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Phil Snow Named Panthers DC

FatMan in Charlotte : 1/9/2020 10:33 pm
Rhule said he hasn't won a game without Phil Snow's help and wants to keep it that way.

Snow will come from stints at Temple and Baylor with Rhule

as i said  
BleedBlue : 1/9/2020 10:37 pm : link
when we were chatting rhule, snow would be his DC, he wants "his" guys, its what kept him away from Jets, the jets didnt trust snow, they wanted williams
They just.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/9/2020 10:41 pm : link
said Snow is the uncle of Dustin Pedroia.

Now I have a legitimate reason to dislike him:)
This was my big concern with Rhule  
PatersonPlank : 1/9/2020 10:43 pm : link
His coordinator selections
Snow runs a 3-3-5 defense  
Rjanyg : 1/9/2020 10:43 pm : link
Part of the reason I wanted Rhule is because I think Snows defense might be great. Its a modern day 3-4.
RE: They just.  
robbieballs2003 : 1/9/2020 10:47 pm : link
In comment 14770975 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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said Snow is the uncle of Dustin Pedroia.

Now I have a legitimate reason to dislike him:)


And he never saw Star Wars not knows who Yoda is.
Nor  
robbieballs2003 : 1/9/2020 10:48 pm : link
Not not
RE: This was my big concern with Rhule  
AcesUp : 1/9/2020 10:48 pm : link
In comment 14770977 PatersonPlank said:
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His coordinator selections


This was the negative with him. He has a better resume than Judge and was just as impressive in his presser imo (both crushed it). However, it looks like hes going to be loyal to a staff that doesnt have strong NFL experience. Judge may bring in the stronger coaching staff.
No surprise here...  
Torrag : 1/9/2020 11:05 pm : link
he's been Rhule's DC for literally ever game he's been a head coach. They've had a lot of success together.
Oh.  
MtDizzle : 1/9/2020 11:17 pm : link
I guess hes the next Buddy Ryan.
Snow  
dslayton86 : 1/10/2020 2:18 am : link
was nominated for College Assistant of the Year two times while at Temple, and turned around a bad Baylor defense to be at the top of the Big 12 this year (Big 12 I know). So I wouldn't scoff at him just yet. Obviously loved by Rhule and will execute Rhule's plan with the chemistry they have. I wouldn't scoff at him just yet.
May, Giants fans have a lot of comparing to do the next few years  
ZogZerg : 1/10/2020 6:23 am : link
Panther D to Giants D
Panthers record to Giants record
Redskins record to Giants record
Redskins QB to Giants QB
the list goes on....
Expected... even when people thought hed come here  
GloryDayz : 1/10/2020 6:28 am : link
...
People are going to paint this as a huge negative  
allstarjim : 1/10/2020 7:01 am : link
And more justification on "how we actually got the better guy."

When in reality, they don't have a fucking clue. Rhule might be great, his defense might be great, or it may not.

Same goes for Judge. He's been effective at his job, it's the same job as in major college football, he very well CAN be very good at it in the NFL. Or he may not be. Only time will tell.
Allstarjam  
Mike from Ohio : 1/10/2020 7:09 am : link
There is no room for patience or reason here. We didnt hire Rhule and so clearly he is all flash and no substance and his staff will be woefully unprepared. We hired Judge and he will clearly do everything better. In many ways he has already proven himself a superior NFL coach.

Those are the talking points. Please memorize them.
Giants Lucked Out  
JudgmentDayIsHere : 1/10/2020 7:49 am : link
The early part of that guys tenure will be a disaster. He can his coaches will need to learn to swim. They may eventually be a Beth good staff, may not, but there will be a process of unordered disfunction. I trust Judge will undoubtedly put together a better, more NFL-centered staff.
If I had to make..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/10/2020 8:05 am : link
a call today - Rhule will either be a massive success or a massive failure. Looks like he's going to ride with the people who helped him in Temple and Baylor. No judgements can be made about that today - but it is a huge risk to expect to duplicate success in college to the NFL.

I'd also wonder if familiarity and loyalty might impact his results. When Kitchens was brought up to Judge, he said he's not hiring any of his friends. I don't know if that strategy is any better.

I'm just going to stick with what I've been saying this week. The Panthers will be an interesting study. Tepper will be an interesting owner to watch. I'm actually interested to see how Kuechly and the vets on the D are affected by transitioning from a longtime NFL defensive guy to college coaches.

With some of the officiating shit that has happened and interest in the league waning, this will give me something to watch locally unfold, so that's a cool part
Hopefully  
cokeduplt : 1/10/2020 8:32 am : link
We get someone better than this guy
Love his early work.  
Pete in MD : 1/10/2020 8:33 am : link
RE: Giants Lucked Out  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/10/2020 10:33 am : link
In comment 14771147 JudgmentDayIsHere said:
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The early part of that guys tenure will be a disaster. He can his coaches will need to learn to swim. They may eventually be a Beth good staff, may not, but there will be a process of unordered disfunction. I trust Judge will undoubtedly put together a better, more NFL-centered staff.

How many more handles are you planning to create? What kind of individual comes back repeatedly after being banned three times in less than two weeks?

Stick to Twitter, Patrick.
RE: People are going to paint this as a huge negative  
an_idol_mind : 1/10/2020 10:36 am : link
In comment 14771111 allstarjim said:
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And more justification on "how we actually got the better guy."

When in reality, they don't have a fucking clue. Rhule might be great, his defense might be great, or it may not.

Same goes for Judge. He's been effective at his job, it's the same job as in major college football, he very well CAN be very good at it in the NFL. Or he may not be. Only time will tell.


Doug Pederson really traumatized me when it comes to making predictions. I was certain he was going to run the Eagles into the ground, but he wound up winning a Super Bowl. Now I just have to admit that I don't know a damned thing about this stuff.
RE: Love his early work.  
Greg from LI : 1/10/2020 10:41 am : link
In comment 14771245 Pete in MD said:
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A licky boom boom dowwwwwn
RE: If I had to make..  
Fred in Atlanta : 1/10/2020 10:41 am : link
In comment 14771173 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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a call today - Rhule will either be a massive success or a massive failure. Looks like he's going to ride with the people who helped him in Temple and Baylor. No judgements can be made about that today - but it is a huge risk to expect to duplicate success in college to the NFL.

I'd also wonder if familiarity and loyalty might impact his results. When Kitchens was brought up to Judge, he said he's not hiring any of his friends. I don't know if that strategy is any better.

I am not sure about Rhule or Judge, but it could be a mistake to take just the people he had success with in college. I believe that was one of the key mistakes by Spurrier. He should bring in some people that are familiar with the NFL game.

I do like Judges approach though.
I'm just going to stick with what I've been saying this week. The Panthers will be an interesting study. Tepper will be an interesting owner to watch. I'm actually interested to see how Kuechly and the vets on the D are affected by transitioning from a longtime NFL defensive guy to college coaches.

With some of the officiating shit that has happened and interest in the league waning, this will give me something to watch locally unfold, so that's a cool part
RE: RE: People are going to paint this as a huge negative  
Reale01 : 1/10/2020 10:45 am : link
In comment 14771571 an_idol_mind said:
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In comment 14771111 allstarjim said:


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And more justification on "how we actually got the better guy."

When in reality, they don't have a fucking clue. Rhule might be great, his defense might be great, or it may not.

Same goes for Judge. He's been effective at his job, it's the same job as in major college football, he very well CAN be very good at it in the NFL. Or he may not be. Only time will tell.



Doug Pederson really traumatized me when it comes to making predictions. I was certain he was going to run the Eagles into the ground, but he wound up winning a Super Bowl. Now I just have to admit that I don't know a damned thing about this stuff.


Pederson hired a phenomenal coaching staff.
Reich
DeFillipo (SP)
Schwartz
Staley
and others

Hey don't scoff at the Phil Snow hire.  
Brown Recluse : 1/10/2020 10:45 am : link
We might end up with Freddie Kitchens as our OC.
RE: Hey don't scoff at the Phil Snow hire.  
Fred in Atlanta : 1/10/2020 10:52 am : link
In comment 14771589 Brown Recluse said:
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We might end up with Freddie Kitchens as our OC.


Kitchens as OC may not be bad. The problem is Kitchens the HC.
We may also not hire him or he could be hired as a RB coach.
Didn't Judge..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/10/2020 5:12 pm : link
already shoot down the Kitchens rumors?
No word..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/10/2020 9:59 pm : link
yet on the OC for Carolina, but I think that will be a key piece for them
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