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Giants expected to keep WR coach Tyke Tolbert

Anakim : 1/11/2020 5:39 pm
Ian Rapoport
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Not a surprise given the development of the #Giants receiving group, but new coach Joe Judge is expected to keep WRs coach Tyke Tolbert, source said. He helped turn late-rounder Darius Slayton is a very productive player, among others.
Great news  
SteelGiant : 1/11/2020 5:47 pm : link
The 2 coaches who proved their worth was ST and WR coaches. Judge would be 2 for 2 in my opinion and that is a good start. Go get Bill Callahan for OL coach and he will be 3 for 3 of my plan
When they announcing Quinn back  
Justlurking : 1/11/2020 5:48 pm : link
You know it coming...
Excellent  
Joey in VA : 1/11/2020 5:51 pm : link
He got Slayton ready quickly the shuffle of WRs with injuries and suspensions didn't really kill us. I mean we stunk, but the WRs who played always seemed ready to go no matter who we were forced to use.
👏  
Ben in Tampa : 1/11/2020 5:52 pm : link
Hoping the staff announcements start to come in hot this week.

Jim Caldwell would be an interesting choice for OC.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/11/2020 5:52 pm : link
Tyke Tolbert @CoachTykeT3
#Grateful
Lunda Wells  
TheWalrus : 1/11/2020 5:58 pm : link
Is the only other guy on this staff that I would like to see retained. Did well with Engram and Kaden Smith.
RE: When they announcing Quinn back  
Justlurking : 1/11/2020 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14773474 Justlurking said:
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You know it coming...


I am kidding for the record. Tolbert is a good coach as is McGaughey. The rest of that staff should not be retained.

Iíd like an OC thatís going to use spread concepts and plays to Jones strengths as a runner using pistol.
RE: Lunda Wells  
Justlurking : 1/11/2020 5:59 pm : link
In comment 14773493 TheWalrus said:
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Is the only other guy on this staff that I would like to see retained. Did well with Engram and Kaden Smith.


True forgot him
These 2 and the TE coach are the only coaches  
Giantfan21 : 1/11/2020 5:59 pm : link
that should stay. Everyone else should be gone already
Great news about Tolbert  
mfsd : 1/11/2020 6:16 pm : link
seems to be doing a very good job
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Mdgiantsfan : 1/11/2020 6:23 pm : link
Interesting to note that he retained the coaches who were over the two positions he oversaw in NE.
RE: Excellent  
mfsd : 1/11/2020 6:26 pm : link
In comment 14773478 Joey in VA said:
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He got Slayton ready quickly the shuffle of WRs with injuries and suspensions didn't really kill us. I mean we stunk, but the WRs who played always seemed ready to go no matter who we were forced to use.


Yup, and it has also been common to see our WRs blocking hard downfield.

That is, on those rare occasions Saquon has had a hole to hit
Good move  
idiotsavant : 1/11/2020 7:46 pm : link
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These guys earned their renewals for next year ...  
Spider56 : 1/11/2020 8:27 pm : link
Coincidental itís the 2 positions JJ has the most experience with too ... now on to the hard ones.
Totally agree about Tolbert ...  
Manny in CA : 1/12/2020 1:54 am : link

He did a great job with 5th round pick Slayton.

As a reward I want to give him OBJ look-alike Jerry Jeudy in the first round.

Wells he did fine with Smith but with Engram, that's a hard call, he's got the kind of natural ability you can't coach or teach. As far as making him a better blocker, Lunda failed.
RE: Totally agree about Tolbert ...  
Leg of Theismann : 1/12/2020 5:01 am : link
In comment 14774468 Manny in CA said:
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He did a great job with 5th round pick Slayton.

As a reward I want to give him OBJ look-alike Jerry Jeudy in the first round.

Wells he did fine with Smith but with Engram, that's a hard call, he's got the kind of natural ability you can't coach or teach. As far as making him a better blocker, Lunda failed.


Manny-- Jerry Jeudy, just like Saquon, is a fantastic player but it won't matter if we don't have an OL to block.

I do agree though, a lot people dismiss picking a WR that high as a "luxury pick", but every team NEEDS a true #1 WR. I'm not saying every team needs a top 5 wideout, no, I'm saying every team needs a true #1 WR, and those are difficult to find. Jerry Jeudy is one of those though and will be for a long time, IMO.

I think ideal circumstances for taking Jerry Jeudy would be 1) we kill it in FA and especially shore up the OL, 2) we've traded down to a team looking to nab Tua or Herbert and gotten a nice haul, hence having more picks and picking a few slots later I'd feel more comfortable taking Jeudy.

Jeudy, Slayton, Shep, Tate, Engram, Barkley... that would be a nice full complement of weapons for DJ to work with (again, IF he has time to throw the ball). I'd also like to add another TE in the draft, namely Jared Pinkney from Vanderbilt in the 4th round. He can both block and catch and plays the TE position with an old school nasty demeanor, both in blocking and running after the catch. We need a true TE who can do it all, so that we can just use Engram as an x-factor weapon in the passing game and not have to worry about him being such a shitty blocker.
RE: Totally agree about Tolbert ...  
CromartiesKid21 : 1/12/2020 6:04 am : link
In comment 14774468 Manny in CA said:
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He did a great job with 5th round pick Slayton.

As a reward I want to give him OBJ look-alike Jerry Jeudy in the first round.

Wells he did fine with Smith but with Engram, that's a hard call, he's got the kind of natural ability you can't coach or teach. As far as making him a better blocker, Lunda failed.


Jeudy is as finished a product as there is in this a draft.

I'd hope a top-5 pick WR is ready to dominate immediately regardless of Coaching
RE: RE: Totally agree about Tolbert ...  
Mike in NY : 1/12/2020 7:32 am : link
In comment 14774483 Leg of Theismann said:
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In comment 14774468 Manny in CA said:


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He did a great job with 5th round pick Slayton.

As a reward I want to give him OBJ look-alike Jerry Jeudy in the first round.

Wells he did fine with Smith but with Engram, that's a hard call, he's got the kind of natural ability you can't coach or teach. As far as making him a better blocker, Lunda failed.



Manny-- Jerry Jeudy, just like Saquon, is a fantastic player but it won't matter if we don't have an OL to block.

I do agree though, a lot people dismiss picking a WR that high as a "luxury pick", but every team NEEDS a true #1 WR. I'm not saying every team needs a top 5 wideout, no, I'm saying every team needs a true #1 WR, and those are difficult to find. Jerry Jeudy is one of those though and will be for a long time, IMO.

I think ideal circumstances for taking Jerry Jeudy would be 1) we kill it in FA and especially shore up the OL, 2) we've traded down to a team looking to nab Tua or Herbert and gotten a nice haul, hence having more picks and picking a few slots later I'd feel more comfortable taking Jeudy.

Jeudy, Slayton, Shep, Tate, Engram, Barkley... that would be a nice full complement of weapons for DJ to work with (again, IF he has time to throw the ball). I'd also like to add another TE in the draft, namely Jared Pinkney from Vanderbilt in the 4th round. He can both block and catch and plays the TE position with an old school nasty demeanor, both in blocking and running after the catch. We need a true TE who can do it all, so that we can just use Engram as an x-factor weapon in the passing game and not have to worry about him being such a shitty blocker.


Kaden Smith showed enough to be the #2 TE IMHO. While it may be nice to add more weapons early on, I do not think it will matter much if the OL canít give QB time to throw and D canít give favorable field position by getting off the field on third downs and getting big negative plays like sacks and turnovers.
RE: ...  
Red_White_and_Big_Blue : 1/12/2020 10:56 am : link
In comment 14773484 Eric from BBI said:
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Tyke Tolbert @CoachTykeT3
#Grateful


Possibly the only 2 coordinators on the staff worth keeping. Him and McGaughey.

Maybe TE coach too?
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