Seems like I’m in the minority of BBI who feels is skeptical based on what we’ve heard from Joe Judge.
Mike Vrabel could win coach of the year. When you go back to watch his intro presser or just hear him speak in general, he’s charismatic, funny, passionate and seems like a guy you’d want to grab a beer with. It doesn’t hurt that he played for a while in the NFL and coached under one of the great motivators in urban Meyer. My point is that it’s easy to see why players buy into him.
During the HC search we heard from ownership that they were looking for
A coach who could better relate to their players after Ben and Pat. I’m skeptical we got that in Joe Judge.
Sure he’s old school and intense which are not bad things but he also came
Off as a hard ass- did he crack a smile or joke once in the presser? I hope there’s a lighter side to him , it’s a long season and besides the unique run in New England, you’re going to have to connect with the players.
I hope my read on Judge is wrong but I think it’s telling that his former staff member who’s current Indys ST coach said how he’s not going to lie that Judge is a tough guy to work for because his obsession on details. Patriot players seemed to say the same thing calling it”annoying” but also helpful because they were prepared.
Finally, being a specials team coach you lead and manage a lot of players but you do not lead or manage hardly any staff/ coaches. This will be a new challenge for Joe.
I’m not sure what you’ve heard but from everything I’ve heard the players Judge has worked with generally like the guy. If you say you’ve heard players have found his obsession with details to be “annoying but they like it because they’re well prepared” then that’s absolutely perfect. A head coach isn’t supposed to be your best friend he’s supposed to get the best out of you. The only time it becomes a problem is when his rules are inconsistent and he seems to be barking at you all the time for seemingly just to be barking, or dining you just for the sake of it . Coughlin I think honestly had a little bit of that in him. Judge doesn’t strike me as the type of guy who doesn’t do anything without a purpose. He almost has a doctorate in education and imagine he’s very careful with his methods and techniques and understands every little detail about how you treat a student can affect how they student will behave and view you /learn from you in the future.
He said he’s willing to adapt to every player’s individual learning style and has said he wants coaches to adapt their schemes and methods TO the players. He even talked about having empathy and compassion for their feelings. That certainly sounds like a “players” coach to me, I don’t think that word always has the same meaning for every coach.
mara is reactive. he admitted to hiring shurmur because he was looking for the opposite of mcadoo (older guy, longer track record in the NFL, prior HC experience) and since that worked out worse than the mcadoo hire did, this time he was looked at guys opposite of shurmur. all we heard was the top guy was rhule, until he got outbid, then we hear judge was supposedly the guy all along due to the belichick pedigree and 'flooring' them in the interview, whatever that means.
i'd've like to see dan campbell get an interview. seems vrabel-like.
Judge made it extremely clear that he needs to know what makes each player “tick”. That to me makes me believe he places great importance on his relationships with players.
Time will tell but what stands out the most to me is his emphasis on coaching the whole team, and knowing his players vs. being an “offensive guru” who is more concerned with calling plays.
Exactly. Any player/coach is going to be different talking to the media than they are behind closed doors. And Everyone’s going to sound different when giving a speech on TV vs. how they talk in the locker room vs how they speak to individual players.
Seriously hard core pushing his players, extremely demanding. Wasn’t too much camaraderie there on screen.
Nobody saw Vrabel coming based on what he said at his presser either.
What? Fancy analytics? In 2018 Gettleman emphatically stated that he didn't care for analytics and he had a major influence on hiring Shurmur.
Giants absolutely dropped the ball not even giving Vrabel an interview, though.
They can both be successful coaches. Not sure why Vrabel being called a leader of men means that somehow Judge can't be.
Very odd thread.
Maybe Judge and Rhule will have to fight out who can hold court the best:)
Take the kiswa maker hook of our sietch and ride as a leader of men.
Give me that in a Head Coach every day of the week and twice on Sunday.