Is it weird that I don’t care? Am I a sociopath? All their works are still available and there are plenty of musicians/ actors / writers out there to make good stuff in the future.
Bowie stopped making music that I cared about long before he died. But he was such a huge part of my childhood, particularly my teenage years, that when he died I felt like he took a large piece of my childhood with him. It was as if he was the living, breathing symbol of my childhood still walking around, still doing concerts (even if I didn't go to them), still making music (even if I didn't really like any of it), and still doing interviews (even if I didn't watch any of them). As long as he was alive it felt like so was my childhood.
Is it weird that I don’t care? Am I a sociopath?
All their works are still available and there are plenty of musicians/ actors / writers out there to make good stuff in the future.
Nope, not weird. I’m the same. I feel badly that they died but they aren’t above anyone else.
It's not about them being above anyone. It's about your connection to them even if they don't even know you exist. Bowie connected my whole family. All seven of us--my brother, my five sisters, and me--were big Bowie fans. In 1974 the seven of us saw him at MSG for the Diamond Dogs Tour. I was 14 at the time and my oldest sister was 23. There we were passing doobies back and forth (along with the rest of the crowd). One of my fondest memories.
Cobain was my teenage years. Second album I owned was nevermind. Favorite band at the time and really my roots into my love for music.
Bourdain just because of his approach. No nonsense, not afraid of making his demons known, trying to get everyone on the same pagr simply put most importantly. Not to mention the love of food and travel
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The Beastie Boys were the first band I got into, at age 11. In my 40s now and his was the first celebrity death that affected me. Anthony Bourdain would be the second one.
I understand that by my connection to celebrities is non existent. Maybe if Michael Jordan died when I was 12 I would have felt it but now as an adult I can’t say anything would effect me other than to acknowledge the person, be respectful of the death, and move on.
He was the guitar/musical hero for us. His shocking (to us) death caused a lot of mourning. I saw him first at Woodstock and then a few months later at the Fillmore East in the village, which became the "Band of Gypsies" album. Then, poof, he was gone.
I was 16 and a life-long fan. For him to be gunned down at 40 years old was just so senseless. It was surreal to be mourning and grieving along with the world. Hope we never see anything like that again.
Dime especially since growing up, Pantera was, by far, my favorite band. I declined to see his band at the time, Damageplan, about a week or so before he died because I figured I could catch him whenever he came around next. Shortly thereafter, he was shot to death on stage by a crazed fan who blamed him for Pantera’s breakup. Such an incredible talent, gone for no reason.
...as the "I generally don't care" group, but I remember exactly where I was and what I was feeling when I saw Kurt Loder announce Kurt Cobain's death.
Lennon was tough....I lived near Dakota at the time
I was a 21 year old Doorman at 67th & CPW at the time. Also a huge Beatles fan. This death was pretty soul crushing.
About two years before, he came strolling down the sidewalk. You couldn't mistake him because Yoko was with him too. By the time I found a scrap of paper and a pencil (couldn’t find a pen!) I tried to catch up with him and ask for an autograph. He just half-turned his head towards me and said loudly in his thick Liverpool accent “No. I don’t do them anymore”. That hurt, but not as much as when he died.
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I though of Leonard Cohen, who died two years ago, but was truly a loss to a special world of a very special talent. Different than most, his roots remained in the Jewish world even unto death. We miss you Leonard.
I thought he was going all the way when he eventually got into the family business. I think David Cone threw his perfect game that weekend too, but I might be mistaken.
Everyone wanted to be The Mick growing up in the 50’s and 60’s in north Jersey.
Sad that his hard party life during baseball career was major cause of his death
When Jerry died in 1995 I was 14 years old and had finally gotten permission to see the dead at their upcoming fall run. I was introduced to them 2 years before by a friend at camp and was instantly hooked. Unfortunately, I never got to see the big man live...
Greg, on the other hand, I saw live 33 times. His music played such an important role in my life. So many memories with my father. So many memories with my friends. It's not that these guys were celebrities, I felt like I knew them, especially Greg.
...as the "I generally don't care" group, but I remember exactly where I was and what I was feeling when I saw Kurt Loder announce Kurt Cobain's death.
Lol, it's like my parents remembering where they were when Kennedy was shot. I was at my buddy Eric's house after school and we were watching MTV and drinking sunkist soda eating twix. Loder comes on and announced it and both of us were in shock and didn't say a word for a good 10 minutes.
was a hard day, his music was a time piece of my past with my brother who is a musician and my late father. Also he was the grunge rockstar who made it through the dark days and survived among a group of others Cobain, Staley, Weiland. An the way he killed himself was a true reflection of how dark he was inside. just sad.
Avicci or Tim Berg the DJ superstar who really elevated EDM (electronic dance music) to becoming a household genera of music. I remember hearing "levels" during a Subaru commercial once. Avicci was my first rave/show and set a memorable experience. Also he was so young
Stuart Scott was a shocker for me because he was the face of ESPN while I was growing up. The fact he had just won the Jimmy V award and was a huge supporter of cancer research. With all the good you would see from others to help people who had cancer it was still a bitter reminder that despite all the hope there is the real truth of the inevitable.
I was in college, and actually was at a Springsteen concert at the Philly Spectrum that night. After Bruce's normal 3 encores, the lights came on then went off again, and Bruce came out and did a Beatles Medley. No one knew why, because there weren't things like cell phones back then. On the way home we heard about Lennon, Bruce must have heard backstage and come out.
Chris Farley, talk about losing a talent who was just about to hit his prime. Seeing Adam Sandler's reaction/Euology on SNL a couple weeks later was heartbreaking, just a tragic story.
I was in college, and actually was at a Springsteen concert at the Philly Spectrum that night. After Bruce's normal 3 encores, the lights came on then went off again, and Bruce came out and did a Beatles Medley. No one knew why, because there weren't things like cell phones back then. On the way home we heard about Lennon, Bruce must have heard backstage and come out.
I was at King's College in Wilkes Barre. A night I'll never forget.
Growing up I was taught not to worship hero's. In most cases these people are not to admire. You might admire their work but they are not admirable people. I remember Daryl and Doc with Cocaine, LT with Coke and other things so when certain celebrities died in most cases I didn't feel overly bad.
I would say Neil Peart sticks out to me.
One of the best drummers and songwriters. A family man that dealt with a ton of heartache in his life. Both his daughter and wife died leaving him heartbroken. He finally found a new wife and he was only in his 60's before he passed of a 3+ year battle with brain cancer. Loved the music. Very humble man. Have been going through Youtube for Rush songs, video's, live covers.
dying in a plane crash. I was 10, and he was really really popular at the time. I had seen him on the Midnight Special a short time prior to his death, and I just remember, being 10, that one hit kinda hard.
More recently, id say Tom Petty, although that happened the day after the Vegas shooting and I was actually flying to Vegas that day, so kind of got overshadowed a bit at the time. But man,,,,,I was and remain a huge Petty fan.
This has absolutely nothing to do with hero worship. David Bowie was never my hero. Neither was Thurman Munson. I don't think anyone on this thread is talking about their heroes.
I was in college, and actually was at a Springsteen concert at the Philly Spectrum that night. After Bruce's normal 3 encores, the lights came on then went off again, and Bruce came out and did a Beatles Medley. No one knew why, because there weren't things like cell phones back then. On the way home we heard about Lennon, Bruce must have heard backstage and come out.
I was at that show too and you're right, no one had any idea.
We were in the car heading back to the Shore and had WMMR on and they were simulcasting from outside the Dakota and we didn't know what the hell we were listening to for a few minutes until one of the DJ's cut in with an update on what was going on.
After a couple of oh no's and shit fuck's, I don't think the four of us said another word the whole ride home and just listened and took it all in.
I'd also put the Skynard plane crash and losing some of those members as hitting me hard at the time as well as John Bonham.
I was holding a pair of tickets to the Nugent/Skynyrd show at MSG back in the fall of '77. Then the plane crash happened. They never made the show. Nugent became the headliner, plus some band called Rex as the warmup. God, this was ages ago...
I'd also put the Skynard plane crash and losing some of those members as hitting me hard at the time as well as John Bonham.
I was holding a pair of tickets to the Nugent/Skynyrd show at MSG back in the fall of '77. Then the plane crash happened. They never made the show. Nugent became the headliner, plus some band called Rex as the warmup. God, this was ages ago...
Wow, we had tix for Skynyrd also.
I was lucky to have seen Zep and Bonham at MSG and was completely blown away by how great he was. I had seen other great bands, singers, guitar players etc but never a drummer like that. His passing bummed the hell out of me at the time too.
I was in college, and actually was at a Springsteen concert at the Philly Spectrum that night. After Bruce's normal 3 encores, the lights came on then went off again, and Bruce came out and did a Beatles Medley. No one knew why, because there weren't things like cell phones back then. On the way home we heard about Lennon, Bruce must have heard backstage and come out.
I was at King's College in Wilkes Barre. A night I'll never forget.
I should have changed plans so maybe could’ve seen him play in Memphis the year before. I blew it. Now Wildflowers album sounds sad, instead of just mellow.
I should have changed plans so maybe could’ve seen him play in Memphis the year before. I blew it. Now Wildflowers album sounds sad, instead of just mellow.
Have you seen the Rock Doc - Echoes In The Canyon on Netflix? It's fantastic and he's in a lot of it. Passes on some great insights and as good as he was, it was sad seeing him and knowing he's gone.
A good young man that worked for my families business died yesterday in Greensboro NC when his car hydroplaned during the rain storm that hit down there. He hit a tree head on and was killed instantly. His 3 week old daughter fractured her skull and has bleeding on her brain. His other two small children also suffered injuries but were of the broken bone variety. Miguel was a very hard worker and great father. His family is not in the position to suffer his loss financially. His widow is a waitress and now has to support 3 small children with no father. They are blue collar and he did not have life insurance. She had to start a go fund me to raise money for his funeral and fuel costs to get back and forth to the children’s hospital where here kids are hospitalized. And while they hit the goal of $5,000 since just last night, I don’t think she really set the goal high enough. She’s going to need so much help. Just an awful situation.
Sorry, when I saw this thread it rubbed me the wrong way after what’s just happened. Nothing personal toward the op. Just seemed kind of trivial when related to real life.
A good young man that worked for my families business died yesterday in Greensboro NC when his car hydroplaned during the rain storm that hit down there. He hit a tree head on and was killed instantly. His 3 week old daughter fractured her skull and has bleeding on her brain. His other two small children also suffered injuries but were of the broken bone variety. Miguel was a very hard worker and great father. His family is not in the position to suffer his loss financially. His widow is a waitress and now has to support 3 small children with no father. They are blue collar and he did not have life insurance. She had to start a go fund me to raise money for his funeral and fuel costs to get back and forth to the children’s hospital where here kids are hospitalized. And while they hit the goal of $5,000 since just last night, I don’t think she really set the goal high enough. She’s going to need so much help. Just an awful situation.
Sorry, when I saw this thread it rubbed me the wrong way after what’s just happened. Nothing personal toward the op. Just seemed kind of trivial when related to real life.
Bowie and Munson and Bourdain and Tom Petty and Philip Seymour Hoffman and Robin Williams were real people too who died in real life. There was nothing trivial about their deaths. Maybe you should get down off your high horse.
Bradshaw44's explanation about his family's employee's car accident death as "being on a high horse."
Jeez man, he's referring to something personal and immediate to him, with an added tragedy of lack of funds or life insurance.
I don't see his post as anything "high horse."
He didn't need to call anyone else's death trivial. We've all experienced personal loss of a loved one. My father died when I was 21 and my mother died when I was 27. I have a friend whose wife died giving birth to his son on Father's Day. Now he is raising a one year old son and a five year old daughter by himself and trying to write comedy after losing the love of his life. Everyone on this thread knows what it's like to lose someone. Nobody gets to avoid personal tragedy.
But that's not what this thread is about. It's specifically about the deaths of people we don't know on a personal level, but who had such an impact on our lives that we took their death very hard. If he wanted to contribute his story anyway, that's fine, I have no problem with him being inspired to share, but he didn't need to insult the rest of us along the way. Nobody's death is trivial.
And I have nothing against bradshaw44. I'm sure he's a great guy.
All their works are still available and there are plenty of musicians/ actors / writers out there to make good stuff in the future.
Luke Perry was a tough one.
All their works are still available and there are plenty of musicians/ actors / writers out there to make good stuff in the future.
Nope, not weird. I’m the same. I feel badly that they died but they aren’t above anyone else.
Yeah, this one. Last time I ever cried at the death of another human.
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Is it weird that I don’t care? Am I a sociopath?
All their works are still available and there are plenty of musicians/ actors / writers out there to make good stuff in the future.
Nope, not weird. I’m the same. I feel badly that they died but they aren’t above anyone else.
Other than that, maybe Lou Reed.
Moi Aussie.
Young, so full of energy still, and took his own life so sad. I grew up with him, I guess we were about the same age.
Cobain was my teenage years. Second album I owned was nevermind. Favorite band at the time and really my roots into my love for music.
Bourdain just because of his approach. No nonsense, not afraid of making his demons known, trying to get everyone on the same pagr simply put most importantly. Not to mention the love of food and travel
Clemente because he died while in service to others. The senselessness was tough for a kid to grasp.
I remember seeing the WPIX Special Report and I just sat in the room and cried.
I saw Petty in Boston shortly before he died. He did not look right. He was moving like a 90 year old.
Tom Petty came to mind first for me as well.
Also Walter Becker of Steely Dan.
Obviously Thurman Munson.
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I saw Petty in Boston shortly before he died. He did not look right. He was moving like a 90 year old.
He injured his hip badly right before the start of that tour, and by the end of the tour it had become a full blown break.
The meds that killed him were the pain meds he was on for the injury, which required surgery. Unfortunately, Tom had some demons and overdid it.
Clemente because he died while in service to others. The senselessness was tough for a kid to grasp.
Both great choices of course along with Munson, the original "Captain" to guys my age.
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Absolutely. It was, and still is, disturbing how a man who could bring so much joy to other people could not keep any for himself.
After Williams (well after Williams) was Heath Ledger and Bill Paxton.
Would have loved his take on so many topics since his death.
James Gandolfini was another...Billy Mays too.
I was a 21 year old Doorman at 67th & CPW at the time. Also a huge Beatles fan. This death was pretty soul crushing.
About two years before, he came strolling down the sidewalk. You couldn't mistake him because Yoko was with him too. By the time I found a scrap of paper and a pencil (couldn’t find a pen!) I tried to catch up with him and ask for an autograph. He just half-turned his head towards me and said loudly in his thick Liverpool accent “No. I don’t do them anymore”. That hurt, but not as much as when he died.
Sad that his hard party life during baseball career was major cause of his death
Greg, on the other hand, I saw live 33 times. His music played such an important role in my life. So many memories with my father. So many memories with my friends. It's not that these guys were celebrities, I felt like I knew them, especially Greg.
you had a "fund" set up? It was 1995 I think... Concert tickets were like what, 30 bucks?
Lol, it's like my parents remembering where they were when Kennedy was shot. I was at my buddy Eric's house after school and we were watching MTV and drinking sunkist soda eating twix. Loder comes on and announced it and both of us were in shock and didn't say a word for a good 10 minutes.
Avicci or Tim Berg the DJ superstar who really elevated EDM (electronic dance music) to becoming a household genera of music. I remember hearing "levels" during a Subaru commercial once. Avicci was my first rave/show and set a memorable experience. Also he was so young
Stuart Scott was a shocker for me because he was the face of ESPN while I was growing up. The fact he had just won the Jimmy V award and was a huge supporter of cancer research. With all the good you would see from others to help people who had cancer it was still a bitter reminder that despite all the hope there is the real truth of the inevitable.
.. and the next one that will hit me hard will be Tony Iommi. He has cancer so I am expecting it to happen at some point soon.
Watched it live.
I was at King's College in Wilkes Barre. A night I'll never forget.
Those two were responsible for a lot of great times in my youth and pointed out that I was getting old.
I would say Neil Peart sticks out to me.
One of the best drummers and songwriters. A family man that dealt with a ton of heartache in his life. Both his daughter and wife died leaving him heartbroken. He finally found a new wife and he was only in his 60's before he passed of a 3+ year battle with brain cancer. Loved the music. Very humble man. Have been going through Youtube for Rush songs, video's, live covers.
More recently, id say Tom Petty, although that happened the day after the Vegas shooting and I was actually flying to Vegas that day, so kind of got overshadowed a bit at the time. But man,,,,,I was and remain a huge Petty fan.
Jerry Garcia
Clarence Clemons
I'd also put the Skynard plane crash and losing some of those members as hitting me hard at the time as well as John Bonham.
I was at that show too and you're right, no one had any idea.
We were in the car heading back to the Shore and had WMMR on and they were simulcasting from outside the Dakota and we didn't know what the hell we were listening to for a few minutes until one of the DJ's cut in with an update on what was going on.
After a couple of oh no's and shit fuck's, I don't think the four of us said another word the whole ride home and just listened and took it all in.
"Enjoy every sandwich"
I will never forget the final interview he did with Letterman. Hard to find words to adequately describe it. Just devastatingly poignant.
Jerry Garcia
Clarence Clemons
I'd also put the Skynard plane crash and losing some of those members as hitting me hard at the time as well as John Bonham.
I was holding a pair of tickets to the Nugent/Skynyrd show at MSG back in the fall of '77. Then the plane crash happened. They never made the show. Nugent became the headliner, plus some band called Rex as the warmup. God, this was ages ago...
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Jerry Garcia
Clarence Clemons
I'd also put the Skynard plane crash and losing some of those members as hitting me hard at the time as well as John Bonham.
I was holding a pair of tickets to the Nugent/Skynyrd show at MSG back in the fall of '77. Then the plane crash happened. They never made the show. Nugent became the headliner, plus some band called Rex as the warmup. God, this was ages ago...
Wow, we had tix for Skynyrd also.
I was lucky to have seen Zep and Bonham at MSG and was completely blown away by how great he was. I had seen other great bands, singers, guitar players etc but never a drummer like that. His passing bummed the hell out of me at the time too.
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I was in college, and actually was at a Springsteen concert at the Philly Spectrum that night. After Bruce's normal 3 encores, the lights came on then went off again, and Bruce came out and did a Beatles Medley. No one knew why, because there weren't things like cell phones back then. On the way home we heard about Lennon, Bruce must have heard backstage and come out.
I was at King's College in Wilkes Barre. A night I'll never forget.
I'm more sorry that you were there.
Great guy. Very accessible.
That one hit me. So did Levon
I still can't watch any of his shows to this day. It just hits me like a brick.
Joining the thread late, Thurm was my first thought, probably because of my age at the time.
Have you seen the Rock Doc - Echoes In The Canyon on Netflix? It's fantastic and he's in a lot of it. Passes on some great insights and as good as he was, it was sad seeing him and knowing he's gone.
Sorry, when I saw this thread it rubbed me the wrong way after what’s just happened. Nothing personal toward the op. Just seemed kind of trivial when related to real life.
Sorry, when I saw this thread it rubbed me the wrong way after what’s just happened. Nothing personal toward the op. Just seemed kind of trivial when related to real life.
Jeez man, he's referring to something personal and immediate to him, with an added tragedy of lack of funds or life insurance.
I don't see his post as anything "high horse."
Jeez man, he's referring to something personal and immediate to him, with an added tragedy of lack of funds or life insurance.
I don't see his post as anything "high horse."
But that's not what this thread is about. It's specifically about the deaths of people we don't know on a personal level, but who had such an impact on our lives that we took their death very hard. If he wanted to contribute his story anyway, that's fine, I have no problem with him being inspired to share, but he didn't need to insult the rest of us along the way. Nobody's death is trivial.
And I have nothing against bradshaw44. I'm sure he's a great guy.