Mike Garafolo
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The #Giants have requested permission to interview #Dolphins defensive coordinator Patrick Graham for their DC role, sources tell me and
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Expectation is itll be granted. Graham, who was in NE with Joe Judge, was with NYG in 2016-17.
Graham has coaching experience with the Giants
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And you are correct: Patrick Graham called the plays as defensive coordinator in Miami this season, not Flores.
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robbie - really? Any comments about him?
Not really. I was a DB so he wasn't the coach for my position but he was on the staff. He was young. He was still learning the ropes at that time but I was shocked he moved up so quickly to the NFL. He was very proud he went to Yale and would tell us stories about his games. He obviously worked his ass off to get to where he is at but I cannot give any insight into how he is as a coach now. I know he was still green when he was at Wagner and it probably isn't fair to compare who he was back then to who he is now.
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And you are correct: Patrick Graham called the plays as defensive coordinator in Miami this season, not Flores.
A one-year contract? Doubt it.
Never mind
You are acting like he is fucking Belicheck. I like him too but let's not act like he has a track record of hiring great coaches.
I agree he has to hire the guys he wants but I don't think there isn't anything wrong with us having some serious concerns with unproven guys.
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So it's a courtesy to allow for the inevitable process to move through faster? Maybe Graham has already told Flores he's not coming back. Just spitballing on my part because it's certainly curious that the Dolphins would allow a valued coach to leave for the same exact position.
A one-year contract? Doubt it.
Jay Gruden, Norv Turner, and to a lesser extent Bill Callahan as OL coach, would all seem like good options to compliment the coaching staff with some experience if they do go with the younger up and coming DC.
Jay Gruden, Norv Turner, and to a lesser extent Bill Callahan as OL coach, would all seem like good options to compliment the coaching staff with some experience if they do go with the younger up and coming DC.
Dont sleep on Jim Caldwell. I think he would be an excellent choice.
Jay Gruden, Norv Turner, and to a lesser extent Bill Callahan as OL coach, would all seem like good options to compliment the coaching staff with some experience if they do go with the younger up and coming DC.
If I had to pick only one assistant for Judge to hire I would choose Bill Callahan for the OL coach position. He has been one of the best OL coaches in football and he did a masterful job this season with the Skins line.
who was the best player on the dolphins defense? They were literally starting a practice squad and still won more games than we did.
Well they didn't have any talent so that's expected. Hell, Saleh wasn't that good until the defense got stacked and we're seeing the results now. First goal is to get talent
Did you see the talent on their defense? They opened the season with two Giants cuts Avery Moss and John Jenkins as starters on their defensive line. Their secondary was filled with UDFA's many of which would start the week they were signed off the street or practice squads. It's impressive that they weren't dead last in every statistical category.
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Dolphins were atrocious defensively
who was the best player on the dolphins defense? They were literally starting a practice squad and still won more games than we did.
The only good players on their defense were Minkah Fitzpatrick (traded), Christian Wilkins ( a rookie 1st round pick), LB Jerome Baker, and Xavien Howard(went on IR and only played 7 games).
Who gives a crap how old coaches are? Just get the most capable guys for the job.
I'd like a past Head Coach on the staff as an Asst. Coach/DC (or OC) to help guide our first time coach
Players?
Players?
Well, one thing is he coached Avery Moss in New York and then brought him over to Miami, where he did a whole lotta nothing
Doubt it.
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Have to trade for him since its lateral move?
Doubt it.
Why? The dolphins would just give him up to us out of the kindness of their hearts?
Steve...as you said at the end it's probably done just for legal reasons. See my 9:27 post above yours.
It's not odd to want to see people perform in a specific context no matter how well you know them. If Judge is considering multiple people for the job who he's worked with, or thinks highly of, it makes sense to talk to them and see what their thoughts are on the best plan for the personnel, how their strategies have evolved, etc. It also makes sense to compare those people and their plans to people who he hasn't worked with but have been successful.
Interview is nothing more than a little extra information making a decision. Most of the time not the most important thing, but why not have the extra info?
I dont know about your experiences, but from mine, it doesnt matter how long you may have worked for a company there is still a process to follow. People that have worked somewhere for 30 years still have to go through the interview process. Hell, it happens with our own team all the time. They dont just hire someone without interviewing them. There are also people in the organization that dont know anything about him. They will be involved in the interview as well.
If he gets the okay to interview and gets the job, dont look a gift horse in the mouth.
On the plus side, the Dolphins defense played really hard all year.
They were also one of the least penalized defenses in the NFL.
It is weird that Miami is granting Graham permission to interview, but, if they didn't like him, I'm guessing they would have fired him with the other coaches that got fired. My guess is this is more of the Dolphins doing the right thing.
If Graham is good why would they give him to the Giants. If you're their GM, explain that to the Dolphin fans, if he does well here.
'Cause you wanted to do the "right thing" ?
Pardon the pun -I smell a fish.
To this day I will forever believe that the meltdown in 2017 happened because that entire team was too thin skinned and McAdoo had zero command over them. So everything was all good when they were winning, but literally a few tough losses strung together to start the season and everyone was ready to jump ship and point fingers. Then at that point the failure just became a self fulfilling prophecy. It was pathetic.
Remember when Coughlins Giants started 0-6 in 2013 and it didnt even seem like anyone was panicking: but in 2017 I honestly dont even think that team was that bad to begin with, I mean come on you dont go 11-5 and then just become a terrible team over night. It was the same team! They just didnt play their A game early on and on top of that had a number of 1 score losses (as opposed to the 1 score wins in 2016) but the ball bounces differently here or there whos to say they dont win a few more games and then they wouldnt have had that embarrassing spiral of doom. Ive never seen a group of professional athletes destroy their team so quickly over what could have been a temporary slump /losing streak if they had just kept their cool.
There was no strong leadership and so many guys let their egos get so hurt by some media/fans grilling them for the losses and instead of remaining unflappably and trying to right the ship they just all self destructed.
On the plus side, the Dolphins defense played really hard all year.
They were also one of the least penalized defenses in the NFL.
It is weird that Miami is granting Graham permission to interview, but, if they didn't like him, I'm guessing they would have fired him with the other coaches that got fired. My guess is this is more of the Dolphins doing the right thing.
Its possible that Graham wasnt happy in Miami, but told them hed stay and give it his all as long as they were willing to let him interview if a team from Northeast requested it.
If Graham is good why would they give him to the Giants. If you're their GM, explain that to the Dolphin fans, if he does well here.
'Cause you wanted to do the "right thing" ?
Pardon the pun -I smell a fish.
Possible or disagreement in philosophies etc.