How does JJ fix Jones’s fumbling problem?

Is fix the O line.

2nd core strength

3rd strip drills

but obviously that won't work when passing. So velcro would probably do the trick.

In comment 14774703 section125 said:

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but obviously that won't work when passing. So velcro would probably do the trick.

Stick um’

1.5 fumbles per game. He needs to bring that down to 0.5 a game.

In comment 14774699 kes722 said:

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Is fix the O line. 2nd core strength 3rd strip drills

Core strength - it never hurts, but WTF has that got to do with loose hands?

teach the techniques, drill him endlessly until he demonstrates it in games.

In comment 14774709 JonC said:

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teach the techniques, drill him endlessly until he demonstrates it in games.

Yup.

We all saw the videos of where Judge was waving a bigger tennis racket type thing in front of his WR's faces as they crossed in front of him during catching drills. Blocked their eyesight for a second or so and helped them focus and pick up the ball again.

I'd imagine he'll come up with something similar for DJ to help fix the fumbling problem in addition to the things you mentioned.

He needs to improve his pocket presence. That should come with reps and film study.

so he has a quick throw to someone (Barkley, Engram or Tate) who can make the first guy miss, and teach him to go there quickly if he's under pressure. And teach him to recognize when he is likely to come under pressure.

Better coaching (and better players) for the OL will help; if they play like they have seen stunts and blitzes before he won't be under pressure so much.

But I wouldn’t expect Judge to be focused on this, he should delegate to his assistants

running back. That should take a chunk of the fumbles away.

Just like we did in.....whoops!

Get a center who can hold point. Much like Eli couldn’t, Danny Dimes also could not step up into the pocket so the tackles could push their men past him.

But you can bet he WILL fix it.

to stop fumbling

Get his timing down. Get rid of the ball a bit faster.

If the protection holds up half a tick longer and the passes come out half a tick faster they'll solve themselves for the most part.

back to pass there are two coaches or assistants on either side of him with over sized padded paddles whacking at the ball until he raises his arms enough to throw

Problem Solved.

but I also think he needs to shorten his clock after the snap, especially when #1 is bad

Back when we had a DL & got serious QB pressure, teams like the Skins - whether it was w/ Grossman or RGIII (maybe Todd Collins too that one game?) - would basically have 1-2 read plays w/ max protect and a throwaway

And while many young QBs w/ wheels tuck & run too often he needs to add that to the short clock & throwaway step. It's certainly great DJ is fearless in the pocket as a rookie and keeps his eyes downfield so well (IMO that's one of those "tough to teach" skills). But we haven't seen many runs like that first TB TD where he took it decisively. And IMO it's too few and far between regardless of the OL. There were still too many times he held the ball too long trying to make a play...obviously when he's most likely to fumble

Not that we want to have as many called runs as Lamar either, but DJ's legs are a weapon that must be better used. Both by scheme and via his own better decision-making, even aside from the OL situation at any given moment

Jenoris Jenkins? For a split second I was thinking, "why would Jackrabbit fix DJ's fumbling?". LOL, The mind is wonderful thing.

In comment 14775130 Festina Lente said:

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Jenoris Jenkins? For a split second I was thinking, "why would Jackrabbit fix DJ's fumbling?". LOL, The mind is wonderful thing.

Lol me 2 - first time I thought Jerry Jones

but Parcells made Megget carry a football everywhere, and TC made Tiki carry it high and tight. So it may be a job for Head Coaches after all.

to clean it up. A better OL as discussed above would be helpful.

and kick him in the balls every time he fumbles. Use a time out to do it if needed.

My preference..
1. Fix the OL
2. Establish a clock in his head where he stops waiting for a receiving and instead looks to run for yards.

These two should reduce the fumbles to the point where they are no longer a serious concern.

some years back who did something like - all O players carry balls even off the field & the D tries to knock them out? I might not remember the exact thing, but you'd think it makes protecting the ball instinctual for O players, while D guys scheme & practice how to get it from them, when they are holding it loose, not paying attention etc

I'd think that would have to help to a degree, and be a team-wide benefit

fumble while running. If anyone is near him, he should just slide.

In the pocket, start by getting a much better center.

Third, I'm sure there are virtual reality programs that develop one's peripheral vision. They may not be able to expand the actual field of vision, but they could make someone more aware of movement at the edge of the field of vision.

And the coach made him carry the football around the facility all the time no matter what he was doing and everyone was instructed to knock the ball out of his hands? Everyone in the organization. And I think he was fined if anyone got the ball out.

I would do that on top of whatever field drills could help.

Every opponent is going to place extra emphasis on taking the ball from him. I'd be surprised if it ever actually gets completely solved as an issue.

To me the answer is to install an offense that has him get the ball out of his hands quickly and gets him out of the pocket quickly. I wouldn't treat him like we did Simms, Eli, or Collins. I don't think we want him spending much time in the pocket.

Benched!

Judge figures out some drills, techniques to help him. Like other posters said. Get a center, and of course an overall better o line. I think if Berkeley could develop a rhythm Jones overall game gets even better, fumbles included.

Punching him in the nose for 60 minutes.

But if this was my problem to solve, I’d start where you always start — go to the tape. Start by understanding when and how within the play the fumbles are generated. Most likely they’re not all the same. Things like two hands on the ball may work at points in the process, but not possible at others. Probably going to be some physical work (stretching, strengthening hands and fingers) and psychological (carry a ball everywhere he goes, have people try to knock it out, push-ups if he loses it, etc.). Where and how he grips, all things looked at. Improve OLine, etc.

Bottom line, Judge wants teaches on his staff, we need a good one to groom this kid. Probably the most important hire he makes.

In comment 14776015 bradshaw44 said:

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And the coach made him carry the football around the facility all the time no matter what he was doing and everyone was instructed to knock the ball out of his hands? Everyone in the organization. And I think he was fined if anyone got the ball out. I would do that on top of whatever field drills could help.

That was Omar Epps in the movie The Program.

- Practice where guys can hit the QB
- Draft new Offensive Tackles
- Run the ball more

One of his better traits (keeping his eyes up the field) is facilitating one of his worse traits(ball security).

Don't want him pulling his eyes down, so he needs to get his timing down. He needs to imagine that buzzer going off.

Pat Shurmer just didn't know or didn't do them.

Done.
Fixed.


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