Other than his personality, these comments were made to the media AFTER the actual presser:
Q: We’ve had the opportunity to see your special teams play. What is your offensive philosophy? Do you have an offensive system that you’re going to bring definitely?
A: Again, I think every offensive system has to have levels of multiples that we have to be flexible with in both our personnel and our scheme to match up each opponent game by game. My overall philosophy is we have to be able to put pressure on opponents, and we have to do that with what we have available and what they don’t do well. So, that includes being versatile and multiple in what you do.
Q: Is that the same defensively?
A: It’s the same across the board. Listen, we’re going to play whatever is best for our team and our personnel. 3-4, 4-3, man coverage, zone coverage, we’ll find out what fits us best and we’ll wait until we play against our opponents. Running the ball, throwing the ball, it’s, again, whatever is best week by week by opponent is how we’ll address it.
A: Again, we’ll do whatever fits our personnel versus specific opponents better. 3-4, 4-3, man, zone, we’re going to look at the best path, and that could change week by week. So, we want to build in versatility with our players and be able to use multiples on all sides of the ball.
I am excited about this hire, but feeling old that the new Giants head coach is 7 years younger than me. What have I accomplished in my life? :)
Hopefully no more talk of..."our D will be better next yr when we can get a LB and S etc etc... to fit our system."
Kind of like golfing. You play with what swing you have that day. If your slicing the ball that day, play the slice.
It'd be nice not to hear excuses all year is what I'm saying.
As I mentioned in another thread now we watch the players we bring in. Do not be surprised to see a Running, Option QB brought in as a hybrid WR/RB etc., watch for LB'ers that can play in various roles (Simmons becomes way more possible with his ability to play safety, LB Rush the Passer) and our Olinemen will be more technique based than pure athletic ability.
A: Again, we’ll do whatever fits our personnel versus specific opponents better. 3-4, 4-3, man, zone, we’re going to look at the best path, and that could change week by week. So, we want to build in versatility with our players and be able to use multiples on all sides of the ball.
Yes those are strong answers. The philosophy is there now the question will be him proving his leadership and having a staff with the ability to execute it.
The Giants looked silly bad with assignment and simple execution errors.
It's not like Bettcher and Shurmur drew up Bethea and Baker pointing fingers at each other or Barkley not paying attention to pass rushers.
Judge will soon learn your options are only as broad as the players who are executing them.
I love his statements about how to teach the players. I love the statements about fitting the game plan to the situation. All of it, I loved all of it and I love this guy. There was a lot of pressure yesterday and he delivered. Just gotta keep doing that for the next decade.
He needs to win some football games. This team should be 8-8 next year. That’s not too much to ask. Let’s go coach Joe! Let’s go Big Blue!
I love his statements about how to teach the players. I love the statements about fitting the game plan to the situation. All of it, I loved all of it and I love this guy. There was a lot of pressure yesterday and he delivered. Just gotta keep doing that for the next decade.
He needs to win some football games. This team should be 8-8 next year. That’s not too much to ask. Let’s go coach Joe! Let’s go Big Blue!
McAdoo thanked his in-laws....by name ....WTF?
Talk about "filler" who gives a shit about your freakin in-laws, dude?
And really, would you expect him to say much at this point? He has a lot of work to do before he can start making decisions, and making definitive statements in an introductory presser is the kind of thing that can come back and haunt you later when it gets cut and pasted and thrown back in your face repeatedly.
I liked his comments about how he plans to treat his staff - he cares about their development and their health, both as professionals and as people. He wants to focus on being an educator, on teaching them the right things to do.
That's a lot better than 'stop the run, run the ball, rush the passer'.
And really, would you expect him to say much at this point? He has a lot of work to do before he can start making decisions, and making definitive statements in an introductory presser is the kind of thing that can come back and haunt you later when it gets cut and pasted and thrown back in your face repeatedly.
I liked his comments about how he plans to treat his staff - he cares about their development and their health, both as professionals and as people. He wants to focus on being an educator, on teaching them the right things to do.
That's a lot better than 'stop the run, run the ball, rush the passer'.
He also did not mention ONE player by name. None. That's hard to do.
agreed
How many times have we seen players leave the Giants in disgrace, go to another team and succeed. Happens all to often. Look at the OL guys that were ineffective in NY, get released and do well on another team - Flowers(now), Fluker, Newhouse...not great but serviceable. How come Solder was league average in NE and awful here? How come Kevin Zeitler was rated a top 5 guard in the league and was mediocre last year. Hernandez was a top 3 guard in the draft and has not progressed. Sy point out is flaw and has pointed out several times that it still pops up during games. Why has that not been fixed? He is a human road grader that loves to destroy people. Why has he stalled and why does he have trouble with stunts? Poor coaching.
I have looked at other teams rosters and scratched my head.
Judge said the Giants have players on the roster to compete. I believe him. How can you have a player like Barkley and forget to use him. Same can be said for Engram - a player that everyone knows is a match up nightmare for LBs and Safeties. Yes he gets injuries, but we have seen what he can do.
How can Baker win the Thorpe Trophy and look so bad in the NFL? He was considered the best CB in the draft, you may argue, but no doubt top 3.
I think what Judge said about coaching up players is exactly what is missing. How many times per game did the secondary get confused and release a player on 3rd and long. Why is that? It is bad coaching.
We all know that BB can swap rosters with most coaches and still beat them. Why is that? BB sees what his players can do well. He puts them in position to win using the players strengths. This is what I think Joe Judge will do. He will hire coaches that can get through to their players so the player understands what they are supposed to do and then let their natural ability take over.
Seems like they picked a good one.
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latch on to. He really didn't say anything.
And really, would you expect him to say much at this point? He has a lot of work to do before he can start making decisions, and making definitive statements in an introductory presser is the kind of thing that can come back and haunt you later when it gets cut and pasted and thrown back in your face repeatedly.
I liked his comments about how he plans to treat his staff - he cares about their development and their health, both as professionals and as people. He wants to focus on being an educator, on teaching them the right things to do.
That's a lot better than 'stop the run, run the ball, rush the passer'.
He also did not mention ONE player by name. None. That's hard to do.
Very Belicheck of him but it does not seem like an act. I think a lot of coaches that left Belicheck failed as HC because they tried to be like him and his personality. There is something that just seems different about Judge. I could be wrong, but all in for now.
If it is shown in practice that BAKER can’t be trusted in zone coverage but excels in man press, then I think he may not be put into the situation of possibly failing because he just isn’t smart enough to figure out how to rotate his coverage and cover an area. So, they either use Baker just to be in man press or they take him out if they want to be in zone coverage for that play.
Jints, exactly. Since a new HC presser has become an every other year thing around here, I can honestly say that I don't remember much from the McAdoo presser (aside from the suit) or Shurmur's. I can say for certain, I will remember this one.
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latch on to. He really didn't say anything.
And really, would you expect him to say much at this point? He has a lot of work to do before he can start making decisions, and making definitive statements in an introductory presser is the kind of thing that can come back and haunt you later when it gets cut and pasted and thrown back in your face repeatedly.
I liked his comments about how he plans to treat his staff - he cares about their development and their health, both as professionals and as people. He wants to focus on being an educator, on teaching them the right things to do.
That's a lot better than 'stop the run, run the ball, rush the passer'.
He also did not mention ONE player by name. None. That's hard to do.
I think he said a ton. It's 2020 in the NFL and the game is much different today. It's evolving, especially on offense. These guys are pros and should be able to play in any system. Fundamentals are the key, the rest is details.
Our DL, in a 4-3, would be brutal. The biggest thing BB does to beat teams is confuse them. You can watch film against one team and they do something totally different to you.
I'm excited.
The Giants looked silly bad with assignment and simple execution errors.
It's not like Bettcher and Shurmur drew up Bethea and Baker pointing fingers at each other or Barkley not paying attention to pass rushers.
Judge will soon learn your options are only as broad as the players who are executing them.
Sounds to me like he understands your last point and that he's ok with that, and he will do everything he can to make it work that particular week.
That's a ton of teaching.
The more flexibility you have, the more scheme diverse, the more players must be open and learning.
Some of that is how you teach, some is accountability.
We have seen this team constantly blow assignments so I think some fundamental changes have to be made in all these areas.
This is a herculean task and as Judge says, it starts one day at a time.
Going back to Lombardi - you knew the sweep was coming. You could not stop it.
Today with BB and TB - You know Brady is going to find Edelmann on 3rd down - you cannot stop it.
Jones to Barkley or Shepard?????
With Engram - find ways to create mismatches with him either using his size against a CB or his speed against LBs and don't expect him to seal the edge by blocking a DL.
Barkley - I think we'll see games where he gets 8 carries with 15 targets in the passing game and other games where he finishes with 25-30 carries. If they can use Barkley the way BB used Lewis/White/etc in the passing game, the offense could really be explosive.
the actual formal presser:
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Our philosophy is going to be to put pressure on the opponent to prepare for multiple things. Within that, we have to have personnel versatility and we have to have flexibility schematically to make sure that whoever we play, we can adjust our game plan to maximize our strengths versus their weaknesses. So, while there may be some games that we throw the ball 50 times, there’s going to be other times we may throw it 10 times and run the ball 45 times.
This is the way the Belichick and Pats do it. Would be great if it eventually works here, too.
I think DJ will look a lot better next season. We are going to see him doing the things he's best at from what judge is saying.
Its a difficult task and wont happen overnight. I expect that the coaches we bring in will have a ton of work tasked to them from reading articles on people that have worked for him. This team will not be unprepared.
Someone mentioned it in another thread, but it's that Coach Boone (Remember the Titans) vibe.
Call it culture if you want, but I want a HC who's going to demand effort and hard work. I think JJ is going to demand his players eat, sleep and breathe football. If you're not in the classroom then you're studying the playbook, or you're watching film, or running drills, or in the weight room, etc.
That kind of attitude, if implemented in a healthy way, can really pay dividends on the field.
Well when you get he same question multiple times with a slight twist ... it forces you to repeat yourself
"Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what are we going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do"
And I said yesterday this reminds me of one of Parcells' strengths at the individual level: knowing what (different) buttons to push for each player. Judge takes that flexibility further in stressing flexibility in individual player's learning style.
Interesting that he is perusing a PhD in education.
Loved his response to what he learned as a kindergarten PE teacher 😊
That's a ton of teaching.
The more flexibility you have, the more scheme diverse, the more players must be open and learning.
Some of that is how you teach, some is accountability.
We have seen this team constantly blow assignments so I think some fundamental changes have to be made in all these areas.
This is a herculean task and as Judge says, it starts one day at a time.
Yep. If it were easy, all teams would do it. It's not. I like that he's willing to try, or at least he says he is.
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Ulysses S. Grant: "Quit thinking about what Bobby Lee's gonna do to us and start thinking about what we're going to do to him."
"Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what are we going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do"
If anyone has not read Grant's Memoirs and are fascinated by the Civil War, do yourself a favor and read it. It will change your beliefs about Grant. He may not have been the tactician Robert E Lee was, but then again maybe he was. Let's remember, Lee was 58 years old and had been in the Army 36 years at the start of the war. He was Chief of Staff with Winfield Scott. Grant was out of the Army in 10 years after West Point and out of the Army 8 years before the Governor of Illinois hired him to train the various Illinois Regiments being deployed to the Union. He only gained command because a Colonel of one regiment became ill and The Governor appointed Grant Colonel of that Regiment (I think the 25th Illinois).
Grant was 41/42 years old at the time of his return commision. Within a year he was a General and actually was the first(IIRC) to coordinate with the Navy to gain tactical advantage in the field and that is how he won the West - capturing Vicksburg on July 4th 1863 - the day after Gettysburg.
No promises, no declarations, because he’s at square one. But I like the idea that there will be a process and that it will evolve. That’s pure Saban/Belichick. The guy gives me hope.
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Ulysses S. Grant: "Quit thinking about what Bobby Lee's gonna do to us and start thinking about what we're going to do to him."
"Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what are we going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do"
If anyone has not read Grant's Memoirs and are fascinated by the Civil War, do yourself a favor and read it. It will change your beliefs about Grant. He may not have been the tactician Robert E Lee was, but then again maybe he was. Let's remember, Lee was 58 years old and had been in the Army 36 years at the start of the war. He was Chief of Staff with Winfield Scott. Grant was out of the Army in 10 years after West Point and out of the Army 8 years before the Governor of Illinois hired him to train the various Illinois Regiments being deployed to the Union. He only gained command because a Colonel of one regiment became ill and The Governor appointed Grant Colonel of that Regiment (I think the 25th Illinois).
Grant was 41/42 years old at the time of his return commision. Within a year he was a General and actually was the first(IIRC) to coordinate with the Navy to gain tactical advantage in the field and that is how he won the West - capturing Vicksburg on July 4th 1863 - the day after Gettysburg.
Grant's memoirs are great, as is Ron Chernow's biography of him.
Without delving too much into it, there was a lot of post-Civil War political BS that got Grant tagged with a negative reputation that history is gradually shaking off.
Tired of coaches saying that "we need to improve our ececution" week after week.
love what I'm hearing from JJ
i think it would utilize more than just barkely. Pats use multiple RBs. Sony Michel was a disappointment this year but there were issues with the line and i believe he wasn't 100% heatlhy. he's also not barkely...
We heard this all year. "We are doing a lot of good things, but keep making mistakes that cost us."
There was an appalling lack of discipline throughout the defense as well as the offensive line.
Defense
Gap discipline
Rush lanes
Proper leverage
Tackling
Blown coverages
Offense Line
Blitz pick-ups
Adjusting to stunts
Assignments
Leverage
Technique
This.
That's a great idea. I may have my son watch it on sunday
Both of you probably know this...
...One thing that Grant was always recognized for -- even when Robert E. Lee enjoyed a much better reputation -- was the amazing clarity and logic of his writing style. His ability to translate his thoughts onto paper with little if any edits illustrates the brilliance of the man. And when he was in a race for his life, he forged on heroically with his memoirs until the very end.
And as an aside, what always resonated with me was that Grant was a wonderful husband and father, and that his drinking was in no small way related to how much he missed his wife while stationed out West away from home.
(I'm paraphrasing a bit)
Q: you are going to be a guy that is going to run the whole show and not going to be a guy that just runs the defense or offense.
Joe judge: I want to be the head football coach of the team. I don't want to be the head offensive or defensive coach. If all you are worrying about is game planning or calling plays on one side of the ball, then you are going to lose the pulse of the team. You are not going to be able to walk the building and spend time with your players, get to know the trainers and equipment guys to find out what is really moving throughout your building. You have to have a beat on your players. You have to know what pushes the players, know what phase they are in and if you need to push harder or pull back accordingly. You have to know the team as a head coach.
What a tremendous answer and I'm glad that we will have a coach that will have more awareness as to what is going on in a game, but awareness what all of the units are doing through the course of the week. Being involved everywhere.
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If it is shown in practice that BAKER can’t be trusted in zone coverage but excels in man press, then I think he may not be put into the situation of possibly failing because he just isn’t smart enough to figure out how to rotate his coverage and cover an area. So, they either use Baker just to be in man press or they take him out if they want to be in zone coverage for that play.
I don't see that as a viable option as they'll be telegraphing exactly what they're doing on D that play.
I think it's more likely if they see he has trouble in zone coverage they'll teach how how to be better at it, and explain fully how the concepts work, why they work and are needed to succeed.
How many times have we seen players leave the Giants in disgrace, go to another team and succeed. Happens all to often. Look at the OL guys that were ineffective in NY, get released and do well on another team - Flowers(now), Fluker, Newhouse...not great but serviceable. How come Solder was league average in NE and awful here? How come Kevin Zeitler was rated a top 5 guard in the league and was mediocre last year. Hernandez was a top 3 guard in the draft and has not progressed. Sy point out is flaw and has pointed out several times that it still pops up during games. Why has that not been fixed? He is a human road grader that loves to destroy people. Why has he stalled and why does he have trouble with stunts? Poor coaching.
I have looked at other teams rosters and scratched my head.
Judge said the Giants have players on the roster to compete. I believe him. How can you have a player like Barkley and forget to use him. Same can be said for Engram - a player that everyone knows is a match up nightmare for LBs and Safeties. Yes he gets injuries, but we have seen what he can do.
How can Baker win the Thorpe Trophy and look so bad in the NFL? He was considered the best CB in the draft, you may argue, but no doubt top 3.
I think what Judge said about coaching up players is exactly what is missing. How many times per game did the secondary get confused and release a player on 3rd and long. Why is that? It is bad coaching.
We all know that BB can swap rosters with most coaches and still beat them. Why is that? BB sees what his players can do well. He puts them in position to win using the players strengths. This is what I think Joe Judge will do. He will hire coaches that can get through to their players so the player understands what they are supposed to do and then let their natural ability take over.
It's like you read my mind...
But the reality is that such an emphasis requires knowledgeable players well versed in every scheme and contingency.
The Giants are a very young team. They exhibited numerous mental errors in this past season in terms of blown coverages and assignments n what were pretty basic schemes that every team runs.
The onus is going to be on the coaching staff to coach our young players up. That will require smart energetic communicative coaches and players receptive to being coached and willing to put the time in to learn the concepts
It will also likely require more reps than allowable under the current bargaining contract.
So where is Judge going to find the time to put in play all the Roll Tide drills he was talking about?
If he is really serious about scheme versatility then we may well see an influx of vet FA's because that is the fastest way to implement scheme versatility in the current limited practice NFL environment
It's great for the team but awful for the really passionate fans that are hungry for information and reactions and such.
I'll take wins over great-pressers.
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It's great for the team but awful for the really passionate fans that are hungry for information and reactions and such.
I'll take wins over great-pressers.
And while he sounded Belichickian, that's real catnip for this beaten down fan base, BB has forgotten more football than Judge knows at this point. So I just hope Judge can implement most of his ideas and with the right staff. That's critical.