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No Fine for Jadeveon Clowney for Hit on Wentz

St. Jimmy : 1/11/2020 1:11 pm
The NFL decided Jadeveon Clowney's hit on Carson Wentz did not warrant a fine. This pisses Eagle fans off which is good thing.
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We’d be mad too  
Saquads26 : 1/11/2020 1:18 pm : link
He led with his helmet and knocked him out of the game. Seemed dirty to me.
Thats surprising.  
j_rud : 1/11/2020 1:22 pm : link
Intentional or not the league has fined people for similar hits.
Philly fans should recognize that type of play  
Jimmy Googs : 1/11/2020 1:25 pm : link
from their own Brian Dawkins...
But the Bills OL  
GiantsRage2007 : 1/11/2020 1:33 pm : link
Cody Ford got fined $28,075 for that weak ass called "blindside" block vs the Texans. Smh.
It was blatant, but . . . .  
TC : 1/11/2020 1:40 pm : link
that's football. While far from many more vicious incidents of head hunting, it had it's intended effect. The NFL needs to decide what they want to do, and be more consistent.
Sorry guys intentional or not  
joeinpa : 1/11/2020 1:50 pm : link
That hit fit the profile of plays they have tried to legislate from the game.
RE: But the Bills OL  
bw in dc : 1/11/2020 1:53 pm : link
In comment 14773261 GiantsRage2007 said:
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Cody Ford got fined $28,075 for that weak ass called "blindside" block vs the Texans. Smh.


He got fined for that? I don't know what's more insulting - the actual flag or the fine...
If that..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/11/2020 1:55 pm : link
was hockey, Clowney would at least miss a game.
I really did not see anything wrong with it.  
Scuzzlebutt : 1/11/2020 2:03 pm : link
Did not think it was dirty.
He should have been suspended for a game  
Angus : 1/11/2020 2:09 pm : link
Blatant, intentional. Successfully removing a player from the game.
I was rooting for the Seahawks until that hit  
JohnB : 1/11/2020 2:15 pm : link
it was dirty and the intent was to knock CW out of the game. After that, I couldn't root for a team that took the other teams star out and did it with intent.

I rooted for the Eagles from that point forwards.... and truly dislike the Eagles (and HATE the Cowboys).
Did the league  
XBRONX : 1/11/2020 2:31 pm : link
check with Stephen A Smith?
RE: We’d be mad too  
GloryDayz : 1/11/2020 2:31 pm : link
In comment 14773250 Saquads26 said:
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He led with his helmet and knocked him out of the game. Seemed dirty to me.


+1
RE: I was rooting for the Seahawks until that hit  
SirLoinOfBeef : 1/11/2020 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14773301 JohnB said:
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it was dirty and the intent was to knock CW out of the game. After that, I couldn't root for a team that took the other teams star out and did it with intent.

I rooted for the Eagles from that point forwards.... and truly dislike the Eagles (and HATE the Cowboys).


Whoa!... Let's not get crazy here!
I see him leading with his shoulder and trying....  
MOOPS : 1/11/2020 3:23 pm : link
to get his helmet away from Wentz. What am I missing?
Bang bang play in real time.  
Crispino : 1/11/2020 3:53 pm : link
I don’t know how people are imputing Clowney’s thoughts, ie: a clear intent to knock him out of the game. Seems awfully speculative and the league agrees. I’m in the minority here, but I don’t see it as a terribly egregious play.
How do most people  
slickwilly : 1/11/2020 3:55 pm : link
still completely miss that Wentz actually took he Clowney's legs out as he was going down? He did not intentionally lead with his helmet. Watch it again for fucks sake.
RE: RE: I was rooting for the Seahawks until that hit  
Route 9 : 1/11/2020 5:03 pm : link
In comment 14773346 SirLoinOfBeef said:
Whoa!... Let's not get crazy here! [/quote]

Crazy? Being an Eagle sympathizer and even going as far as wanting them to win playoff games and even Super Bowls is a fixed routine around these parts.
Who is the hell feels bad for Philly?  
adamg : 1/11/2020 6:16 pm : link
Are you Giants fans or what? Fuck Philly. Fuck Wentz.

And go out and sign Clowney. LFG.
RE: How do most people  
Darth Paul : 1/11/2020 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14773374 slickwilly said:
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still completely miss that Wentz actually took he Clowney's legs out as he was going down? He did not intentionally lead with his helmet. Watch it again for fucks sake.


Agree. I do not think it was dirty.
Wentz shouldve slid  
Platos : 1/11/2020 7:30 pm : link
Thats the long and shirt of it. He wasnt leading with his head. The cody ford call and fine is bullshit though
I'm sure when the NFL looked at this  
eclipz928 : 1/11/2020 8:12 pm : link
they asked themselves two questions - was this "helmet to helmet", and/or was the hit late?

The answer to both is no.

Helmet to helmet penalties are only called when it occurs against a defenseless receiver, against a QB in the pocket, or when there is a forceful impact. Wentz was a runner out of the pocket, so the first two don't apply.

It's debatable whether the hit to the head could be considered forceful, but in general the type of hits that we're talking about with regard to being fineable are those where you hear a loud "crack" or see paint flying off of the helmet. It wasn't that kind of hit.

Was the hit late? Clowney was maybe about a step late. I think people get caught up with watching the replay in slow motion - at full speed it was a pretty bang bang play. That's aside from the fact that Wentz was not diving to give himself up, and that he wasn't actually yet down by contact when contact was made with him in mid air.

I think a lot of people's judgement on this, especially Eagles fans, are being clouded by the end result of the play and by the person who was involved.
Good.  
MtDizzle : 1/12/2020 1:00 am : link
Clean hit. Learn how to slide Carson.
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