that's football. While far from many more vicious incidents of head hunting, it had it's intended effect. The NFL needs to decide what they want to do, and be more consistent.
it was dirty and the intent was to knock CW out of the game. After that, I couldn't root for a team that took the other teams star out and did it with intent.
I rooted for the Eagles from that point forwards.... and truly dislike the Eagles (and HATE the Cowboys).
it was dirty and the intent was to knock CW out of the game. After that, I couldn't root for a team that took the other teams star out and did it with intent.
I rooted for the Eagles from that point forwards.... and truly dislike the Eagles (and HATE the Cowboys).
Whoa!... Let's not get crazy here!
I see him leading with his shoulder and trying.... Â
I don’t know how people are imputing Clowney’s thoughts, ie: a clear intent to knock him out of the game. Seems awfully speculative and the league agrees. I’m in the minority here, but I don’t see it as a terribly egregious play.
still completely miss that Wentz actually took he Clowney's legs out as he was going down? He did not intentionally lead with his helmet. Watch it again for fucks sake.
RE: RE: I was rooting for the Seahawks until that hit Â
In comment 14773346 SirLoinOfBeef said:
Whoa!... Let's not get crazy here! [/quote]
Crazy? Being an Eagle sympathizer and even going as far as wanting them to win playoff games and even Super Bowls is a fixed routine around these parts.
still completely miss that Wentz actually took he Clowney's legs out as he was going down? He did not intentionally lead with his helmet. Watch it again for fucks sake.
they asked themselves two questions - was this "helmet to helmet", and/or was the hit late?
The answer to both is no.
Helmet to helmet penalties are only called when it occurs against a defenseless receiver, against a QB in the pocket, or when there is a forceful impact. Wentz was a runner out of the pocket, so the first two don't apply.
It's debatable whether the hit to the head could be considered forceful, but in general the type of hits that we're talking about with regard to being fineable are those where you hear a loud "crack" or see paint flying off of the helmet. It wasn't that kind of hit.
Was the hit late? Clowney was maybe about a step late. I think people get caught up with watching the replay in slow motion - at full speed it was a pretty bang bang play. That's aside from the fact that Wentz was not diving to give himself up, and that he wasn't actually yet down by contact when contact was made with him in mid air.
I think a lot of people's judgement on this, especially Eagles fans, are being clouded by the end result of the play and by the person who was involved.
He got fined for that? I don't know what's more insulting - the actual flag or the fine...
I rooted for the Eagles from that point forwards.... and truly dislike the Eagles (and HATE the Cowboys).
+1
I rooted for the Eagles from that point forwards.... and truly dislike the Eagles (and HATE the Cowboys).
Whoa!... Let's not get crazy here!
Whoa!... Let's not get crazy here! [/quote]
Crazy? Being an Eagle sympathizer and even going as far as wanting them to win playoff games and even Super Bowls is a fixed routine around these parts.
And go out and sign Clowney. LFG.
Agree. I do not think it was dirty.
The answer to both is no.
Helmet to helmet penalties are only called when it occurs against a defenseless receiver, against a QB in the pocket, or when there is a forceful impact. Wentz was a runner out of the pocket, so the first two don't apply.
It's debatable whether the hit to the head could be considered forceful, but in general the type of hits that we're talking about with regard to being fineable are those where you hear a loud "crack" or see paint flying off of the helmet. It wasn't that kind of hit.
Was the hit late? Clowney was maybe about a step late. I think people get caught up with watching the replay in slow motion - at full speed it was a pretty bang bang play. That's aside from the fact that Wentz was not diving to give himself up, and that he wasn't actually yet down by contact when contact was made with him in mid air.
I think a lot of people's judgement on this, especially Eagles fans, are being clouded by the end result of the play and by the person who was involved.