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Giants Hire Graham as DC

BeckShepEli : 1/12/2020 5:19 pm
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RE: RE: SF Defense was 28th...  
Brown_Hornet : 1/13/2020 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14776870 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14776833 Brown_Hornet said:


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...in 2018.

8th in 2019.

I'm looking forward to 2020.



Without checking, my question is were injuries a factor? Was SF banged up in 2018 and healthy in 2019? Just curious.

Don't know but 25th in 2017.

Point is, huge jumps are possible.
RE: RE: RE: SF Defense was 28th...  
Klaatu : 1/13/2020 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14776966 Brown_Hornet said:
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...in 2018.

8th in 2019.

I'm looking forward to 2020.



Without checking, my question is were injuries a factor? Was SF banged up in 2018 and healthy in 2019? Just curious.


Don't know but 25th in 2017.

Point is, huge jumps are possible.


Point taken. Hopefully the Giants will play their cards right in free agency and the draft with regard to their defense. It sure would be nice to have at least one player that opposing offenses have to account for. I hope Graham is the goods, too, and can bring out the best in the guys we already have who underachieved this year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: SF Defense was 28th...  
Jim from Katonah : 1/13/2020 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14777019 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14776966 Brown_Hornet said:


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...in 2018.

8th in 2019.

I'm looking forward to 2020.



Without checking, my question is were injuries a factor? Was SF banged up in 2018 and healthy in 2019? Just curious.


Don't know but 25th in 2017.

Point is, huge jumps are possible.



Point taken. Hopefully the Giants will play their cards right in free agency and the draft with regard to their defense. It sure would be nice to have at least one player that opposing offenses have to account for. I hope Graham is the goods, too, and can bring out the best in the guys we already have who underachieved this year.


Amen to that!
Won't matter if he doesn't get good players  
Soundtrack : 1/13/2020 4:34 pm : link
DG screwed over the last DC, Graham won't fare any better without talent.
RE: Won't matter if he doesn't get good players  
Klaatu : 1/13/2020 4:49 pm : link
In comment 14777352 Soundtrack said:
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DG screwed over the last DC, Graham won't fare any better without talent.


How did DG screw over Bettcher? By signing five of his old Cardinal players? By drafting Carter, Hill, and McIntosh in his first year, and Lawrence, Baker, Ximines, Connelly, Love, and Ballentine in his second?

To borrow from Vince McMahon, "Betch screwed Betch."
RE: RE: Won't matter if he doesn't get good players  
Soundtrack : 1/13/2020 5:08 pm : link
In comment 14777376 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14777352 Soundtrack said:


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DG screwed over the last DC, Graham won't fare any better without talent.



How did DG screw over Bettcher? By signing five of his old Cardinal players? By drafting Carter, Hill, and McIntosh in his first year, and Lawrence, Baker, Ximines, Connelly, Love, and Ballentine in his second?

To borrow from Vince McMahon, "Betch screwed Betch."


Not one of those players was an established NFL talent outside of 35 year old Bethea. The overwhelming majority of those cardinals had their best seasons 4 years ago in 2016. Even Golden, the one signing DG has made outside of Dixon and a bunch of other ST players that has worked out, he was thought to be a one year wonder until he proved he could still play in 2019 after fully recovering from his injuries.

No DC would have had any success with the utter crap DG gave Bettcher to work with.

You don't win 9 games over 2 years because of bad coaching. You guys constantly pin blame on Shurmur and Bettcher. Were they great coaches? Nope. But they were also set up to fail from day 1 with this roster. Nobody could have done better with this group.
Oh, puh-leeze.  
Klaatu : 1/13/2020 5:26 pm : link
Nobody did less with more than Bettcher. But thanks to him we got to see Kareem Martin, Olsen Pierre, and Antoine "Whiplash" Bethea in action. I'm looking forward to watching that highlight reel.

As for Shurmur he was just another example of the Peter Principle. He was a good coordinator who rose to the level of incompetence as a head coach. The NFL is littered with them.
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