A good defensive team will negate any QB. The Vikings held Brees to 6.3 YPA.
They are forcing him to throw the ball. Put it this way - the Ravens are the #1 seed, and they got there by running the ball. Force Jackson to pass and they don't even resemble a playoff team.
Reposting the thread of the SD game doesn't seem to be so hilarious as it was last week when people were patting themselves on the back discussing Jackson's greatness.
Jackson beat teams with his arm during the regular season. The Titans aren’t winning because they’re forcing him to pass. They’re beating them because they’re taking away the middle of the field, which has been the bread and butter of the Ravens passing game all season.
Jackson still has a lot of growing to do but this game is more of a reflection on Harbaugh than if Lamar is good like some on this thread suggest. Ryan Tannehill isn’t a better passer than Lamar, there’s years of data proving that.
I guess "Today's NFL" isn't all it's cracked up to be. Maybe those Ivy League analytics guys can come down on the field to block and tackle.
Ah yes, nothing like taking a small sample size and using it to justify anything
Yeah just like how all the MLB teams are going back to valuing AVG and abandoning launch velo and angle just because the Nationals won the WS *eye roll*
I wasn't interested in Greg Roman either unless he was bringing the offensive line with him. Even then I don't want 4.8 Daniel Jones running the read option.
His offensive line got the shit kicked out of it too.
I guess "Today's NFL" isn't all it's cracked up to be. Maybe those Ivy League analytics guys can come down on the field to block and tackle.
Ah yes, nothing like taking a small sample size and using it to justify anything
Yeah just like how all the MLB teams are going back to valuing AVG and abandoning launch velo and angle just because the Nationals won the WS *eye roll*
Hey we're talking about football in here. Take you statistics back to lab, geek.
A good defensive team will negate any QB. The Vikings held Brees to 6.3 YPA.
They are forcing him to throw the ball. Put it this way - the Ravens are the #1 seed, and they got there by running the ball. Force Jackson to pass and they don't even resemble a playoff team.
Reposting the thread of the SD game doesn't seem to be so hilarious as it was last week when people were patting themselves on the back discussing Jackson's greatness.
Jackson beat teams with his arm during the regular season. The Titans aren’t winning because they’re forcing him to pass. They’re beating them because they’re taking away the middle of the field, which has been the bread and butter of the Ravens passing game all season.
Jackson still has a lot of growing to do but this game is more of a reflection on Harbaugh than if Lamar is good like some on this thread suggest. Ryan Tannehill isn’t a better passer than Lamar, there’s years of data proving that.
You're just not watching if you don't think this is because of Jackson. He has two Insta on horrible passes and a fumble showing little pocket awareness. Titans plan was to keep him in pocket and it has worked. Saying otherwise is just to try and fit your narrative that he isn't a bad passer. Jackson is fucking electric but as a runner. He doesn't make enough plays from pocket.
At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
Lol. It's barely debatable. Jackson is electric but as a runner. He leaves alot to be desired as a passer and as many say it's hard to teach accuracy....
in the playoffs, you are facing good teams every week that are gameplanning.
Jackson beat a lot of teams this year that weren't good enough to force him to throw. And we aren't talking great defenses - just ones that can make him one-dimensional. It is likely he'll have lost to two teams that won't have made it past the next game after beating the Ravens.
A good defensive team will negate any QB. The Vikings held Brees to 6.3 YPA.
They are forcing him to throw the ball. Put it this way - the Ravens are the #1 seed, and they got there by running the ball. Force Jackson to pass and they don't even resemble a playoff team.
Reposting the thread of the SD game doesn't seem to be so hilarious as it was last week when people were patting themselves on the back discussing Jackson's greatness.
Jackson beat teams with his arm during the regular season. The Titans aren’t winning because they’re forcing him to pass. They’re beating them because they’re taking away the middle of the field, which has been the bread and butter of the Ravens passing game all season.
Jackson still has a lot of growing to do but this game is more of a reflection on Harbaugh than if Lamar is good like some on this thread suggest. Ryan Tannehill isn’t a better passer than Lamar, there’s years of data proving that.
You're just not watching if you don't think this is because of Jackson. He has two Insta on horrible passes and a fumble showing little pocket awareness. Titans plan was to keep him in pocket and it has worked. Saying otherwise is just to try and fit your narrative that he isn't a bad passer. Jackson is fucking electric but as a runner. He doesn't make enough plays from pocket.
He threw 36 touchdown passes. He makes plenty of plays with his arm.
Like I said, he’s far from perfect as a passer but he’s not the albatross from the pocket some are making him out to be to fit their narratives. Two games against teams that had perfect game plans and executed them don’t prove anything.
A good defensive team will negate any QB. The Vikings held Brees to 6.3 YPA.
They are forcing him to throw the ball. Put it this way - the Ravens are the #1 seed, and they got there by running the ball. Force Jackson to pass and they don't even resemble a playoff team.
Reposting the thread of the SD game doesn't seem to be so hilarious as it was last week when people were patting themselves on the back discussing Jackson's greatness.
Jackson beat teams with his arm during the regular season. The Titans aren’t winning because they’re forcing him to pass. They’re beating them because they’re taking away the middle of the field, which has been the bread and butter of the Ravens passing game all season.
Jackson still has a lot of growing to do but this game is more of a reflection on Harbaugh than if Lamar is good like some on this thread suggest. Ryan Tannehill isn’t a better passer than Lamar, there’s years of data proving that.
You're just not watching if you don't think this is because of Jackson. He has two Insta on horrible passes and a fumble showing little pocket awareness. Titans plan was to keep him in pocket and it has worked. Saying otherwise is just to try and fit your narrative that he isn't a bad passer. Jackson is fucking electric but as a runner. He doesn't make enough plays from pocket.
He threw 36 touchdown passes. He makes plenty of plays with his arm.
Like I said, he’s far from perfect as a passer but he’s not the albatross from the pocket some are making him out to be to fit their narratives. Two games against teams that had perfect game plans and executed them don’t prove anything.
Still the 27th passing offense in football....
I'm not saying he can't win but he isn't close to the perfect QB many have made him out to be. He is inaccurate
in the playoffs, you are facing good teams every week that are gameplanning.
Jackson beat a lot of teams this year that weren't good enough to force him to throw. And we aren't talking great defenses - just ones that can make him one-dimensional. It is likely he'll have lost to two teams that won't have made it past the next game after beating the Ravens.
The Titans made Tom Brady look like a poor passer last week, maybe their defense is just really good and really well coached?
At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
What caused you to dislike Lamar Jackson so much? Is it a “I’m vindicated in predicting he wouldn’t be good” thing, or does he rub you the wrong way? Honestly curious.
At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
Lol. It's barely debatable. Jackson is electric but as a runner. He leaves alot to be desired as a passer and as many say it's hard to teach accuracy....
I agree. He’s definitely electric as a runner. That’s not good enough in the playoffs.
Vick had limitations as a passer but he looks like Peyton Manning next to Lamar. That’s how bad Lamar is as a pocket passer.
Like I said, he’s far from perfect as a passer but he’s not the albatross from the pocket some are making him out to be to fit their narratives. Two games against teams that had perfect game plans and executed them don’t prove anything.
They aren't "perfect gameplans". They are making Jackson have to throw the ball. And he's failing at that. This is what you get in the postseason. You aren't rolling up 6TD's against Miami
Like I said, he’s far from perfect as a passer but he’s not the albatross from the pocket some are making him out to be to fit their narratives. Two games against teams that had perfect game plans and executed them don’t prove anything.
They aren't "perfect gameplans". They are making Jackson have to throw the ball. And he's failing at that. This is what you get in the postseason. You aren't rolling up 6TD's against Miami
Making him pass outside the hashes, not just making him pass. The Ravens passing offense was a nightmare to defend in the middle of the field all season.
Why do these fucking refs continue to blow the play dead when a defender jumps offsides. Yet, if it were Aaron Rodgers, they would keep it alive and let him heave the ball 60 yards down field for a free play?
My guess is the reason is analytics. Don't know the exact numbers but it was the reason Shurmur went for it down 8 vs. the Falcons. It doesn't look good when you fail on the first attempt.
My guess is the reason is analytics. Don't know the exact numbers but it was the reason Shurmur went for it down 8 vs. the Falcons. It doesn't look good when you fail on the first attempt.
My guess is the reason is analytics. Don't know the exact numbers but it was the reason Shurmur went for it down 8 vs. the Falcons. It doesn't look good when you fail on the first attempt.
It's def an analytics call
It's dumb then lol
Go for two when you get the score from 28-20 to 28-26.
Now they have to make two conversions, and if they miss one they're screwed.
They are essentially down 2 scores with six and change left....this game is not really over.
But that going for two makes it a huge difference now.
My guess is the reason is analytics. Don't know the exact numbers but it was the reason Shurmur went for it down 8 vs. the Falcons. It doesn't look good when you fail on the first attempt.
It's def an analytics call
Agreed. There was an article about Doug Pederson and going for two around the time Shurmur did that against the Falcons. It worked for Shurmur except the defense gave up another score.
is going to face matchups like this whenever the Ravens make the postseason.
Think of this - when is the last time a #1 seed was dominated in their first playoff game? A home game? And Jackson's performance is directly responsible for the loss.
Couch it however you want, but if you aren't very accurate throwing the ball, a lot of good teams will do what Tenn is doing tonight.
He did not have a good game throwing today though. Titans defense is the biggest surprise of the playoffs so far, they were basically just okay during the season but have been lights out the last two weeks.
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is going to face matchups like this whenever the Ravens make the postseason.
Think of this - when is the last time a #1 seed was dominated in their first playoff game? A home game? And Jackson's performance is directly responsible for the loss.
Couch it however you want, but if you aren't very accurate throwing the ball, a lot of good teams will do what Tenn is doing tonight.
Agree. He is exciting as a runner tho wow
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I guess "Today's NFL" isn't all it's cracked up to be. Maybe those Ivy League analytics guys can come down on the field to block and tackle.
Ah yes, nothing like taking a small sample size and using it to justify anything
Yeah just like how all the MLB teams are going back to valuing AVG and abandoning launch velo and angle just because the Nationals won the WS *eye roll*
Hey we're talking about football in here. Take you statistics back to lab, geek.
Teams in every sport use analytics. Baseball is just the furthest along and has the most available to the public
Normally I would agree, but after failing on the two point conversion, he is still within two TDs and two 2-point conversions from tying the score. And if he was successful, he knows he only needs two TDs and to kick the extra point for each. But if he kicked the extra point on that TD and then waited until scoring the TD that put them within two points, he only gets one crack at the 2-point conversion. This way he gets two out of three shots rather than needing to go one for one.
At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
What caused you to dislike Lamar Jackson so much? Is it a “I’m vindicated in predicting he wouldn’t be good” thing, or does he rub you the wrong way? Honestly curious.
I don’t dislike Lamar. What you’re seeing tonight and last year vs the Chargers is what I projected his draft year.
But you had some posters who were all about him and then wanted to suck their own dicks when he put up some wins and stats. So there’s some vindication there seeing him play like who I thought he was.
He’s an exciting player to watch with what he brings with his legs. There’s no denying that. It’s just premature and annoying that Joe Public is crowning this guy when he’s obviously limited as a passer at this point.
My guess is the reason is analytics. Don't know the exact numbers but it was the reason Shurmur went for it down 8 vs. the Falcons. It doesn't look good when you fail on the first attempt.
It's def an analytics call
It's dumb then lol
Go for two when you get the score from 28-20 to 28-26.
Now they have to make two conversions, and if they miss one they're screwed.
They are essentially down 2 scores with six and change left....this game is not really over.
But that going for two makes it a huge difference now.
The theory is the odds are you’ll make two two point conversions more often than missing two of three and if you make the first two you can win the game with a third
Miami knocks off New England in Week 17 to give him a bye, and Tennessee knocks off Baltimore to give him home field advantage. Can he finally get his ring?
Normally I would agree, but after failing on the two point conversion, he is still within two TDs and two 2-point conversions from tying the score. And if he was successful, he knows he only needs two TDs and to kick the extra point for each. But if he kicked the extra point on that TD and then waited until scoring the TD that put them within two points, he only gets one crack at the 2-point conversion. This way he gets two out of three shots rather than needing to go one for one.
It's kind of like the Monty Hall brainteaser (but not really)... from wikipedia - ( New Window )
At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
What caused you to dislike Lamar Jackson so much? Is it a “I’m vindicated in predicting he wouldn’t be good” thing, or does he rub you the wrong way? Honestly curious.
I don’t dislike Lamar. What you’re seeing tonight and last year vs the Chargers is what I projected his draft year.
But you had some posters who were all about him and then wanted to suck their own dicks when he put up some wins and stats. So there’s some vindication there seeing him play like who I thought he was.
He’s an exciting player to watch with what he brings with his legs. There’s no denying that. It’s just premature and annoying that Joe Public is crowning this guy when he’s obviously limited as a passer at this point.
“Some wins”. He went 19-4 over his first 23 starts including the playoffs.
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A good defensive team will negate any QB. The Vikings held Brees to 6.3 YPA.
They are forcing him to throw the ball. Put it this way - the Ravens are the #1 seed, and they got there by running the ball. Force Jackson to pass and they don't even resemble a playoff team.
Reposting the thread of the SD game doesn't seem to be so hilarious as it was last week when people were patting themselves on the back discussing Jackson's greatness.
Jackson beat teams with his arm during the regular season. The Titans aren’t winning because they’re forcing him to pass. They’re beating them because they’re taking away the middle of the field, which has been the bread and butter of the Ravens passing game all season.
Jackson still has a lot of growing to do but this game is more of a reflection on Harbaugh than if Lamar is good like some on this thread suggest. Ryan Tannehill isn’t a better passer than Lamar, there’s years of data proving that.
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I guess "Today's NFL" isn't all it's cracked up to be. Maybe those Ivy League analytics guys can come down on the field to block and tackle.
Ah yes, nothing like taking a small sample size and using it to justify anything
Yeah just like how all the MLB teams are going back to valuing AVG and abandoning launch velo and angle just because the Nationals won the WS *eye roll*
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Ravens 6 points.
Imagine hiring Greg Roman coming off this game?
I wasn't interested in Greg Roman either unless he was bringing the offensive line with him. Even then I don't want 4.8 Daniel Jones running the read option.
His offensive line got the shit kicked out of it too.
And I take every one of their starters over ours.
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I guess "Today's NFL" isn't all it's cracked up to be. Maybe those Ivy League analytics guys can come down on the field to block and tackle.
Ah yes, nothing like taking a small sample size and using it to justify anything
Yeah just like how all the MLB teams are going back to valuing AVG and abandoning launch velo and angle just because the Nationals won the WS *eye roll*
Hey we're talking about football in here. Take you statistics back to lab, geek.
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A good defensive team will negate any QB. The Vikings held Brees to 6.3 YPA.
They are forcing him to throw the ball. Put it this way - the Ravens are the #1 seed, and they got there by running the ball. Force Jackson to pass and they don't even resemble a playoff team.
Reposting the thread of the SD game doesn't seem to be so hilarious as it was last week when people were patting themselves on the back discussing Jackson's greatness.
Jackson beat teams with his arm during the regular season. The Titans aren’t winning because they’re forcing him to pass. They’re beating them because they’re taking away the middle of the field, which has been the bread and butter of the Ravens passing game all season.
Jackson still has a lot of growing to do but this game is more of a reflection on Harbaugh than if Lamar is good like some on this thread suggest. Ryan Tannehill isn’t a better passer than Lamar, there’s years of data proving that.
You're just not watching if you don't think this is because of Jackson. He has two Insta on horrible passes and a fumble showing little pocket awareness. Titans plan was to keep him in pocket and it has worked. Saying otherwise is just to try and fit your narrative that he isn't a bad passer. Jackson is fucking electric but as a runner. He doesn't make enough plays from pocket.
Lol. It's barely debatable. Jackson is electric but as a runner. He leaves alot to be desired as a passer and as many say it's hard to teach accuracy....
Jackson beat a lot of teams this year that weren't good enough to force him to throw. And we aren't talking great defenses - just ones that can make him one-dimensional. It is likely he'll have lost to two teams that won't have made it past the next game after beating the Ravens.
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is a little different with Jackson:
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A good defensive team will negate any QB. The Vikings held Brees to 6.3 YPA.
They are forcing him to throw the ball. Put it this way - the Ravens are the #1 seed, and they got there by running the ball. Force Jackson to pass and they don't even resemble a playoff team.
Reposting the thread of the SD game doesn't seem to be so hilarious as it was last week when people were patting themselves on the back discussing Jackson's greatness.
Jackson beat teams with his arm during the regular season. The Titans aren’t winning because they’re forcing him to pass. They’re beating them because they’re taking away the middle of the field, which has been the bread and butter of the Ravens passing game all season.
Jackson still has a lot of growing to do but this game is more of a reflection on Harbaugh than if Lamar is good like some on this thread suggest. Ryan Tannehill isn’t a better passer than Lamar, there’s years of data proving that.
You're just not watching if you don't think this is because of Jackson. He has two Insta on horrible passes and a fumble showing little pocket awareness. Titans plan was to keep him in pocket and it has worked. Saying otherwise is just to try and fit your narrative that he isn't a bad passer. Jackson is fucking electric but as a runner. He doesn't make enough plays from pocket.
He threw 36 touchdown passes. He makes plenty of plays with his arm.
Like I said, he’s far from perfect as a passer but he’s not the albatross from the pocket some are making him out to be to fit their narratives. Two games against teams that had perfect game plans and executed them don’t prove anything.
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is a little different with Jackson:
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A good defensive team will negate any QB. The Vikings held Brees to 6.3 YPA.
They are forcing him to throw the ball. Put it this way - the Ravens are the #1 seed, and they got there by running the ball. Force Jackson to pass and they don't even resemble a playoff team.
Reposting the thread of the SD game doesn't seem to be so hilarious as it was last week when people were patting themselves on the back discussing Jackson's greatness.
Jackson beat teams with his arm during the regular season. The Titans aren’t winning because they’re forcing him to pass. They’re beating them because they’re taking away the middle of the field, which has been the bread and butter of the Ravens passing game all season.
Jackson still has a lot of growing to do but this game is more of a reflection on Harbaugh than if Lamar is good like some on this thread suggest. Ryan Tannehill isn’t a better passer than Lamar, there’s years of data proving that.
You're just not watching if you don't think this is because of Jackson. He has two Insta on horrible passes and a fumble showing little pocket awareness. Titans plan was to keep him in pocket and it has worked. Saying otherwise is just to try and fit your narrative that he isn't a bad passer. Jackson is fucking electric but as a runner. He doesn't make enough plays from pocket.
He threw 36 touchdown passes. He makes plenty of plays with his arm.
Like I said, he’s far from perfect as a passer but he’s not the albatross from the pocket some are making him out to be to fit their narratives. Two games against teams that had perfect game plans and executed them don’t prove anything.
Still the 27th passing offense in football....
I'm not saying he can't win but he isn't close to the perfect QB many have made him out to be. He is inaccurate
Jackson beat a lot of teams this year that weren't good enough to force him to throw. And we aren't talking great defenses - just ones that can make him one-dimensional. It is likely he'll have lost to two teams that won't have made it past the next game after beating the Ravens.
The Titans made Tom Brady look like a poor passer last week, maybe their defense is just really good and really well coached?
What caused you to dislike Lamar Jackson so much? Is it a “I’m vindicated in predicting he wouldn’t be good” thing, or does he rub you the wrong way? Honestly curious.
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At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
Lol. It's barely debatable. Jackson is electric but as a runner. He leaves alot to be desired as a passer and as many say it's hard to teach accuracy....
I agree. He’s definitely electric as a runner. That’s not good enough in the playoffs.
Vick had limitations as a passer but he looks like Peyton Manning next to Lamar. That’s how bad Lamar is as a pocket passer.
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At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
What caused you to dislike Lamar Jackson so much? Is it a “I’m vindicated in predicting he wouldn’t be good” thing
Oh come on, of course it is that.
They aren't "perfect gameplans". They are making Jackson have to throw the ball. And he's failing at that. This is what you get in the postseason. You aren't rolling up 6TD's against Miami
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Like I said, he’s far from perfect as a passer but he’s not the albatross from the pocket some are making him out to be to fit their narratives. Two games against teams that had perfect game plans and executed them don’t prove anything.
They aren't "perfect gameplans". They are making Jackson have to throw the ball. And he's failing at that. This is what you get in the postseason. You aren't rolling up 6TD's against Miami
Making him pass outside the hashes, not just making him pass. The Ravens passing offense was a nightmare to defend in the middle of the field all season.
Is there a rule I’m missing? I’m sure there is
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At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
What caused you to dislike Lamar Jackson so much? Is it a “I’m vindicated in predicting he wouldn’t be good” thing
Oh come on, of course it is that.
Sheesh.
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Damn impressive.
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....should have waited IMO.
My guess is the reason is analytics. Don't know the exact numbers but it was the reason Shurmur went for it down 8 vs. the Falcons. It doesn't look good when you fail on the first attempt.
It's def an analytics call
Amazing that he was stuck behind Dion Lewis ... this an all-time great run.
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....should have waited IMO.
My guess is the reason is analytics. Don't know the exact numbers but it was the reason Shurmur went for it down 8 vs. the Falcons. It doesn't look good when you fail on the first attempt.
It's def an analytics call
It's dumb then lol
Go for two when you get the score from 28-20 to 28-26.
Now they have to make two conversions, and if they miss one they're screwed.
They are essentially down 2 scores with six and change left....this game is not really over.
But that going for two makes it a huge difference now.
Evidently doesn't know that he's blowing/wasting TOs by calling them before the last two minutes and that only Pat Shurmur does that.
Sounds disgusting
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....should have waited IMO.
My guess is the reason is analytics. Don't know the exact numbers but it was the reason Shurmur went for it down 8 vs. the Falcons. It doesn't look good when you fail on the first attempt.
It's def an analytics call
Think of this - when is the last time a #1 seed was dominated in their first playoff game? A home game? And Jackson's performance is directly responsible for the loss.
Couch it however you want, but if you aren't very accurate throwing the ball, a lot of good teams will do what Tenn is doing tonight.
Amazing that he was stuck behind Dion Lewis ... this an all-time great run.
DeMarco Murray
Think of this - when is the last time a #1 seed was dominated in their first playoff game? A home game? And Jackson's performance is directly responsible for the loss.
Couch it however you want, but if you aren't very accurate throwing the ball, a lot of good teams will do what Tenn is doing tonight.
Agree. He is exciting as a runner tho wow
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I guess "Today's NFL" isn't all it's cracked up to be. Maybe those Ivy League analytics guys can come down on the field to block and tackle.
Ah yes, nothing like taking a small sample size and using it to justify anything
Yeah just like how all the MLB teams are going back to valuing AVG and abandoning launch velo and angle just because the Nationals won the WS *eye roll*
Hey we're talking about football in here. Take you statistics back to lab, geek.
Teams in every sport use analytics. Baseball is just the furthest along and has the most available to the public
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....should have waited IMO.
It's kind of like the Monty Hall brainteaser (but not really)...
from wikipedia - ( New Window )
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At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
What caused you to dislike Lamar Jackson so much? Is it a “I’m vindicated in predicting he wouldn’t be good” thing, or does he rub you the wrong way? Honestly curious.
I don’t dislike Lamar. What you’re seeing tonight and last year vs the Chargers is what I projected his draft year.
But you had some posters who were all about him and then wanted to suck their own dicks when he put up some wins and stats. So there’s some vindication there seeing him play like who I thought he was.
He’s an exciting player to watch with what he brings with his legs. There’s no denying that. It’s just premature and annoying that Joe Public is crowning this guy when he’s obviously limited as a passer at this point.
I'm with you DK.....
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....should have waited IMO.
My guess is the reason is analytics. Don't know the exact numbers but it was the reason Shurmur went for it down 8 vs. the Falcons. It doesn't look good when you fail on the first attempt.
It's def an analytics call
It's dumb then lol
Go for two when you get the score from 28-20 to 28-26.
Now they have to make two conversions, and if they miss one they're screwed.
They are essentially down 2 scores with six and change left....this game is not really over.
But that going for two makes it a huge difference now.
The theory is the odds are you’ll make two two point conversions more often than missing two of three and if you make the first two you can win the game with a third
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....should have waited IMO.
Normally I would agree, but after failing on the two point conversion, he is still within two TDs and two 2-point conversions from tying the score. And if he was successful, he knows he only needs two TDs and to kick the extra point for each. But if he kicked the extra point on that TD and then waited until scoring the TD that put them within two points, he only gets one crack at the 2-point conversion. This way he gets two out of three shots rather than needing to go one for one.
It's kind of like the Monty Hall brainteaser (but not really)... from wikipedia - ( New Window )
Good stuff, Milty.
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At least your boy is rolling up junk stats so you have some shitty stat argument to lean on when people’s memory fades on this ass kicking.
What caused you to dislike Lamar Jackson so much? Is it a “I’m vindicated in predicting he wouldn’t be good” thing, or does he rub you the wrong way? Honestly curious.
I don’t dislike Lamar. What you’re seeing tonight and last year vs the Chargers is what I projected his draft year.
But you had some posters who were all about him and then wanted to suck their own dicks when he put up some wins and stats. So there’s some vindication there seeing him play like who I thought he was.
He’s an exciting player to watch with what he brings with his legs. There’s no denying that. It’s just premature and annoying that Joe Public is crowning this guy when he’s obviously limited as a passer at this point.
“Some wins”. He went 19-4 over his first 23 starts including the playoffs.