Hello, BBI. I'm a long-time Giants fan and I've been a lurker here for a number of years. I have always appreciated the opinions on this board and the analysis of Sy, Eric and others. I don't have a lot of free time to engage in discussion online about my favorite team, but I thought I'd share with you some tidbits from a psychological standpoint on the Joe Judge press conference yesterday and why I'm completely blown away.
A quick intro on me: I have a background of 16 years in law enforcement and psychology. One of the main aspects of my profession in criminology deals with profiling. It's something I do pretty heavily. Among other things, I've been trained to read people by how they react, their mannerisms while speaking, any physical tics or tells, lilts in voice, etc. It's not a perfect science, but you'd be surprised by just how on-the-mark profiles tend to be.
I watched, and re-watched twice more the Judge presser from yesterday and this guy totally blew me away based on two things:
1) How off-the-cuff he was with his responses. Quite a bit of his initial intro was rehearsed. Several of the lines were based on anticipated questions, practiced and delivered for effect (Miss Cleo, and one or two others), and I'm pretty sure a couple of the things he said were tried on Mr. Mara and DG during his interview process, and then slightly re-worded and regurgitated for the press.
That aside, he only consulted his notes a handful of times. While he didn't stray far off-script during his intro, he couldn't entirely predict the questions that would be posed to him (and, even if he did, will get to that next), he has a natural, quick-thinking ability. He felt at home at the podium. He maintained a semblance of control and authority. I came away feeling this guy was completely genuine and real, he can read and react quickly, and he 100% believes in what he says with positive conviction.
2) This guy is a preparation nut. Like, obsessed with having the answers before they're posed. Two of his answers (or, actually, part of them), were rehearsed based on his anticipation of them being asked. His reaction of the reaction of the members of the press corps. gives this away; he was pleased with their reaction to his answers. This guy must have spent a bunch of time predicting what would be asked, and drew up responses ahead of time based on those predictions. But he extrapolated on his responses (and pretty lengthily!) so this wasn't a bunch of B.S. to feed the press and his new owners what they might want to hear.
I wish I could give you guys the exact questions and answers off the top of my head, but I studied this last night and I didn't take notes.
This is a guy who doesn't like coming off as unprepared. I have a feeling he'll draw up plans, contingency plans and contingency plans for his contingency plans. I was thoroughly impressed by his bearing and how he presented himself. I can totally understand how Mara and DG were shellshocked after his interview.
I would be curious to see a profile on McAdoo and Shurmur if you ever have a chance.
All that being said, it's not about his goals, but his ability to reach them. In that regard, we really have no clue. He's not bringing in an offensive or defensive system of his own. He has no record that shows his ability as a talent evaluator (whether we're talking coaches or players). I'm optimistic (as I usually am).
p.s.--But talk about young! He's 38, but looks more like 25. He probably still gets proofed at bars.
Judge mentioned attention to detail throughout his speech yesterday and it really resonated with me. This small but major factor is what's been missing from the last two regimes. Sloppy coaching, not prepared, out of position, poor technique.. etc.
He may never be a great, but if Judge learned one thing from the greats, I hope this is it. He seems extremely prepared and will leave no stone on turned in the name of preparation. Very refreshing.
I thought it was a good way for him to get someone to agree with what he was saying, kind of like nodding your head in an affirmative manner after saying something.
I thought it was a good way for him to get someone to agree with what he was saying, kind of like nodding your head in an affirmative manner after saying something.
No more questions from you, alright.
I second this request.
And why did he exclude Connecticut? Does he have a deep-rooted belief that it is Patriots territory?
I thought it was a good way for him to get someone to agree with what he was saying, kind of like nodding your head in an affirmative manner after saying something.
Public speaking can be an acquired skill and even experienced folks can have slightly annoying words or tics that are repeated. Me thinks JJ will review his presser in detail and you’ll see this stuff go away over time ... seriously, aside from super bowl weeks, how much did he talk to the press. If that’s his biggest weakness, I’m good.
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Judge saying O.K. multiple times throughout the PC after he said something?
I thought it was a good way for him to get someone to agree with what he was saying, kind of like nodding your head in an affirmative manner after saying something.
No more questions from you, alright.
Just one more question......When was the last time you removed the gerbils from your rectum to let them breathe?
Then again, his goal was restoring things for us hard working everyday blue collar guys!!
Regarding Shurmur's and MacAdoo's PC's, it's been a while. I can have another look, but I recall coming away unmoved. Gettleman's last presser was a bit of a disaster, but I didn't dissect it that closely. I'd be happy to have another, clinical look at these and report back.
I was under the impression using "okay" after a remark signaled some insecurity. That you weren't certain about what you said and needed confirmation by applying "okay"...
I would be curious to see a profile on McAdoo and Shurmur if you ever have a chance.
I wonder if their failure might create subconscious bias in any profile.
But I'm curious about your use of the phrase "off the cuff" in point one. The definition I just saw of it said "without preparation".
He was well prepared for everything thrown at him... IMO.
But I'm curious about your use of the phrase "off the cuff" in point one. The definition I just saw of it said "without preparation".
He was well prepared for everything thrown at him... IMO.
He was absolutely prepared for every question. But his rehearsed responses were short, usually 1-2 sentences long, and then he went into wider detail.
The yellow legal sheet you see him unfold at the beginning of the presser is the same paper he is pictured writing on during his plane ride into Teterboro. There's not much written on it. He memorized a LOT, but his mannerisms when extrapolating on his answers show that he is speaking from memory and experience.
For example (and I don't remember specifics, I'd have to actually take notes, which I didn't), you see him deliver a response. This is a rehearsed response, coming from memory. You then see a change in direction of his mannerism - a shift in facial expression, several repeated blinks, eye movement - his answer is then furthered from experience and his stored, long-term memory. The off-the-cuff response.
The fact that he was likely working with bullet points and memorized his initial responses to an assumed question set is impressive in itself.
This is my first post, and like the OP, I have appreciated reading the thoughts of folks like SY'56 and others.
I am halfway through an audio book called "Talking to Strangers" by Malcolm Gladwell, who does a deep dive into how we evaluate strangers.
I think the poster might find it an interesting read (as have I), and others here might as well.
I have found it very thought provoking.
As for Judge, I was as impressed as most here, and am hoping for the best!
Happy New Year to all!
But I'm curious about your use of the phrase "off the cuff" in point one. The definition I just saw of it said "without preparation". IMO.
I was gonna say, I want to see him handle the same question asked seven different ways.
All that being said, it's not about his goals, but his ability to reach them. In that regard, we really have no clue. He's not bringing in an offensive or defensive system of his own. He has no record that shows his ability as a talent evaluator (whether we're talking coaches or players). I'm optimistic (as I usually am).
p.s.--But talk about young! He's 38, but looks more like 25. He probably still gets proofed at bars.
I thought it was the least cliched PC of its kind I've ever seen. It wasn't just about being tough, it was also about empathy, teaching, treating players well, and hiring good people, not just good coaches.
I would aver that the 'not much written on it' [concur] and 'He memorized a LOT' are contradictory. I don't think he memorized, I think he's firing from his gut, and the bullet points are just signposts to ground him.
This goes back to your opening points: 1/preparedness/ 2/ off the cuff (that has to originate from a source/ and3/: maybe most importantly:
How often has Joe Judge gotten in front of a lectern in inarguably the most important point of his professional career and......faked it? I'd argue, never, and he didn't fake it.
Much authenticity there. I averred in the real time thread during the presser that the Giants have not had this force of personality since TC in his early years. He was made for this, age 38; BB saw it. So, while I might argue with some of your caveats, I concur with your conclusion!!
But I'm curious about your use of the phrase "off the cuff" in point one. The definition I just saw of it said "without preparation".
IMO JUDGE was prepared, extremely well, for just about any question he'd likely receive in a 30 min ask session.
He was well prepared for everything thrown at him.