#1 seed losing to a #6 seed. And not just losing, but being dominated. It doesn't have to get pinned all on Jackson, but this isn't like two evenly matched teams played and Baltimore simply came out on the bottom.
At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
What caused you to dislike Lamar Jackson so much? Is it a “I’m vindicated in predicting he wouldn’t be good” thing, or does he rub you the wrong way? Honestly curious.
I don’t dislike Lamar. What you’re seeing tonight and last year vs the Chargers is what I projected his draft year.
But you had some posters who were all about him and then wanted to suck their own dicks when he put up some wins and stats. So there’s some vindication there seeing him play like who I thought he was.
He’s an exciting player to watch with what he brings with his legs. There’s no denying that. It’s just premature and annoying that Joe Public is crowning this guy when he’s obviously limited as a passer at this point.
Well, after tonight you are at least partially vindicated for sure ... Playoff Lamar is not the same as regular season Lamar. This is gonna stick with him until he wins a playoff game.
Some spectacular runs and remarkable throws. Then there were throws that make Tim Tebow look good.
But it is true, he is good down the middle and comical to the sidelines..
Great! But it’s obvious Lamar being Lamar won’t win a championship. And if they have a few more playoff losses like this it will probably get Harbaugh fired, even though he saddled with a one dimensional QB. Is that the goal?
He’s 23 years old. He’s got some football left and probably a little bit of progression (we assume as much in our own players). There’s a pretty good shot there’s a championship in his future.
Great! But it’s obvious Lamar being Lamar won’t win a championship. And if they have a few more playoff losses like this it will probably get Harbaugh fired, even though he saddled with a one dimensional QB. Is that the goal?
He’s 23 years old. He’s got some football left and probably a little bit of progression (we assume as much in our own players). There’s a pretty good shot there’s a championship in his future.
I would bet against that. His deficiencies aren’t corrected with experience imv.
Vick was a better version of Lamar and never won a ring.
At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
What caused you to dislike Lamar Jackson so much? Is it a “I’m vindicated in predicting he wouldn’t be good” thing, or does he rub you the wrong way? Honestly curious.
I don’t dislike Lamar. What you’re seeing tonight and last year vs the Chargers is what I projected his draft year.
But you had some posters who were all about him and then wanted to suck their own dicks when he put up some wins and stats. So there’s some vindication there seeing him play like who I thought he was.
He’s an exciting player to watch with what he brings with his legs. There’s no denying that. It’s just premature and annoying that Joe Public is crowning this guy when he’s obviously limited as a passer at this point.
Well, after tonight you are at least partially vindicated for sure ... Playoff Lamar is not the same as regular season Lamar. This is gonna stick with him until he wins a playoff game.
It's bullshit though, like claiming that Daniel Jones is going to turn the ball over 9 out of ten games for the rest of his career.
I mean, every year 11 quarterbacks lose a playoff game. Some do multiple times. Some even lose multiple games well into their careers, not merely their first two seasons like Lamar. You can't simply deduce that the way they play makes it impossible for them to win one.
Also went to prison in his prime. Nobody knows what could have happened.
Spin it however you want but it is what it is.
Vick could’ve had a shot in a scheme tailored to him. He had a few good years w the Eagles at the tail end of his career. If he never went to jail he would’ve been stuck in ATL with a bad scheme. So who knows.
Lamar has everything tailored to him and it’s not good enough. You can only hide so much.
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My guess is the reason is analytics. Don't know the exact numbers but it was the reason Shurmur went for it down 8 vs. the Falcons. It doesn't look good when you fail on the first attempt.
It's def an analytics call
It's dumb then lol
Go for two when you get the score from 28-20 to 28-26.
Now they have to make two conversions, and if they miss one they're screwed.
They are essentially down 2 scores with six and change left....this game is not really over.
But that going for two makes it a huge difference now.
Not really. If you go for two at the end of the game and miss. Game over, you lose. If you miss at that point in the game, you still have the opportunity to make it up.
I'm in favor of going for two as early as possible instead of the last minute. It doesn't change the math at all, you still need a two, but at least if you miss it the first time, you have the opportunity to make it again.
It's bullshit though, like claiming that Daniel Jones is going to turn the ball over 9 out of ten games for the rest of his career.
I mean, every year 11 quarterbacks lose a playoff game. Some do multiple times. Some even lose multiple games well into their careers, not merely their first two seasons like Lamar. You can't simply deduce that the way they play makes it impossible for them to win one.
Tonight Lamar's legs kept the Ravens in the game, it wasn't his passing, even though he made a handful of really nice ones.
If he doesn't get better on the out routes, they will not advance in the playoffs.
He’s better than Vick imo. I’d go the other way and bet on him winning a SB. We’ll see but he will have his team in position to win championships a lot in January over the years. What everybody needs to remember is how young he is and his potential to get even better as a player.
Also went to prison in his prime. Nobody knows what could have happened.
Spin it however you want but it is what it is.
Vick could’ve had a shot in a scheme tailored to him. He had a few good years w the Eagles at the tail end of his career. If he never went to jail he would’ve been stuck in ATL with a bad scheme. So who knows.
Lamar has everything tailored to him and it’s not good enough. You can only hide so much.
Vick went to prison at 26 years old. Spent two years not playing football. He very well could have won a Super Bowl, and was a game away from one in his 4th season.
He’s better than Vick imo. I’d go the other way and bet on him winning a SB. We’ll see but he will have his team in position to win championships a lot in January over the years. What everybody needs to remember is how young he is and his potential to get even better as a player.
People thought the same about RG3. He was limited as a passer like Lamar too.
He’s better than Vick imo. I’d go the other way and bet on him winning a SB. We’ll see but he will have his team in position to win championships a lot in January over the years. What everybody needs to remember is how young he is and his potential to get even better as a player.
People thought the same about RG3. He was limited as a passer like Lamar too.
He’s better than Vick imo. I’d go the other way and bet on him winning a SB. We’ll see but he will have his team in position to win championships a lot in January over the years. What everybody needs to remember is how young he is and his potential to get even better as a player.
People thought the same about RG3. He was limited as a passer like Lamar too.
Lamar is a better passer and has had a lot more success than RG3, they’re really not that comparable. He’s much better at avoiding contact as well, which is what really sets him apart from most mobile QBs.
Also went to prison in his prime. Nobody knows what could have happened.
Spin it however you want but it is what it is.
Vick could’ve had a shot in a scheme tailored to him. He had a few good years w the Eagles at the tail end of his career. If he never went to jail he would’ve been stuck in ATL with a bad scheme. So who knows.
Lamar has everything tailored to him and it’s not good enough. You can only hide so much.
Vick went to prison at 26 years old. Spent two years not playing football. He very well could have won a Super Bowl, and was a game away from one in his 4th season.
He was way too limited a passer to win one. And when they beat GB in Lambeau, he had 117 yards passing. Not like he lit teams up.
is going to face matchups like this whenever the Ravens make the postseason.
Think of this - when is the last time a #1 seed was dominated in their first playoff game? A home game? And Jackson's performance is directly responsible for the loss.
Couch it however you want, but if you aren't very accurate throwing the ball, a lot of good teams will do what Tenn is doing tonight.
This Titans team is playing with supreme confidence right now.
The big colleges did not want him as a QB which is why he went to Louisville. He goes on to win the Heisman.
He was not drafted as a high first rounder. He will win the MVP most likely in his second year.
How many years was it till Peyton won his first playoff game?
The Titans outclassed the Ravens on both lines. If the Ravens build a better team around him, get him a better QB developer as a Coach and not ask him to do so much.........he has a good chance. I would not bet against this kid yet.
is going to face matchups like this whenever the Ravens make the postseason.
Think of this - when is the last time a #1 seed was dominated in their first playoff game? A home game? And Jackson's performance is directly responsible for the loss.
Couch it however you want, but if you aren't very accurate throwing the ball, a lot of good teams will do what Tenn is doing tonight.
2012 NYG at GB
Ah yes the game where Bill Leavy was responsible for more points than our opponent!
I don’t think so. I think Baltimore May be the easiest team to plan against because their passing game lacks big names so you may not have to worry about superstar WRs or TE. That way you could concentrate on stopping LJackson’s play options, which are many. If you are successful at doing this, you could take them down. I don’t believe Jackson can beat you with his arm, but only with his legs. So take out his legs and your chances for success skyrocket. I know easier said than done, but Tennessee has a pretty solid defense, so they could do it. I hope so.
We must’ve been watching a different Jackson all year. He can def beat you with his arm. He’s not the most accurate passer, but he’s streaky. Tennessee has to do their best to limit is rushing lanes and control the edges. Their focus from a passing perspective should be the middle of the field and force Jackson to throw outside the hashes.
I don’t think they have, defensively, the pieces to get it done. I’ve got Baltimore by 13
Well, I nailed the game plan, but I was wrong about Tennessee. They did have the pieces. Wow
Shows the importance of a great OL and great RB
Let's get an OL
And some of those “drops” were bad throws. He’s just not a good passer.
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Shows the importance of a great OL and great RB
Let's get an OL
fix ThE oLiNe
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At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
What caused you to dislike Lamar Jackson so much? Is it a “I’m vindicated in predicting he wouldn’t be good” thing, or does he rub you the wrong way? Honestly curious.
I don’t dislike Lamar. What you’re seeing tonight and last year vs the Chargers is what I projected his draft year.
But you had some posters who were all about him and then wanted to suck their own dicks when he put up some wins and stats. So there’s some vindication there seeing him play like who I thought he was.
He’s an exciting player to watch with what he brings with his legs. There’s no denying that. It’s just premature and annoying that Joe Public is crowning this guy when he’s obviously limited as a passer at this point.
Well, after tonight you are at least partially vindicated for sure ... Playoff Lamar is not the same as regular season Lamar. This is gonna stick with him until he wins a playoff game.
Bit everything Ravens is pure genius!
But it is true, he is good down the middle and comical to the sidelines..
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Great! But it’s obvious Lamar being Lamar won’t win a championship. And if they have a few more playoff losses like this it will probably get Harbaugh fired, even though he saddled with a one dimensional QB. Is that the goal?
He’s 23 years old. He’s got some football left and probably a little bit of progression (we assume as much in our own players). There’s a pretty good shot there’s a championship in his future.
Yeha and how many times in the last 5 years has the giants season been determined by week 10?
Ravens?
If he hits the market the Giants need to pay him whatever he wants.
At least they’re in the playoffs
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Great! But it’s obvious Lamar being Lamar won’t win a championship. And if they have a few more playoff losses like this it will probably get Harbaugh fired, even though he saddled with a one dimensional QB. Is that the goal?
He’s 23 years old. He’s got some football left and probably a little bit of progression (we assume as much in our own players). There’s a pretty good shot there’s a championship in his future.
I would bet against that. His deficiencies aren’t corrected with experience imv.
Vick was a better version of Lamar and never won a ring.
2 game combined: 15/29, 160 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT, 5.5YPA.
Some smart coach will make Tannehill beat them and attack Henry - run blitzes.
"We've all had enough!" - ( New Window )
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At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
What caused you to dislike Lamar Jackson so much? Is it a “I’m vindicated in predicting he wouldn’t be good” thing, or does he rub you the wrong way? Honestly curious.
I don’t dislike Lamar. What you’re seeing tonight and last year vs the Chargers is what I projected his draft year.
But you had some posters who were all about him and then wanted to suck their own dicks when he put up some wins and stats. So there’s some vindication there seeing him play like who I thought he was.
He’s an exciting player to watch with what he brings with his legs. There’s no denying that. It’s just premature and annoying that Joe Public is crowning this guy when he’s obviously limited as a passer at this point.
Well, after tonight you are at least partially vindicated for sure ... Playoff Lamar is not the same as regular season Lamar. This is gonna stick with him until he wins a playoff game.
It's bullshit though, like claiming that Daniel Jones is going to turn the ball over 9 out of ten games for the rest of his career.
I mean, every year 11 quarterbacks lose a playoff game. Some do multiple times. Some even lose multiple games well into their careers, not merely their first two seasons like Lamar. You can't simply deduce that the way they play makes it impossible for them to win one.
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Some smart coach will make Tannehill beat them and attack Henry - run blitzes.
they better hurry up...
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Spin it however you want but it is what it is.
Vick could’ve had a shot in a scheme tailored to him. He had a few good years w the Eagles at the tail end of his career. If he never went to jail he would’ve been stuck in ATL with a bad scheme. So who knows.
Lamar has everything tailored to him and it’s not good enough. You can only hide so much.
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....should have waited IMO.
My guess is the reason is analytics. Don't know the exact numbers but it was the reason Shurmur went for it down 8 vs. the Falcons. It doesn't look good when you fail on the first attempt.
It's def an analytics call
It's dumb then lol
Go for two when you get the score from 28-20 to 28-26.
Now they have to make two conversions, and if they miss one they're screwed.
They are essentially down 2 scores with six and change left....this game is not really over.
But that going for two makes it a huge difference now.
Not really. If you go for two at the end of the game and miss. Game over, you lose. If you miss at that point in the game, you still have the opportunity to make it up.
I'm in favor of going for two as early as possible instead of the last minute. It doesn't change the math at all, you still need a two, but at least if you miss it the first time, you have the opportunity to make it again.
It's bullshit though, like claiming that Daniel Jones is going to turn the ball over 9 out of ten games for the rest of his career.
I mean, every year 11 quarterbacks lose a playoff game. Some do multiple times. Some even lose multiple games well into their careers, not merely their first two seasons like Lamar. You can't simply deduce that the way they play makes it impossible for them to win one.
Tonight Lamar's legs kept the Ravens in the game, it wasn't his passing, even though he made a handful of really nice ones.
If he doesn't get better on the out routes, they will not advance in the playoffs.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Can it be because they run the ball and stop the other team from running?
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Really wishing we'd have interviewed Vrabel.
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Also went to prison in his prime. Nobody knows what could have happened.
Spin it however you want but it is what it is.
Vick could’ve had a shot in a scheme tailored to him. He had a few good years w the Eagles at the tail end of his career. If he never went to jail he would’ve been stuck in ATL with a bad scheme. So who knows.
Lamar has everything tailored to him and it’s not good enough. You can only hide so much.
Vick went to prison at 26 years old. Spent two years not playing football. He very well could have won a Super Bowl, and was a game away from one in his 4th season.
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Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Really wishing we'd have interviewed Vrabel.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Patriots and Ravens got beat on their home field by a team with a QB that completed only 15 passes in two games?
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Really wishing we'd have interviewed Vrabel.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
They should never have let Tom Landry, Vince Lombardi and Bill Belichick get away either...
People thought the same about RG3. He was limited as a passer like Lamar too.
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He’s better than Vick imo. I’d go the other way and bet on him winning a SB. We’ll see but he will have his team in position to win championships a lot in January over the years. What everybody needs to remember is how young he is and his potential to get even better as a player.
People thought the same about RG3. He was limited as a passer like Lamar too.
Nobody thought RG3 was better than Vick.
Facts at facts. Deal with it.
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He’s better than Vick imo. I’d go the other way and bet on him winning a SB. We’ll see but he will have his team in position to win championships a lot in January over the years. What everybody needs to remember is how young he is and his potential to get even better as a player.
People thought the same about RG3. He was limited as a passer like Lamar too.
Lamar is a better passer and has had a lot more success than RG3, they’re really not that comparable. He’s much better at avoiding contact as well, which is what really sets him apart from most mobile QBs.
Facts at facts. Deal with it.
He’s about to win league MVP in his second year.
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Also went to prison in his prime. Nobody knows what could have happened.
Spin it however you want but it is what it is.
Vick could’ve had a shot in a scheme tailored to him. He had a few good years w the Eagles at the tail end of his career. If he never went to jail he would’ve been stuck in ATL with a bad scheme. So who knows.
Lamar has everything tailored to him and it’s not good enough. You can only hide so much.
Vick went to prison at 26 years old. Spent two years not playing football. He very well could have won a Super Bowl, and was a game away from one in his 4th season.
He was way too limited a passer to win one. And when they beat GB in Lambeau, he had 117 yards passing. Not like he lit teams up.
Think of this - when is the last time a #1 seed was dominated in their first playoff game? A home game? And Jackson's performance is directly responsible for the loss.
Couch it however you want, but if you aren't very accurate throwing the ball, a lot of good teams will do what Tenn is doing tonight.
2012 NYG at GB
This Titans team is playing with supreme confidence right now.
The big colleges did not want him as a QB which is why he went to Louisville. He goes on to win the Heisman.
He was not drafted as a high first rounder. He will win the MVP most likely in his second year.
How many years was it till Peyton won his first playoff game?
The Titans outclassed the Ravens on both lines. If the Ravens build a better team around him, get him a better QB developer as a Coach and not ask him to do so much.........he has a good chance. I would not bet against this kid yet.
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is going to face matchups like this whenever the Ravens make the postseason.
Think of this - when is the last time a #1 seed was dominated in their first playoff game? A home game? And Jackson's performance is directly responsible for the loss.
Couch it however you want, but if you aren't very accurate throwing the ball, a lot of good teams will do what Tenn is doing tonight.
2012 NYG at GB
Ah yes the game where Bill Leavy was responsible for more points than our opponent!
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I don’t think so. I think Baltimore May be the easiest team to plan against because their passing game lacks big names so you may not have to worry about superstar WRs or TE. That way you could concentrate on stopping LJackson’s play options, which are many. If you are successful at doing this, you could take them down. I don’t believe Jackson can beat you with his arm, but only with his legs. So take out his legs and your chances for success skyrocket. I know easier said than done, but Tennessee has a pretty solid defense, so they could do it. I hope so.
We must’ve been watching a different Jackson all year. He can def beat you with his arm. He’s not the most accurate passer, but he’s streaky. Tennessee has to do their best to limit is rushing lanes and control the edges. Their focus from a passing perspective should be the middle of the field and force Jackson to throw outside the hashes.
I don’t think they have, defensively, the pieces to get it done. I’ve got Baltimore by 13
Well, I nailed the game plan, but I was wrong about Tennessee. They did have the pieces. Wow