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How does JJ fix Jonesís fumbling problem?

superspynyg : 1/12/2020 10:27 am
I see DJís biggest hurdle his fumbling. If he does not fix it next year or drastically reduce it he will not last long with this new HC. And I do not see JJ giving him more than this coming season to fix the problem.

So how does he fix it? What can he do in the off season?
First  
kes722 : 1/12/2020 10:30 am : link
Is fix the O line.

2nd core strength

3rd strip drills
I was thinking super glue,  
section125 : 1/12/2020 10:30 am : link
but obviously that won't work when passing. So velcro would probably do the trick.
RE: I was thinking super glue,  
superspynyg : 1/12/2020 10:31 am : link
In comment 14774703 section125 said:
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but obviously that won't work when passing. So velcro would probably do the trick.


Stick umí
He averaged  
XBRONX : 1/12/2020 10:31 am : link
1.5 fumbles per game. He needs to bring that down to 0.5 a game.
RE: First  
section125 : 1/12/2020 10:31 am : link
In comment 14774699 kes722 said:
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Is fix the O line.

2nd core strength

3rd strip drills


Core strength - it never hurts, but WTF has that got to do with loose hands?
Fix the OL  
JonC : 1/12/2020 10:33 am : link
teach the techniques, drill him endlessly until he demonstrates it in games.
RE: Fix the OL  
Eman11 : 1/12/2020 10:49 am : link
In comment 14774709 JonC said:
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teach the techniques, drill him endlessly until he demonstrates it in games.


Yup.

We all saw the videos of where Judge was waving a bigger tennis racket type thing in front of his WR's faces as they crossed in front of him during catching drills. Blocked their eyesight for a second or so and helped them focus and pick up the ball again.

I'd imagine he'll come up with something similar for DJ to help fix the fumbling problem in addition to the things you mentioned.
On top of everything else mentioned  
ron mexico : 1/12/2020 10:51 am : link
He needs to improve his pocket presence. That should come with reps and film study.
Set up the offense  
Mike in Boston : 1/12/2020 11:03 am : link
so he has a quick throw to someone (Barkley, Engram or Tate) who can make the first guy miss, and teach him to go there quickly if he's under pressure. And teach him to recognize when he is likely to come under pressure.

Better coaching (and better players) for the OL will help; if they play like they have seen stunts and blitzes before he won't be under pressure so much.
And small quibble  
ron mexico : 1/12/2020 11:04 am : link
But I wouldnít expect Judge to be focused on this, he should delegate to his assistants
Force Jones to slide when running rather than acting like a  
PhiPsi125 : 1/12/2020 11:15 am : link
running back. That should take a chunk of the fumbles away.
Deflate the balls.....  
thrunthrublue : 1/12/2020 11:56 am : link
Just like we did in.....whoops!
Get a center who can hold point.  
VinegarPeppers : 1/12/2020 1:05 pm : link
Get a center who can hold point. Much like Eli couldnít, Danny Dimes also could not step up into the pocket so the tackles could push their men past him.
Don't know how  
David B. : 1/12/2020 1:42 pm : link
But you can bet he WILL fix it.
Ask him nicely  
Blue Dream : 1/12/2020 1:42 pm : link
to stop fumbling
He must  
Jolly Blue Giant : 1/12/2020 1:52 pm : link
Get his timing down. Get rid of the ball a bit faster.
Aromatherapy.  
Klaatu : 1/12/2020 2:24 pm : link
How does JJ fix Jonesís fumbling problem?  
Torrag : 1/12/2020 2:26 pm : link
If the protection holds up half a tick longer and the passes come out half a tick faster they'll solve themselves for the most part.
I've seen a drill the Patriots do during practice. When Brady drops  
Blue21 : 1/12/2020 2:29 pm : link
back to pass there are two coaches or assistants on either side of him with over sized padded paddles whacking at the ball until he raises his arms enough to throw
He should just tell Jones to stop fumbling.  
Saquads Barkley : 1/12/2020 2:51 pm : link
Problem Solved.
OL #1 & relentless drilling #2 as many said no doubt  
ChaChing : 1/12/2020 3:05 pm : link
but I also think he needs to shorten his clock after the snap, especially when #1 is bad

Back when we had a DL & got serious QB pressure, teams like the Skins - whether it was w/ Grossman or RGIII (maybe Todd Collins too that one game?) - would basically have 1-2 read plays w/ max protect and a throwaway

And while many young QBs w/ wheels tuck & run too often he needs to add that to the short clock & throwaway step. It's certainly great DJ is fearless in the pocket as a rookie and keeps his eyes downfield so well (IMO that's one of those "tough to teach" skills). But we haven't seen many runs like that first TB TD where he took it decisively. And IMO it's too few and far between regardless of the OL. There were still too many times he held the ball too long trying to make a play...obviously when he's most likely to fumble

Not that we want to have as many called runs as Lamar either, but DJ's legs are a weapon that must be better used. Both by scheme and via his own better decision-making, even aside from the OL situation at any given moment
Anyone else took a minute to realize JJ wasn't  
Festina Lente : 1/12/2020 3:08 pm : link
Jenoris Jenkins? For a split second I was thinking, "why would Jackrabbit fix DJ's fumbling?". LOL, The mind is wonderful thing.
RE: Anyone else took a minute to realize JJ wasn't  
ChaChing : 1/12/2020 3:14 pm : link
In comment 14775130 Festina Lente said:
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Jenoris Jenkins? For a split second I was thinking, "why would Jackrabbit fix DJ's fumbling?". LOL, The mind is wonderful thing.

Lol me 2 - first time I thought Jerry Jones
I don't know  
Phil in LA : 1/12/2020 3:19 pm : link
but Parcells made Megget carry a football everywhere, and TC made Tiki carry it high and tight. So it may be a job for Head Coaches after all.
Heís talented enough, adaptable enough  
Big Blue '56 : 1/12/2020 3:23 pm : link
to clean it up. A better OL as discussed above would be helpful.
Tie him to the goal post  
EricJ : 1/12/2020 3:28 pm : link
and kick him in the balls every time he fumbles. Use a time out to do it if needed.

My preference..
1. Fix the OL
2. Establish a clock in his head where he stops waiting for a receiving and instead looks to run for yards.

These two should reduce the fumbles to the point where they are no longer a serious concern.
I don't know if it's a definite help, but who was the Chi DB we got  
ChaChing : 1/12/2020 3:28 pm : link
some years back who did something like - all O players carry balls even off the field & the D tries to knock them out? I might not remember the exact thing, but you'd think it makes protecting the ball instinctual for O players, while D guys scheme & practice how to get it from them, when they are holding it loose, not paying attention etc

I'd think that would have to help to a degree, and be a team-wide benefit
Dunno the stats, but he should never  
CT Charlie : 1/12/2020 11:04 pm : link
fumble while running. If anyone is near him, he should just slide.

In the pocket, start by getting a much better center.

Third, I'm sure there are virtual reality programs that develop one's peripheral vision. They may not be able to expand the actual field of vision, but they could make someone more aware of movement at the edge of the field of vision.
What player was it that had fumbling problems  
bradshaw44 : 1/12/2020 11:11 pm : link
And the coach made him carry the football around the facility all the time no matter what he was doing and everyone was instructed to knock the ball out of his hands? Everyone in the organization. And I think he was fined if anyone got the ball out.

I would do that on top of whatever field drills could help.
Even if he fixes it, this is now his reputation  
Go Terps : 1/13/2020 12:01 am : link
Every opponent is going to place extra emphasis on taking the ball from him. I'd be surprised if it ever actually gets completely solved as an issue.

To me the answer is to install an offense that has him get the ball out of his hands quickly and gets him out of the pocket quickly. I wouldn't treat him like we did Simms, Eli, or Collins. I don't think we want him spending much time in the pocket.
Fumbles twice in a game  
Rolyrock : 1/13/2020 12:13 am : link
Benched!

Judge figures out some drills, techniques to help him. Like other posters said. Get a center, and of course an overall better o line. I think if Berkeley could develop a rhythm Jones overall game gets even better, fumbles included.
By  
colin : 1/13/2020 12:14 am : link
Punching him in the nose for 60 minutes.
I donít know  
UberAlias : 1/13/2020 5:21 am : link
But if this was my problem to solve, Iíd start where you always start ó go to the tape. Start by understanding when and how within the play the fumbles are generated. Most likely theyíre not all the same. Things like two hands on the ball may work at points in the process, but not possible at others. Probably going to be some physical work (stretching, strengthening hands and fingers) and psychological (carry a ball everywhere he goes, have people try to knock it out, push-ups if he loses it, etc.). Where and how he grips, all things looked at. Improve OLine, etc.

Bottom line, Judge wants teaches on his staff, we need a good one to groom this kid. Probably the most important hire he makes.
RE: What player was it that had fumbling problems  
ron mexico : 1/13/2020 5:52 am : link
In comment 14776015 bradshaw44 said:
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And the coach made him carry the football around the facility all the time no matter what he was doing and everyone was instructed to knock the ball out of his hands? Everyone in the organization. And I think he was fined if anyone got the ball out.

I would do that on top of whatever field drills could help.


That was Omar Epps in the movie The Program.
Your basic 3 point plan:  
Jimmy Googs : 1/13/2020 7:10 am : link
- Practice where guys can hit the QB
- Draft new Offensive Tackles
- Run the ball more
With a kitchen timer.  
Motley Two : 1/13/2020 8:25 am : link
One of his better traits (keeping his eyes up the field) is facilitating one of his worse traits(ball security).

Don't want him pulling his eyes down, so he needs to get his timing down. He needs to imagine that buzzer going off.
There are tried and true drills for this stuff  
David B. : 1/13/2020 2:46 pm : link
Pat Shurmer just didn't know or didn't do them.
Hire coach Jerry Schuplinski as QB Coach  
GloryDayz : 1/13/2020 7:38 pm : link
Done.
Fixed.


;)
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