She's a Bills fan and says she has no hate for the Giants but she does seem to take a negative view on just about everything Giants related.
I like her on the radio too, and think she's a real good listen on pretty much everything else. I know she says she has no Giants bias but her takes on them say otherwise even if unintentional.
Whoopsie...he just misspoke and called Judge 'Matt' Â
She's a Bills fan and says she has no hate for the Giants but she does seem to take a negative view on just about everything Giants related.
I like her on the radio too, and think she's a real good listen on pretty much everything else. I know she says she has no Giants bias but her takes on them say otherwise even if unintentional.
OK thanks, I'll keep this in mind for future context
Kimberly Jones
@KimJonesSports
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John Mara tells @MandMWFAN
that even with a lot of cap space, #NYG will emphasize building through the draft.
It continues to be hard to believe that NYG traded a third-round pick, 68th overall, for pending free agent Leonard Williams.
she's basically the female Evan Roberts without the wrestling obsession.
She doesn't hate the Giants and she's not biased. She hasn't liked a lot of their moves, but was generally positive about the Judge hire. Regarding the negativity, so has most of the media for the past few years, and the Giants have been abysmal. Maybe it's less bias and more accuracy?
Kimberly Jones
@KimJonesSports
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John Mara tells @MandMWFAN
that even with a lot of cap space, #NYG will emphasize building through the draft.
It continues to be hard to believe that NYG traded a third-round pick, 68th overall, for pending free agent Leonard Williams.
I heard that and was really hoping for a follow-up question..."Seeing as you're so dead-set on building through the draft, how could you let Gettleman throw away a 3 and a 4/5 at a pending UFA interior DL?"
she's basically the female Evan Roberts without the wrestling obsession.
She doesn't hate the Giants and she's not biased. She hasn't liked a lot of their moves, but was generally positive about the Judge hire. Regarding the negativity, so has most of the media for the past few years, and the Giants have been abysmal. Maybe it's less bias and more accuracy?
Why because she says she doesn't hate them?
Again, I'm a fan of hers but have ears and it's pretty clear to me there's something going on there. I know there hasn't been many positives to chime in on but she takes every chance she can get to accent negatives and IMO takes a big of joy in doing so.
Let's take yesterday for example, she wasn't totally negative but kept pounding the point she wanted to hear some of why the Giants made Judge their man from his presser.
Then today when she got what she wanted, instead of being positive about that and making it, I don't know at least a main talking point like she did yesterday about how she needed to hear it, she immediately shifts to how he didn't say anything about Jones.
She goes on to play clips from the other three hires and their comments about their QB's and gets on Judge for not commenting.
She didn't even give him the benefit on the doubt on his position of wanting to get more info on all his players first and instead ripped him a bit saying you played them this year and surely had some info and could share.
It's surprising to me because I've always thought she was a good listen and had a fair reasonable take on most things. I've had Jets fans friends who've noticed her takes on the Giants as well so it's not just me who thinks she's got some bias here.
Kimberly Jones
@KimJonesSports
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John Mara tells @MandMWFAN
that even with a lot of cap space, #NYG will emphasize building through the draft.
It continues to be hard to believe that NYG traded a third-round pick, 68th overall, for pending free agent Leonard Williams.
Insert picture of mob beating dead horse....
Too bad the Giants only have ONE draft and they traded it away....
Kimberly Jones
@KimJonesSports
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John Mara tells @MandMWFAN
that even with a lot of cap space, #NYG will emphasize building through the draft.
It continues to be hard to believe that NYG traded a third-round pick, 68th overall, for pending free agent Leonard Williams.
Maybe that's what the Giants meant by using both free agency and the draft to build, since acquiring Williams long term will require the use of both free agency AND multiple draft picks!
and I think its nice to not have a fan of my team commenting from a different POV.
Moose is a Skins fan but at least he comes across as objective when it comes to the Giants IMO.
I wish I could say the same for Maggie because I really do like her. She was the only one worth listening to on CMB but for whatever reason she' doesn't seem to be as objective when it comes to the Giants.
and don't notice. I heard her critique on Judge not commenting on Jones and she explained her self, I was fine with it.
The rest? Ehh, its radio, its entertainment and they have to fill air time. As long as she isn't making up things out of thin air or accusing people of something that she knows isn't true (like Manish Mehta) then I don't mind at all.
The Michael Kay show is just as biased against the Giants as she is. Â
It's weird, but cool to know even with this franchise being awful for several years that they can still make some folks butt-hurt. Nothing wrong with that.
What? We're only listening to sports talk radio so we can hear NYG company shills tout the company line? Dottinos 24/7? Even if she does have a bias (guess I don't listen enough), if she's up front about it, so what? We've had so much pablum thrown at us about this franchise in the last 8 years.
Calling her the female Even is a reasonable take: she's articulate enough (and I like the sound of her voice) and gives reasoned points of view, and she's reasonably well informed, unlike some of the weekend or midday thugs WFAN has recently hired.
I don't need a talk radio host to slobber over the Giants moves but be fair, be somewhat objective and be intellectually honest. Maggie is none of those things based on what I heard last week.
I am a huge fan of the show but agree that MK is just pushing an agenda at this point re: the Giants. The way he parsed Judge's words at his PC was downright stupid. I turned it off it was so mindless.
she's basically the female Evan Roberts without the wrestling obsession.
She doesn't hate the Giants and she's not biased. She hasn't liked a lot of their moves, but was generally positive about the Judge hire. Regarding the negativity, so has most of the media for the past few years, and the Giants have been abysmal. Maybe it's less bias and more accuracy?
Why because she says she doesn't hate them?
Again, I'm a fan of hers but have ears and it's pretty clear to me there's something going on there. I know there hasn't been many positives to chime in on but she takes every chance she can get to accent negatives and IMO takes a big of joy in doing so.
Let's take yesterday for example, she wasn't totally negative but kept pounding the point she wanted to hear some of why the Giants made Judge their man from his presser.
Then today when she got what she wanted, instead of being positive about that and making it, I don't know at least a main talking point like she did yesterday about how she needed to hear it, she immediately shifts to how he didn't say anything about Jones.
She goes on to play clips from the other three hires and their comments about their QB's and gets on Judge for not commenting.
She didn't even give him the benefit on the doubt on his position of wanting to get more info on all his players first and instead ripped him a bit saying you played them this year and surely had some info and could share.
It's surprising to me because I've always thought she was a good listen and had a fair reasonable take on most things. I've had Jets fans friends who've noticed her takes on the Giants as well so it's not just me who thinks she's got some bias here.
That's because you guys take any criticism of the Giants to be some massive negative conspiracy against the team.
News flash - they've been absolute shit for the past 3 years. They've been to one playoff game in 8 years. There are a LOT of negative things to say about this team, because they stink.
I didn't listen for hours, but I heard her point about Judge and Jones. It was fair, and she didn't harp on it. She said that she was surprised Judge had nothing to say, as he claimed as ST coach he used to scout all the players in the draft, and the Patriots played against the Giants this year. She figured that based on that, he would at least have something to say about him.
Not exactly ripping them because she's still butthurt over XXV.
on the ridiculous NYT reported question on a punt decision in the WC game. I thought JJudge showed good judgment in steering away from any answer that might cast negatives on his former team or players on his new team. Smart
oh, my gosh, you wound me to the quick. I'd counter that you might have lots of issues in your life if your threshold for the 'worst' of anything is that low. lol
RE: Judge took the identical (no comment) position Â
on the ridiculous NYT reported question on a punt decision in the WC game. I thought JJudge showed good judgment in steering away from any answer that might cast negatives on his former team or players on his new team. Smart
I didn't have a problem with his answer either. No reason to put anything in print before you've had a chance to do a full eval. She seemed to pick at the fact that he didn't just give him some generic praise, but she didn't exactly hammer him for that either. She also didn't suggest that there was something there, that maybe Judge didn't like Jones. That is what someone with a real ax to grind against an org would have done.
The Pats ST question from last week's game was just stupid, and was handled appropriately.
So far though, I think she was better in the afternoon. I don't sense much chemistry with Malusis, but stranger than that, her personality has been a bit different since she started the midday show. She's been much more aggressive with callers, almost Francesa like sometimes. While I wouldn't say she is anti-Giants, there does appear to be some form of agenda with them. Knowing nothing about Joe Judge she decided to mock and trash it as the news broke live during her show. She even regurgitated the whole "he's just a WR coach" media line that intentionally ignored his almost 10 years as a ST coach.
and don't notice. I heard her critique on Judge not commenting on Jones and she explained her self, I was fine with it.
The rest? Ehh, its radio, its entertainment and they have to fill air time. As long as she isn't making up things out of thin air or accusing people of something that she knows isn't true (like Manish Mehta) then I don't mind at all.
I agree with you about the Mehta part and the entertainment part too.
I guess I've just been bummed at her negative take on the Giants because I am a fan of hers and didn't expect it. I expected her to be more balanced in her takes like she usually is but for whatever reason it isn't coming across that way to me.
To me it's one of those things once you notice it's hard not to keep noticing. That's how it's been recently for me and hopefully it's shifts more to a more objective take.
Didn't realize until reading moespree's comment that her new sidekick was him. He would drag any partner's performance down. If her afternoon former partner, Bart, meaning Bart Scott? I found it a challenge to listen to his views and his repetitive expression of them.
she's basically the female Evan Roberts without the wrestling obsession.
She doesn't hate the Giants and she's not biased. She hasn't liked a lot of their moves, but was generally positive about the Judge hire. Regarding the negativity, so has most of the media for the past few years, and the Giants have been abysmal. Maybe it's less bias and more accuracy?
Why because she says she doesn't hate them?
Again, I'm a fan of hers but have ears and it's pretty clear to me there's something going on there. I know there hasn't been many positives to chime in on but she takes every chance she can get to accent negatives and IMO takes a big of joy in doing so.
Let's take yesterday for example, she wasn't totally negative but kept pounding the point she wanted to hear some of why the Giants made Judge their man from his presser.
Then today when she got what she wanted, instead of being positive about that and making it, I don't know at least a main talking point like she did yesterday about how she needed to hear it, she immediately shifts to how he didn't say anything about Jones.
She goes on to play clips from the other three hires and their comments about their QB's and gets on Judge for not commenting.
She didn't even give him the benefit on the doubt on his position of wanting to get more info on all his players first and instead ripped him a bit saying you played them this year and surely had some info and could share.
It's surprising to me because I've always thought she was a good listen and had a fair reasonable take on most things. I've had Jets fans friends who've noticed her takes on the Giants as well so it's not just me who thinks she's got some bias here.
That's because you guys take any criticism of the Giants to be some massive negative conspiracy against the team.
News flash - they've been absolute shit for the past 3 years. They've been to one playoff game in 8 years. There are a LOT of negative things to say about this team, because they stink.
I didn't listen for hours, but I heard her point about Judge and Jones. It was fair, and she didn't harp on it. She said that she was surprised Judge had nothing to say, as he claimed as ST coach he used to scout all the players in the draft, and the Patriots played against the Giants this year. She figured that based on that, he would at least have something to say about him.
Not exactly ripping them because she's still butthurt over XXV.
It's got nothing to do with some type of negative conspiracy against them or thinking she's butt hurt, which I don't think she is.
I do think she's not being genuine about not disliking them though because to my ears her constantly taking the approach she is says otherwise.
As far as yesterday and today about Jones, you missed my point. It was about how yesterday she made a huge deal of what she wanted to hear and it was the focus of a good part of the show. Then today when she got what she wanted, she glossed right over that and on to her perceived negative on not talking about Jones.
I have no doubt had he not come across as well or shown his personality like she wanted, it would've been the main focus today.
IMO, it would've been more fair and balnced to spend some time on how he did says the things she was looking to hear, and then going on to something else.
That's all, no big deal and again it's not about being mad because she's negative about the Giants, it's because unlike Moose she is too one sided with her Giants takes IMO. I can take her criticisms because they have been shit recently but when they do something right, she seems to try hard to find a negative in that too.
even if she doesn’t like or talk nice about the Giants,
Agreed and I do still like her. I'm just venting a bit about being bummed she doesn't seem to be her usual objective self.
It's similar to liking Francessa but not being able to take him interviewing guests and talking all over their answers or how he tried to answer for them.
I still liked him and thought he had some great insights on some things but found his interviewing style cringe worthy.
Maggie's Giants takes aren't cringe worthy to me, just becoming entirely predictable in their always being glass half empty type of way.
I haven't listened to the Fan in the mid day in forever. Â
Tuned in today, and this is my first time listening to her. She has some of the worst football takes I've ever heard. She's basically a terrible poster on BBI with a radio show.
The wrestling thing must crawl up your asshole sideways. Evan is the most well rounded knowledgeable sports talk show host we have here locally. He occasionally sprinkles in some pro wrestling references which happens to be a billion dollar industry with millions of fans but you and your high horse refuse to accept that. Comparing Maggie to Evan is like comparing Pat Shurmur to Bill Parcells. Go piss up a rope.
Angry about what?
If the interview with Joe Judge didn't go so well, would that have changed your approach to Rhule?
JM answer: That's a fair thing to say. Yes we would probably try to move some numbers around but we still have to make good business decisions
Paraphrasing of course.
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Angry about what?
Wide Right?
She's a Bills fan and says she has no hate for the Giants but she does seem to take a negative view on just about everything Giants related.
I like her on the radio too, and think she's a real good listen on pretty much everything else. I know she says she has no Giants bias but her takes on them say otherwise even if unintentional.
Would not comment on Judge's contrat, but was leaked he got a 5 year - 5m per year contract.
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Angry about what?
Wide Right?
She's a Bills fan and says she has no hate for the Giants but she does seem to take a negative view on just about everything Giants related.
I like her on the radio too, and think she's a real good listen on pretty much everything else. I know she says she has no Giants bias but her takes on them say otherwise even if unintentional.
OK thanks, I'll keep this in mind for future context
@KimJonesSports
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John Mara tells @MandMWFAN
that even with a lot of cap space, #NYG will emphasize building through the draft.
It continues to be hard to believe that NYG traded a third-round pick, 68th overall, for pending free agent Leonard Williams.
Sorry , Maggie's voice sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me.
This scenario makes sense for Eli, he can transition to his next career while keeping his family situated...really hope they work something out
She doesn't hate the Giants and she's not biased. She hasn't liked a lot of their moves, but was generally positive about the Judge hire. Regarding the negativity, so has most of the media for the past few years, and the Giants have been abysmal. Maybe it's less bias and more accuracy?
@KimJonesSports
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5m
John Mara tells @MandMWFAN
that even with a lot of cap space, #NYG will emphasize building through the draft.
It continues to be hard to believe that NYG traded a third-round pick, 68th overall, for pending free agent Leonard Williams.
I heard that and was really hoping for a follow-up question..."Seeing as you're so dead-set on building through the draft, how could you let Gettleman throw away a 3 and a 4/5 at a pending UFA interior DL?"
Yep.. Caught that slip up too!!
She doesn't hate the Giants and she's not biased. She hasn't liked a lot of their moves, but was generally positive about the Judge hire. Regarding the negativity, so has most of the media for the past few years, and the Giants have been abysmal. Maybe it's less bias and more accuracy?
Why because she says she doesn't hate them?
Again, I'm a fan of hers but have ears and it's pretty clear to me there's something going on there. I know there hasn't been many positives to chime in on but she takes every chance she can get to accent negatives and IMO takes a big of joy in doing so.
Let's take yesterday for example, she wasn't totally negative but kept pounding the point she wanted to hear some of why the Giants made Judge their man from his presser.
Then today when she got what she wanted, instead of being positive about that and making it, I don't know at least a main talking point like she did yesterday about how she needed to hear it, she immediately shifts to how he didn't say anything about Jones.
She goes on to play clips from the other three hires and their comments about their QB's and gets on Judge for not commenting.
She didn't even give him the benefit on the doubt on his position of wanting to get more info on all his players first and instead ripped him a bit saying you played them this year and surely had some info and could share.
It's surprising to me because I've always thought she was a good listen and had a fair reasonable take on most things. I've had Jets fans friends who've noticed her takes on the Giants as well so it's not just me who thinks she's got some bias here.
@KimJonesSports
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5m
John Mara tells @MandMWFAN
that even with a lot of cap space, #NYG will emphasize building through the draft.
It continues to be hard to believe that NYG traded a third-round pick, 68th overall, for pending free agent Leonard Williams.
Insert picture of mob beating dead horse....
Too bad the Giants only have ONE draft and they traded it away....
@KimJonesSports
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5m
John Mara tells @MandMWFAN
that even with a lot of cap space, #NYG will emphasize building through the draft.
It continues to be hard to believe that NYG traded a third-round pick, 68th overall, for pending free agent Leonard Williams.
Maybe that's what the Giants meant by using both free agency and the draft to build, since acquiring Williams long term will require the use of both free agency AND multiple draft picks!
Moose is a Skins fan but at least he comes across as objective when it comes to the Giants IMO.
I wish I could say the same for Maggie because I really do like her. She was the only one worth listening to on CMB but for whatever reason she' doesn't seem to be as objective when it comes to the Giants.
The rest? Ehh, its radio, its entertainment and they have to fill air time. As long as she isn't making up things out of thin air or accusing people of something that she knows isn't true (like Manish Mehta) then I don't mind at all.
Calling her the female Even is a reasonable take: she's articulate enough (and I like the sound of her voice) and gives reasoned points of view, and she's reasonably well informed, unlike some of the weekend or midday thugs WFAN has recently hired.
Maggie was horrible. I like Moose.
I don't need a talk radio host to slobber over the Giants moves but be fair, be somewhat objective and be intellectually honest. Maggie is none of those things based on what I heard last week.
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she's basically the female Evan Roberts without the wrestling obsession.
She doesn't hate the Giants and she's not biased. She hasn't liked a lot of their moves, but was generally positive about the Judge hire. Regarding the negativity, so has most of the media for the past few years, and the Giants have been abysmal. Maybe it's less bias and more accuracy?
Why because she says she doesn't hate them?
Again, I'm a fan of hers but have ears and it's pretty clear to me there's something going on there. I know there hasn't been many positives to chime in on but she takes every chance she can get to accent negatives and IMO takes a big of joy in doing so.
Let's take yesterday for example, she wasn't totally negative but kept pounding the point she wanted to hear some of why the Giants made Judge their man from his presser.
Then today when she got what she wanted, instead of being positive about that and making it, I don't know at least a main talking point like she did yesterday about how she needed to hear it, she immediately shifts to how he didn't say anything about Jones.
She goes on to play clips from the other three hires and their comments about their QB's and gets on Judge for not commenting.
She didn't even give him the benefit on the doubt on his position of wanting to get more info on all his players first and instead ripped him a bit saying you played them this year and surely had some info and could share.
It's surprising to me because I've always thought she was a good listen and had a fair reasonable take on most things. I've had Jets fans friends who've noticed her takes on the Giants as well so it's not just me who thinks she's got some bias here.
That's because you guys take any criticism of the Giants to be some massive negative conspiracy against the team.
News flash - they've been absolute shit for the past 3 years. They've been to one playoff game in 8 years. There are a LOT of negative things to say about this team, because they stink.
I didn't listen for hours, but I heard her point about Judge and Jones. It was fair, and she didn't harp on it. She said that she was surprised Judge had nothing to say, as he claimed as ST coach he used to scout all the players in the draft, and the Patriots played against the Giants this year. She figured that based on that, he would at least have something to say about him.
Not exactly ripping them because she's still butthurt over XXV.
There's a lot of bad takes posted on this site - but this might be the worst.
I didn't have a problem with his answer either. No reason to put anything in print before you've had a chance to do a full eval. She seemed to pick at the fact that he didn't just give him some generic praise, but she didn't exactly hammer him for that either. She also didn't suggest that there was something there, that maybe Judge didn't like Jones. That is what someone with a real ax to grind against an org would have done.
The Pats ST question from last week's game was just stupid, and was handled appropriately.
The rest? Ehh, its radio, its entertainment and they have to fill air time. As long as she isn't making up things out of thin air or accusing people of something that she knows isn't true (like Manish Mehta) then I don't mind at all.
I agree with you about the Mehta part and the entertainment part too.
I guess I've just been bummed at her negative take on the Giants because I am a fan of hers and didn't expect it. I expected her to be more balanced in her takes like she usually is but for whatever reason it isn't coming across that way to me.
To me it's one of those things once you notice it's hard not to keep noticing. That's how it's been recently for me and hopefully it's shifts more to a more objective take.
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she's basically the female Evan Roberts without the wrestling obsession.
She doesn't hate the Giants and she's not biased. She hasn't liked a lot of their moves, but was generally positive about the Judge hire. Regarding the negativity, so has most of the media for the past few years, and the Giants have been abysmal. Maybe it's less bias and more accuracy?
Why because she says she doesn't hate them?
Again, I'm a fan of hers but have ears and it's pretty clear to me there's something going on there. I know there hasn't been many positives to chime in on but she takes every chance she can get to accent negatives and IMO takes a big of joy in doing so.
Let's take yesterday for example, she wasn't totally negative but kept pounding the point she wanted to hear some of why the Giants made Judge their man from his presser.
Then today when she got what she wanted, instead of being positive about that and making it, I don't know at least a main talking point like she did yesterday about how she needed to hear it, she immediately shifts to how he didn't say anything about Jones.
She goes on to play clips from the other three hires and their comments about their QB's and gets on Judge for not commenting.
She didn't even give him the benefit on the doubt on his position of wanting to get more info on all his players first and instead ripped him a bit saying you played them this year and surely had some info and could share.
It's surprising to me because I've always thought she was a good listen and had a fair reasonable take on most things. I've had Jets fans friends who've noticed her takes on the Giants as well so it's not just me who thinks she's got some bias here.
That's because you guys take any criticism of the Giants to be some massive negative conspiracy against the team.
News flash - they've been absolute shit for the past 3 years. They've been to one playoff game in 8 years. There are a LOT of negative things to say about this team, because they stink.
I didn't listen for hours, but I heard her point about Judge and Jones. It was fair, and she didn't harp on it. She said that she was surprised Judge had nothing to say, as he claimed as ST coach he used to scout all the players in the draft, and the Patriots played against the Giants this year. She figured that based on that, he would at least have something to say about him.
Not exactly ripping them because she's still butthurt over XXV.
It's got nothing to do with some type of negative conspiracy against them or thinking she's butt hurt, which I don't think she is.
I do think she's not being genuine about not disliking them though because to my ears her constantly taking the approach she is says otherwise.
As far as yesterday and today about Jones, you missed my point. It was about how yesterday she made a huge deal of what she wanted to hear and it was the focus of a good part of the show. Then today when she got what she wanted, she glossed right over that and on to her perceived negative on not talking about Jones.
I have no doubt had he not come across as well or shown his personality like she wanted, it would've been the main focus today.
IMO, it would've been more fair and balnced to spend some time on how he did says the things she was looking to hear, and then going on to something else.
That's all, no big deal and again it's not about being mad because she's negative about the Giants, it's because unlike Moose she is too one sided with her Giants takes IMO. I can take her criticisms because they have been shit recently but when they do something right, she seems to try hard to find a negative in that too.
Agreed and I do still like her. I'm just venting a bit about being bummed she doesn't seem to be her usual objective self.
It's similar to liking Francessa but not being able to take him interviewing guests and talking all over their answers or how he tried to answer for them.
I still liked him and thought he had some great insights on some things but found his interviewing style cringe worthy.
Maggie's Giants takes aren't cringe worthy to me, just becoming entirely predictable in their always being glass half empty type of way.