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Giants Hire Graham as DC

BeckShepEli : 1/12/2020 5:19 pm
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Hmmmm  
Shock-Man : 1/12/2020 5:20 pm : link
🤔
Yes..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/12/2020 5:20 pm : link
bring on the white Yale guy!!
.  
BeckShepEli : 1/12/2020 5:20 pm : link
Tom Pelissero is reporting
Verified?  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/12/2020 5:21 pm : link
If so, please sticky.
Yeah  
jeff57 : 1/12/2020 5:22 pm : link
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The Kent Graham?  
BUgiantfan : 1/12/2020 5:22 pm : link
Seriously, I have no idea who this is.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2020 5:22 pm : link
Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero
The #Giants are hiring Patrick Graham as their defensive coordinator, source said.
RE: The Kent Graham?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2020 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14775414 BUgiantfan said:
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Seriously, I have no idea who this is.


Read the front page.
. .. .  
jeff57 : 1/12/2020 5:24 pm : link
Wagner (2002–2003)
Graduate assistant

Richmond (2004)
Defensive line coach

Richmond (2005–2006)
Tight ends coach

Notre Dame (2007–2008)
Graduate assistant

Toledo (2009)
Defensive line

New England Patriots (2009)
Coaching assistant

New England Patriots (2010)
Defensive assistant

New England Patriots (2011)
Linebackers coach

New England Patriots (2012–2013)
Defensive line coach

New England Patriots (2014–2015)
Linebackers coach

New York Giants (2016–2017)
Defensive line coach

Green Bay Packers (2018)
Linebackers coach & run game coordinator

Miami Dolphins (2019)
Defensive coordinator

New York Giants (2020-Present)
Defensive coordinator
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2020 5:24 pm : link
Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero
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2m
The #Dolphins are expected to promote Josh Boyer to defensive coordinator, sources say. He replaces Patrick Graham, who’s leaving to become the #Giants’ DC.
Pat Graham’s Wiki page  
cosmicj : 1/12/2020 5:24 pm : link
Believe it or not, it’s already been updated.

Patrick Graham - ( New Window )
Guess we’re staying in a 3-4  
jeff57 : 1/12/2020 5:24 pm : link
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....  
ryanmkeane : 1/12/2020 5:24 pm : link
guess this is a “wait and see” kinda move but he’s well regarded around the league as an up and comer. Like his experience with linebackers as well.
Why did Miami  
section125 : 1/12/2020 5:25 pm : link
let him go?
Yale grad  
Pete in MD : 1/12/2020 5:26 pm : link
who almost joined the CIA. Bonesman?
Background in dl and lb units  
Nine-Tails : 1/12/2020 5:26 pm : link
Hoping he helps in improving our front seven. Seems to have done good work as position coach. You can't really blame him for the Dolphins defensive performance considering their lack of talent.
RE: Guess we’re staying in a 3-4  
cjac : 1/12/2020 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14775422 jeff57 said:
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Not based on what Judge said after his press conference
RE: Why did Miami  
Jolly Blue Giant : 1/12/2020 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14775424 section125 said:
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let him go?

That’s the million dollar question.
RE: Why did Miami  
jeff57 : 1/12/2020 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14775424 section125 said:
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let him go?


They didn’t,
If Carl Banks likes him  
joeinpa : 1/12/2020 5:27 pm : link
Good enough for me. Actually value his opinion over any poster, no offense intended.
RE: RE: Why did Miami  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2020 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14775429 jeff57 said:
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let him go?



They didn’t,


They did. The Giants needed the permission of the Dolphins to even talk to him.
RE: Yes..  
Biteymax22 : 1/12/2020 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14775406 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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bring on the white Yale guy!!


I can’t tell if this is sarcastic or not...
This is a combination  
Matt in SGS : 1/12/2020 5:29 pm : link
of anyone but James Bettcher and I like that the Giants are letting Judge pick his guys. Clearly he wanted to work with him again and it works out. Also, up until his late season surge, the best football Tomlinson played was under Graham as a rookie.
Seems like a decent hire  
MookGiants : 1/12/2020 5:30 pm : link
but the Dolphins letting him leave is concerning.
Ironically, he was torched in Miami...  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/12/2020 5:30 pm : link
... for failing to find creative ways to generate a pass rush. So he should feel at home here.
Miami Herald: Graham feels the heat for lack of heat. - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Why did Miami  
section125 : 1/12/2020 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14775429 jeff57 said:
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let him go?



They didn’t,


He was their DC. Gave the Giants permission to interview. They let him leave.
RE: RE: RE: Why did Miami  
jeff57 : 1/12/2020 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14775432 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14775429 jeff57 said:


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In comment 14775424 section125 said:


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let him go?



They didn’t,



They did. The Giants needed the permission of the Dolphins to even talk to him.


Oh, I thought the claim was that Miami had fired him.
Miami’s defense was bad (even if it improved somewhat)  
Essex : 1/12/2020 5:31 pm : link
and Miami didn’t want to keep him. Those are legit questions, doesn’t mean he is bad or sucks or whatever, just curious about it.

And the fact that Banks likes him doesn’t cancel out that Flores, an up and coming coach, did not apparently value him enough to block this.
RE: RE: Yes..  
Del Shofner : 1/12/2020 5:32 pm : link
In comment 14775437 Biteymax22 said:
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bring on the white Yale guy!!



I can’t tell if this is sarcastic or not...


Trust me, it is.
It could be Flores helping his friend Judge  
Jay on the Island : 1/12/2020 5:33 pm : link
Because he feels Boyer is ready for a promotion.
Not impressed  
jeff57 : 1/12/2020 5:33 pm : link
But I wasn’t impressed with the Judge hiring either
RE: Yes..  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/12/2020 5:34 pm : link
FatMan in Charlotte said:
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bring on the white Yale guy!!
That might be JAEDEN Graham (the Falcon tight end).
Might as well hire Chad O’Shea  
jeff57 : 1/12/2020 5:34 pm : link
As the OC. Would make the NE/Miami connection complete.
Not adding anything to the discussion but he shares a birthday  
BestFeature : 1/12/2020 5:35 pm : link
with Sean McVay.
I hope he hires a former HC for OC  
Essex : 1/12/2020 5:37 pm : link
experience matters
RE: Ironically, he was torched in Miami...  
Jay on the Island : 1/12/2020 5:37 pm : link
In comment 14775442 Big Blue Blogger said:
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... for failing to find creative ways to generate a pass rush. So he should feel at home here. Miami Herald: Graham feels the heat for lack of heat. - ( New Window )

The Phins pass rush is so bad it makes the giants look like 49ers. Avery Moss was the opening day starting at one OLB spot across from bust Charles Harris.
I don’t  
cokeduplt : 1/12/2020 5:37 pm : link
Love this, but what do I know, hopefully he’s great
RE: It could be Flores helping his friend Judge  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 1/12/2020 5:38 pm : link
In comment 14775449 Jay on the Island said:
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Because he feels Boyer is ready for a promotion.


This is exactly what I thought
They had some injuries, but that Dolphins defense  
mikeinbloomfield : 1/12/2020 5:38 pm : link
was extremely bad. They had the kind of year where guys get fired and you don’t hear from them again, not given higher profile jobs. Last in the league in scoring defense. Last in the league according to Football Outsiders.
RE: It could be Flores helping his friend Judge  
Big Blue '56 : 1/12/2020 5:38 pm : link
In comment 14775449 Jay on the Island said:
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Because he feels Boyer is ready for a promotion.


I think that makes the most sense. Graham wanted to return to NY and work with Judge. They’re all friends. Sometimes, even in sports, that matters. :)
RE: I hope he hires a former HC for OC  
Jay on the Island : 1/12/2020 5:39 pm : link
In comment 14775463 Essex said:
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experience matters

I’m hoping for Jay Gruden for OC and Bill Callahan OL coach.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2020 5:41 pm : link
From Flores when he was hired by Miami: “Pat is a Yale guy. He’s extremely bright. He is great with the fundamentals and has very strong leadership ability. I can’t say enough good things about him. We worked together in New England and I know the type of passion he has and the way he works. We have a lot of the same core values and beliefs from a defensive standpoint.”

He's a good guy and highly thought of...  
wma31 : 1/12/2020 5:41 pm : link
and he's a funny guy. Not that it makes a difference, but this is my best memory of him in Miami. lol
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I thought the conventional wisdom  
RDJR : 1/12/2020 5:41 pm : link
was to have coordinators with previous head coaching experience?
Not sure about this - seems like a stretch  
PatersonPlank : 1/12/2020 5:41 pm : link
Ideally I'd like to take a flyer on someone from a successful team or program (like Judge), not Miami
RE: Not sure about this - seems like a stretch  
Jay on the Island : 1/12/2020 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14775477 PatersonPlank said:
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Ideally I'd like to take a flyer on someone from a successful team or program (like Judge), not Miami

Graham spent years in New England before his one season in Miami.
RE: They had some injuries, but that Dolphins defense  
Big Rick in FL : 1/12/2020 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14775468 mikeinbloomfield said:
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was extremely bad. They had the kind of year where guys get fired and you don’t hear from them again, not given higher profile jobs. Last in the league in scoring defense. Last in the league according to Football Outsiders.


The Dolphins had the least talented defense in the NFL by far without injuries. Then they traded Minkah and lost Xavien Howard for the year.
Preference  
Shock-Man : 1/12/2020 5:43 pm : link
Would have been Aaron Glenn I think between the two.

Maybe there is still a way he gets involved
RE: ...  
twostepgiants : 1/12/2020 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14775474 Eric from BBI said:
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From Flores when he was hired by Miami: “Pat is a Yale guy. He’s extremely bright. He is great with the fundamentals and has very strong leadership ability. I can’t say enough good things about him. We worked together in New England and I know the type of passion he has and the way he works. We have a lot of the same core values and beliefs from a defensive standpoint.”


This is why he makes sense as a hire. judge needs someone who understands what he is trying instill here.
This is not an inspiring hire  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 1/12/2020 5:44 pm : link
. It's just not.
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