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Schwartz NYP: Judge will also consider Aaron Glenn for DC

Defenderdawg : 1/12/2020 11:57 am
“ Another NFL assistant Judge will consider for defensive coordinator is Aaron Glenn, according to a source. Glenn, 47, is the Saints’ defensive backs coach. He played 15 years in the NFL and was the Jets’ first-round draft pick in 1994. Glenn was a Jets scout in 2012 and 2013.”
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BleedBlue : 1/12/2020 11:58 am : link
so going the unproven route there with glenn.

i dont think the saints were that good on the backend this year....were they?


i guess we arent getting a household super experienced DC


We don’t need “super experienced”  
UConn4523 : 1/12/2020 12:01 pm : link
in the sense that they’ve played calls for a long time. We need someone who buys into Judge and will adapt weekly like he wants to. A guy playing in the league for 15 years and then scouting/coaching for another 7 isn’t not “inexperienced”.
Texas A&M is not in the Ivy League.  
Darth Paul : 1/12/2020 12:02 pm : link
I would much rather get a position coach and give him a shot at DC. Glenn or Johnson fit that bill. Any DC making a lateral move from a bad defensive team is not someone I think can improve our defense. We just went through that. It was a disaster.
RE: We don’t need “super experienced”  
BleedBlue : 1/12/2020 12:03 pm : link
In comment 14774870 UConn4523 said:
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in the sense that they’ve played calls for a long time. We need someone who buys into Judge and will adapt weekly like he wants to. A guy playing in the league for 15 years and then scouting/coaching for another 7 isn’t not “inexperienced”.


i meant inexperienced calling the defense. big difference in being a scout and calling the actual game on sundays.

I getr this we need judges guys but we are acting like he is BB. these inexperienced guys are a big risk. praying it works out though
I guess let him get who he’s comfortable with  
Rflairr : 1/12/2020 12:04 pm : link
Just some experienced guys with excellent resumes available. Wilks, Wade, Richard, Miranelli, etc.. you hate to take a chance on a first time DC with those guys out there
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Big Rick in FL : 1/12/2020 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14774864 BleedBlue said:
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so going the unproven route there with glenn.

i dont think the saints were that good on the backend this year....were they?


i guess we arent getting a household super experienced DC


They were 19th in the NFL in yards allowed. That's a hard stat to judge a team though. Saints were normally ahead so teams had to pass.

They were also 7th in yards per completion and 9th in completion percentage.
Called plays  
UConn4523 : 1/12/2020 12:05 pm : link
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RE: I guess let him get who he’s comfortable with  
BleedBlue : 1/12/2020 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14774881 Rflairr said:
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Just some experienced guys with excellent resumes available. Wilks, Wade, Richard, Miranelli, etc.. you hate to take a chance on a first time DC with those guys out there


this was more to my point. i worry about taking risks on both coord positions. maybe an experience OC?
Bleed Blue  
UConn4523 : 1/12/2020 12:06 pm : link
we need to go all in, IMO. Let him pick whoever he wants and go get to work. The Giants should not be insisting on anyone.
You also have to consider that this is going to  
UConn4523 : 1/12/2020 12:07 pm : link
take a couple years. The culture isn’t changing over night, put people in place you trust can build the program with you. Education was the #1 word Judge used in his presser, guessing that was on purpose. He wants teachers not gurus.
A tweet about Glenn  
Big Rick in FL : 1/12/2020 12:09 pm : link
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@WBG84: In 2018, Glenn was a candidate for the Patriots defensive coordinator job per @RapSheet. Bill Belichick was the Jets DC when Glenn was there as a player.
RE: Bleed Blue  
BleedBlue : 1/12/2020 12:15 pm : link
In comment 14774888 UConn4523 said:
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we need to go all in, IMO. Let him pick whoever he wants and go get to work. The Giants should not be insisting on anyone.


im all in...doesnt mean i wont be a little hesistant lol
RE: A tweet about Glenn  
Rflairr : 1/12/2020 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14774906 Big Rick in FL said:
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@WBG84: In 2018, Glenn was a candidate for the Patriots defensive coordinator job per @RapSheet. Bill Belichick was the Jets DC when Glenn was there as a player.



If true, he might be getting recs from Belichick
Saints media guide  
Defenderdawg : 1/12/2020 12:27 pm : link
“ Aaron Glenn brings 22 years of NFL playing, front office and coaching experience to the Saints staff in his fourth season as an assistant in New Orleans.
In his first three seasons in New Orleans, the defensive backs have played a pivotal role in the club’s defensive improvement. CB Marshon Lattimore enjoyed a breakout campaign in 2017, starting all 13 games he appeared in and leading NFL rookies with a team-high five interceptions and tying for the rookie lead with a club-best 18 passes defensed as he was the youngest Saint (21 years old) ever selected to the Pro Bowl and the franchise’s first AP Defensive Rookie of the Year. In 2018, Lattimore continued his development, leading the team with five takeaways in the regular season, adding two interceptions in the NFC Divisional Playoff win over Philadelphia. At the corner position opposite Lattimore in 2018, Glenn helped Eli Apple make a successful in-season transition to the Saints after being acquired from the New York Giants, recording three takeaways in ten games. He has been instrumental in the development in two young safeties in Vonn Bell and Marcus Williams, who went from second round draft selections in 2016 and 2017 to starters. Bell has led the secondary in tackles for three consecutive seasons, finishing with 87 stops in 2018. In 2018, Williams started all 16 games at free safety and recorded two interception returns for 100 yards and one fumble recovery.
From 2014-15, Glenn served as assistant secondary coach with the Cleveland Browns. In a 2015 campaign where Pro Bowl CB Joe Haden played in only five games due to injuries, Cleveland’s secondary was led by veterans in S Donte Whitner and CB Tramon Williams, who led the defensive backfield with 81 and 69 tackles respectively. In 2014, Glenn worked with a group that garnered Pro Bowl honors from S Tashaun Gipson, Haden and Whitner, marking the first time in team history that three defensive backs were selected. The Browns led the NFL in opponent passer rating (74.1), completion percentage (57.1) and passes defensed (99). Cleveland finished second in the league with 21 interceptions, the team’s highest total since 2008. They also finished ranked fifth in the league in yards per pass attempt (6.44), fifth in red zone defense (46.3) and ninth in points per game (21.1). Cleveland was also the only team to have two players with at least 18 passes defensed, as Haden led the team and finished second in the league with 20, while CB Buster Skrine tied for fourth with 18. Despite missing the final five games, Gipson finished second in the NFL with six interceptions, the most by a Brown since 2010.
Before joining the Browns, Glenn spent two seasons (2012-13) in the New York A first-round pick (12th overall) by the Jets in 1994 out of Texas A&M, Glenn started 176 of his 205 career games during his tenure with New York (1994-2001), Houston (2002-04), Dallas (2005-06), Jacksonville (2007) and New Orleans (2008).
A three-time Pro Bowler (1997-98, 2002), he recorded 661 career tackles, 41 interceptions and 167 passes defensed. Glenn scored eight career touchdowns, including six interception returns, a 96-yard kickoff return and a 104-yard return on a missed field goal.
Glenn earned a bachelor’s degree in business management from Texas A&M, where he was a two-time All-American, departing as the school’s all-time leader in passes defensed in a season (20), season punt-return average (19.9) and punt return yards in a game (131). In 2003, the Humble, Texas native established the Aaron Glenn Foundation, which supports education and health initiatives for families and children.”

https://www.neworleanssaints.com/team/coaches-roster/aaron-glenn

Sean Payton’s end of season press conference (2020)

“You’ve had a pretty cohesive assistant coaching unit, do you think that might change starting with a loss yesterday?
“Well, we lost Mike (Nolan) yesterday. Congrats to him. We’re excited that he has that opportunity. I've said this before, look, when people are calling and interested, that's a good thing. I think it's good for those guys to have those opportunities. It's a little bit more nerve wracking when no one's calling, but I think we've got a handful of coaches on this staff that I think someday will be in a position or have that opportunity hopefully. But Mike was the first one that we got a request sent in for.”

Sean Payton’s press conference prior to Vikings game (2020)

“ Cam Jordan was talking about the maturation of your secondary. These guys were rookies in 2016 and 2017 and playing in big games and now three years later they’re just so different. From your perspective, what do you see in the growth from so many of those guys?
“It started with that draft class a few years ago. When you’re adding players like (Marshon) Lattimore, we’ve been able to draft both at the safety and corner position, Vonn (Bell) and Mike (Thomas) and those guys have all been important acquisitions for us. I would say even recently as we have had to sign players. Kiko Alonso who’s not in the secondary, but at that time Alex Anzalone was healthy. A week or two later, all of a sudden there's an injury. That same thing happened with us at corner. I think Aaron Glenn and those guys on defense have done a good job. There’s been, like every team, there's some moving pieces. When guys get hurt, we have a few different guys playing nickel. A guy like Patrick Robinson comes back off the injury and has really played some solid downs for us. P.J. (Williams), the same way. We draft C.J. (Gardner-Johnson) who I think’s had an outstanding rookie season. We've done a good job bringing in the right players and especially through the draft, but also with some free agent signings.”

From 2-04-2019

“The Cincinnati Bengals reportedly have been blocked from interviewing New Orleans Saints secondary coach Aaron Glenn for the team's vacant defensive coordinator position, according to Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network.

Josina Anderson of ESPN previously reported the Bengals had been in communication with the Saints asking for permission to interview Glenn.

The Bengals had previously offered the job to Todd Grantham, per Michael David Smith of Pro Football Talk, but he instead accepted a contract extension with the Florida Gators that will pay him $1.8 million per year and keep him as the team's defensive coordinator.

Glenn, 46, was a three-time Pro Bowler in his NFL career. After his playing days, he spent two seasons with the New York Jets (2012-13) as a pro personnel scout and college area scout. In 2014-15, he was an assistant secondary coach for the Cleveland Browns before joining the Saints in 2016 and becoming the team's secondary coach.
Under his watch, he helped develop young players like Marshon Lattimore, Vonn Bell and Marcus Williams, all staples of the team's secondary. While the Saints finished 29th in pass yards allowed per game this season (269) and tied for 20th in passing touchdowns allowed (30), the duo of Lattimore (78.3, 16th amongst cornerbacks) and Bell (74.1, 24th amongst safeties) graded out nicely at Pro Football Focus.“
RE: RE: A tweet about Glenn  
Nine-Tails : 1/12/2020 12:31 pm : link
In comment 14774952 Rflairr said:
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@WBG84: In 2018, Glenn was a candidate for the Patriots defensive coordinator job per @RapSheet. Bill Belichick was the Jets DC when Glenn was there as a player.





If true, he might be getting recs from Belichick


I can see that
Know more about him as a player  
Biteymax22 : 1/12/2020 12:33 pm : link
Than I do as a coach.

Seemed to get more out of Eli Apple than our coaches were able to, but beyond that I can’t really comment.
I guess anyone who can  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/12/2020 12:54 pm : link
make Eli Apple look serviceable is probably a guy they should look at.
Judge said he is looking  
section125 : 1/12/2020 12:59 pm : link
for teachers. Guys who have the ability to coach players and get concepts through to the player.

I wouldn't let experience be the only criteria is assessing his staff. He likely knows guys that can stuff through clearly to players.
Had no idea was coaching until last week  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/12/2020 1:14 pm : link
He got into a heated argument with Marshon Lattimore after Lattimore gave up a big completion to Adam Thielan. The guy seems feisty and in your face.
RE: Judge said he is looking  
GiantsRage2007 : 1/12/2020 1:40 pm : link
In comment 14775010 section125 said:
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for teachers. Guys who have the ability to coach players and get concepts through to the player.

I wouldn't let experience be the only criteria is assessing his staff. He likely knows guys that can stuff through clearly to players.


I was going to post this exact thought.
Think Judge will micro manage every aspectv of the entire team  
TMS : 1/12/2020 2:01 pm : link
Just as he is looking very hard at all the people he wants as coordinators and assistants. Loving it myself . It is always about results so I wish him well. Maybe this is what this franchise needs.
Nothing..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/12/2020 2:07 pm : link
to do with the topic, but I just googled Glenn and had completely forgot that Terry Glenn had died.
From what I can tell, Judge is looking for the following...  
EricJ : 1/12/2020 2:17 pm : link
in his DC..

1. the candidate will need to develop the defensive game plan and schemes without Judge. He will need to be totally responsible for the defensive unit.
2. Someone who can also manage and hold the defensive assistants accountable.

So, this is more than just knowing how to be a defensive back. Maybe Aaron can do all of this... but it will be a requirement.
RE: RE: I guess let him get who he’s comfortable with  
Photoguy : 1/12/2020 2:40 pm : link
In comment 14774887 BleedBlue said:
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Just some experienced guys with excellent resumes available. Wilks, Wade, Richard, Miranelli, etc.. you hate to take a chance on a first time DC with those guys out there



this was more to my point. i worry about taking risks on both coord positions. maybe an experience OC?



We don't know what he knows, and I'd be willing to guess he's done his homework. We look at names, he's looking at results. I said early on, he's not going to leave any stone unturned. The way it looks to me is, he wants this team to grow as a unit together.
Eric - I think just the opposite  
Dave on the UWS : 1/12/2020 3:09 pm : link
Judge wants people that can be flexible with their schemes, both offensively and defensively. There’s NOTHING that will take place that he’s not in control of. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to re-watch the press conference.
was a heck of a player  
fanofthejets : 1/12/2020 3:28 pm : link
Really deserved to go to more than just 3 pro bowls. Had such incredible closing speed. Was great at baiting qb's into picks

Not sure he's ready to be a defensive coordinator so soon.
This could go eith well with the unknown  
micky : 1/12/2020 3:28 pm : link
Or fall flat on their faces with no middle ground
RE: was a heck of a player  
Big Rick in FL : 1/12/2020 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14775168 fanofthejets said:
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Really deserved to go to more than just 3 pro bowls. Had such incredible closing speed. Was great at baiting qb's into picks

Not sure he's ready to be a defensive coordinator so soon.


So soon? He was an assistant DB coach for 2 years and has been the Saints DB coach for 4 years.
One of Parcells guys  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/12/2020 5:05 pm : link
with the Jets and Saints. Be interested to hear Tuna's thoughts.
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