plan to make your team a winner.

The thing that stuck out to me was when he talked about figuring bout how each player learns and teaching him that way. I will take the manager/coach that works with guys to learn how to make them better over the guy that dictates how they need to learn every time.
Letís go!  
trueblueinpw : 1/9/2020 10:09 pm : link
I like him. If you watched the press conference and you came away not liking this hire then Iím not sure what to say. Heís young, but seems mature and poised and ready to lead the New York Football Giants. If there was any doubt about who was in charge in that room, I didnít see it. He anticipated and answered the most important and difficult questions before they were even asked. He was honest and authentic and intelligent.

I watched McCarthy and Rhule and Rivera and itís pretty clear to me we got the best press conference. Now that wonít me anything if the Judge doesnít win and those other guys do. But I like this guy. No, thatís not correct, I love this guy!

Iíve been as critical as anyone toward Mara Tisch and Getty. Today, with this hire, Iím more than happy to be pleased as punch. Good job Mara Tisch. Good job Getty.

Letís go Big Blue!
very impressed  
xtian : 1/9/2020 11:05 pm : link
very excited! haven't felt this good since parcells--serviously!
Duggan wrote a column  
santacruzom : 1/10/2020 1:43 am : link
With a headline stating Judge's PC was reminiscent of Coughlin's. Haven't read the article yet but I don't see it that way. From what I remember, Coughlin laid it on thick about playing through injury and seemed to put the onus on the players doing their job. Judge out much more of an onus on the coaches being effective teachers.

RE: Duggan wrote a column  
mfsd : 1/10/2020 1:45 am : link
In comment 14771063 santacruzom said:
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With a headline stating Judge's PC was reminiscent of Coughlin's. Haven't read the article yet but I don't see it that way. From what I remember, Coughlin laid it on thick about playing through injury and seemed to put the onus on the players doing their job. Judge out much more of an onus on the coaches being effective teachers.


I also disagree with the Coughlin comparison. My immediate reaction was he seems more like Cowher in his hey day
RE: Letís go!  
montanagiant : 1/10/2020 2:07 am : link
In comment 14770931 trueblueinpw said:
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I like him. If you watched the press conference and you came away not liking this hire then Iím not sure what to say. Heís young, but seems mature and poised and ready to lead the New York Football Giants. If there was any doubt about who was in charge in that room, I didnít see it. He anticipated and answered the most important and difficult questions before they were even asked. He was honest and authentic and intelligent.

I watched McCarthy and Rhule and Rivera and itís pretty clear to me we got the best press conference. Now that wonít me anything if the Judge doesnít win and those other guys do. But I like this guy. No, thatís not correct, I love this guy!

Iíve been as critical as anyone toward Mara Tisch and Getty. Today, with this hire, Iím more than happy to be pleased as punch. Good job Mara Tisch. Good job Getty.

Letís go Big Blue!

Agree with this 100%
cautiously optimistic  
BigBlueCane : 1/10/2020 4:45 am : link
have to wait and see his staff and how the things work out personnel wise.
Love the emphasis on the following:  
RobCarpenter : 1/10/2020 7:34 am : link
Communication
Collaboration
Consistency
Confidence

On this last one, this is a man that understands that for players to believe in you that you have to be confident. Judge is one of those people who was born to lead.

I just hope fans have some patience and donít panic if the team starts 0-2.

RE: Duggan wrote a column  
an_idol_mind : 1/10/2020 7:50 am : link
In comment 14771063 santacruzom said:
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With a headline stating Judge's PC was reminiscent of Coughlin's. Haven't read the article yet but I don't see it that way. From what I remember, Coughlin laid it on thick about playing through injury and seemed to put the onus on the players doing their job. Judge out much more of an onus on the coaches being effective teachers.


I thought his opening statement was very Coughlin-esque. Somebody in the room even joked that former players were having flashbacks.
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