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Defensive Line Personnel

Bill in UT : 1/11/2020 6:40 pm
We've invested a lot of picks into our DL the past couple of years. If Judge doesn't care for the skill sets that our current crop has, who has enough trade value to bring back a different kind of DLman who's a decent player? Or do we just have to write these guys- Tomlinson, Hill, Lawrence, McIntosh off and rebuild the line with the draft or FA's? Maybe Judge can make better use of what they can do?
I'm worried DG will give Tomlinson the boot.  
adamg : 1/11/2020 6:44 pm : link
He clearly wants his own guys and Tomlinson was Jerry's last hit on the DL.

Hill and McIntosh have been underwhelming. I think a lot of people overrate our DL depth. We do have three starters though in Tomlinson, Lawrence, and Williams.
Look at the 49ers  
jwebb20 : 1/11/2020 6:47 pm : link
Bunch of guys that can rush the passer and speed


What do we have

Bunch of slow plodding guys that stop the run but have no speed


One is a top 5 defense
One is a bottom 5 defense



RE: I'm worried DG will give Tomlinson the boot.  
Big Blue '56 : 1/11/2020 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14773608 adamg said:
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He clearly wants his own guys and Tomlinson was Jerry's last hit on the DL.

Hill and McIntosh have been underwhelming. I think a lot of people overrate our DL depth. We do have three starters though in Tomlinson, Lawrence, and Williams.


Not understanding. Where has it been stated that he “clearly” wants his own guys?
spy made a good point in the Tomlinson thread  
adamg : 1/11/2020 6:49 pm : link
It might make sense to have Tomlinson finish up his cheap 4th year here and bank the comp pick while paying Williams and having Lawrence on his rookie deal.

I still think Hill and McIntosh shouldn't stop us from going in the trenches on D again in the draft if the value is there.
RE: RE: I'm worried DG will give Tomlinson the boot.  
adamg : 1/11/2020 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14773616 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 14773608 adamg said:


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He clearly wants his own guys and Tomlinson was Jerry's last hit on the DL.

Hill and McIntosh have been underwhelming. I think a lot of people overrate our DL depth. We do have three starters though in Tomlinson, Lawrence, and Williams.



Not understanding. Where has it been stated that he “clearly” wants his own guys?


Who has he kept from the Reese years?
BB56  
adamg : 1/11/2020 6:52 pm : link
You really don't think he's cleared house?
RE: spy made a good point in the Tomlinson thread  
Bill in UT : 1/11/2020 6:52 pm : link
In comment 14773619 adamg said:
[quote] It might make sense to have Tomlinson finish up his cheap 4th year here and bank the comp pick while paying Williams and having Lawrence on his rookie deal.

I still think Hill and McIntosh shouldn't stop us from going in the trenches on D again in the draft if the value is there. [/quote

Hill and McIntosh are both Gettleman picks
RE: BB56  
Big Blue '56 : 1/11/2020 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14773623 adamg said:
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You really don't think he's cleared house?


I don’t know yet.
I didn't imply otherwise  
adamg : 1/11/2020 6:56 pm : link
I was talking about Tomlinson... :0
RE: I didn't imply otherwise  
Big Blue '56 : 1/11/2020 6:59 pm : link
In comment 14773633 adamg said:
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I was talking about Tomlinson... :0


I hope they keep him. Talented youth on that. Would hate being thin there
should read:  
Big Blue '56 : 1/11/2020 6:59 pm : link
talented youth on that line
After  
Thinblueline : 1/11/2020 7:07 pm : link
Watching this 49ers game I hope our first few draft picks are pass Rushers
RE: Look at the 49ers  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/11/2020 7:07 pm : link
In comment 14773612 jwebb20 said:
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Bunch of guys that can rush the passer and speed


What do we have

Bunch of slow plodding guys that stop the run but have no speed


One is a top 5 defense
One is a bottom 5 defense




The 49ers have 5 former 1st round picks along their defensive line. 5!

Out of those 5:

Solomon Thomas-3rd overall
Nick Bosa-2nd overall
Arik Armstead-17th overall
DeForrest Buckner-7th overall
Dee Ford-23rd overall by Kansas City. Traded to San Francisco for a 2nd round , and given a 5 year 87 million dollar deal.

My point is they invested heavy heavy heavy with the defensive front. It’s not fair to compare the Giants front to that.
RE: RE: Look at the 49ers  
Thinblueline : 1/11/2020 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14773657 Vin_Cuccs said:
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In comment 14773612 jwebb20 said:


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Bunch of guys that can rush the passer and speed

We need more pass rushers!!
What do we have

Bunch of slow plodding guys that stop the run but have no speed


One is a top 5 defense
One is a bottom 5 defense






The 49ers have 5 former 1st round picks along their defensive line. 5!

Out of those 5:

Solomon Thomas-3rd overall
Nick Bosa-2nd overall
Arik Armstead-17th overall
DeForrest Buckner-7th overall
Dee Ford-23rd overall by Kansas City. Traded to San Francisco for a 2nd round , and given a 5 year 87 million dollar deal.

My point is they invested heavy heavy heavy with the defensive front. It’s not fair to compare the Giants front to that.
Looks like you keep the DTs  
idiotsavant : 1/11/2020 7:49 pm : link
We have and invest heavily in fast ilbs, great safeties and OL for year 1.
I mean I love the 9ers, how they are built and have  
idiotsavant : 1/11/2020 7:54 pm : link
Been ranting about shanny since before Macadoo.

But you cannot just swivle around each sexy thing (on defense, on O - yes we have to pivot).

We have DTs finally . One more edge if a great one .

But we need safeties and ilbs in the worst way .
RE: I'm worried DG will give Tomlinson the boot.  
WillVAB : 1/11/2020 8:15 pm : link
In comment 14773608 adamg said:
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He clearly wants his own guys and Tomlinson was Jerry's last hit on the DL.

Hill and McIntosh have been underwhelming. I think a lot of people overrate our DL depth. We do have three starters though in Tomlinson, Lawrence, and Williams.


DG mentioned setting aside 20 mil for in season extensions. Tomlinson fits that bill. Maybe Engram although I wouldn’t do it.

I don’t think there’s anyone else worth extending this year.
RE: RE: I'm worried DG will give Tomlinson the boot.  
adamg : 1/11/2020 8:53 pm : link
In comment 14773754 WillVAB said:
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In comment 14773608 adamg said:


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He clearly wants his own guys and Tomlinson was Jerry's last hit on the DL.

Hill and McIntosh have been underwhelming. I think a lot of people overrate our DL depth. We do have three starters though in Tomlinson, Lawrence, and Williams.



DG mentioned setting aside 20 mil for in season extensions. Tomlinson fits that bill. Maybe Engram although I wouldn’t do it.

I don’t think there’s anyone else worth extending this year.


Agreed. I was just thinking in season extension makes sense too.
Let’s see how JJ works this  
Daniel in MI : 1/11/2020 10:12 pm : link
He said he wants to figure out what guys do well and let them do that. We may find he can get more out of some of these guys with that approach.
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