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Having a good tight end

giant power : 1/12/2020 8:09 pm
Watching these playoff games has really driven home the importance of having a competent tight end. The emergence of our own Kaden Smith was an unexpected surprise and also gave a big boost to the running game. I think Smith ultimately lacks elite skills but can be a useful player and a good running mate for a front line player.

I have had my eye on Austin Hooper as a possible target in free agency. The Falcons are up against it big time with cap space. They will have a difficult time keeping their better free agents. Since entering the league 4 years ago, Hooper has made steady improvement. He is a solid two way player, has good size at 6'4 255 lbs, is only 25 yrs old and his stock is on the rise. This year, he caught 75 balls which was 4th among TEs. He amassed 787 YRDS total for 6th on the list and had 6 TDs. He accomplished this in only 13 games. Another stat I like is out of the 13 games he played, he caught 6 or more balls in 8 of those games.

I don't know if this guy is on anybody else's radar, but I like the idea of having two young tight ends going forward that can be utilized in multiple sets. It is a positive in assisting the OL in the running game while adding versatility to the passing game. Anyone have any thoughts or insights on this player?
Hooper is another ex Stanford TE  
Jay on the Island : 1/12/2020 8:15 pm : link
Plus there is yet another Stanford TE in this years draft in Colby Parkinson. I would rather spend the FA money to fix the defense but I am in full support of using a draft pick on a TE.
RE: Hooper is another ex Stanford TE  
Klaatu : 1/12/2020 8:25 pm : link
In comment 14775811 Jay on the Island said:
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Plus there is yet another Stanford TE in this years draft in Colby Parkinson. I would rather spend the FA money to fix the defense but I am in full support of using a draft pick on a TE.


Yeah, I'd love to sign Hooper if we could, but with Williams and our other needs, I don't know if we'd be able to make it happen.

I'd like to draft another TE, too, but we're already down one pick as it is, so I don't know if that's doable, either.
Kaden Smith was a 5th rd pick  
George from PA : 1/12/2020 8:50 pm : link
Drafted right before we drafted Ballentine.

DG gets credit for jumping on him when he became available....like getting another 5th rd pick off waivers.
I like the kid from Missouri, Albert Okweugbunam.  
Klaatu : 1/12/2020 8:56 pm : link
Another player whose last name would drive Eric nuts.
Free Agents  
Earl the goat : 1/12/2020 9:03 pm : link
Hunter Henry and Blake Jarwin
Kaden  
muhajir : 1/12/2020 9:09 pm : link
Was really good. If the FO decides to deal engram in the offseason Hooper would be a great signing. Still ascending player.
I like Jared Pinkney  
Leg of Theismann : 1/12/2020 9:10 pm : link
from Vanderbilt, in the 4th or 5th round. He's aggressive/nasty player both in blocking and run after the catch. We need a guy who can do both and I think he's worth giving a chance here.
RE: Free Agents  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/12/2020 9:11 pm : link
In comment 14775876 Earl the goat said:
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Hunter Henry and Blake Jarwin


If you guys think Engram is hurt often, Henry is the poster child for being on the DL
Engram  
Paulie Walnuts : 1/12/2020 9:13 pm : link
Really should be a big WR
How about a big ugly ?  
Manny in CA : 1/12/2020 9:49 pm : link

Like the Steelers' Vance McDonald, somebody that can move people and has good enough hands to get a first down when you need one.
RE: RE: Hooper is another ex Stanford TE  
Jay on the Island : 1/12/2020 9:52 pm : link
In comment 14775838 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14775811 Jay on the Island said:


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Plus there is yet another Stanford TE in this years draft in Colby Parkinson. I would rather spend the FA money to fix the defense but I am in full support of using a draft pick on a TE.



Yeah, I'd love to sign Hooper if we could, but with Williams and our other needs, I don't know if we'd be able to make it happen.

I'd like to draft another TE, too, but we're already down one pick as it is, so I don't know if that's doable, either.

I wouldn't want them to use a pick in the first two days on a TE, unless they traded Engram. I wouldn't be opposed to them taking one at some point on day 3. Try to target a solid blocker who was underutilized in college ala Kittle.
RE:  
Klaatu : 1/12/2020 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14775947 Jay on the Island said:
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I wouldn't want them to use a pick in the first two days on a TE, unless they traded Engram. I wouldn't be opposed to them taking one at some point on day 3. Try to target a solid blocker who was underutilized in college ala Kittle.


My last post was unclear. I would only look to draft a TE if we didn't sign one in free agency. If that was the case, I wouldn't rule out a day two pick if a good prospect happened to fall to us. Have to see how the draft shakes out.

I figure Ellison's a goner. As for Engram...no one wanted to draft him more than I did, but he's been a big disappointment to say the least. Might have been better if we'd been able to move him last season. Now he's damaged goods...again. Lousy situation.
I opened this thread expecting something totally different  
Mike from Ohio : 1/12/2020 10:36 pm : link
BBI let me down.
Hooper is overrated.  
KWALL2 : 1/12/2020 10:52 pm : link
Hes ok but that guys seems to pile on the stats late in blowout games.

Were good with Engram and Smith. One of the few positions we dont have to worry about in 2020 is TE.
RE: Hooper is overrated.  
Klaatu : 1/12/2020 11:09 pm : link
In comment 14775998 KWALL2 said:
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Hes ok but that guys seems to pile on the stats late in blowout games.

Were good with Engram and Smith. One of the few positions we dont have to worry about in 2020 is TE.


Engram has missed 14 games in the past three years. He played in 15 in 2017, 11 in 2018, and 8 in 2019. Can you really count on him to give you a full season in 2020?

Kaden Smith was a nice pickup, but he's a TE2 at best.
RE: Hooper is overrated.  
Ned In Atlanta : 1/12/2020 11:40 pm : link
In comment 14775998 KWALL2 said:
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Hes ok but that guys seems to pile on the stats late in blowout games.

Were good with Engram and Smith. One of the few positions we dont have to worry about in 2020 is TE.


Im not at all in favor of using free agent money on a tight end, but as someone who lives in the Atlanta market and as a result follows the falcons., your assessment of hooper is not at all accurate
Check the splits Ned  
KWALL2 : 1/13/2020 12:02 am : link
54 catches and all TDs this year when they were behind.
8 when the were tied.
14 with the lead.

The big games he had this year were misleading. Stats the fantasy guys loved because it won fantasy football games but didnt help that team. Several games this year where the guy did nothing for 3 qtr and padded stats late.

Hes athletic and he can catch. Hes a good player but I wouldnt want to give him a big deal.

Thank you Kevin and Ned in ATL.  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/13/2020 12:42 am : link
Illuminating stuff on Hooper. He has an excellent PFF rating, FWIW.
RE: How about a big ugly ?  
CromartiesKid21 : 1/13/2020 6:12 am : link
In comment 14775945 Manny in CA said:
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Like the Steelers' Vance McDonald, somebody that can move people and has good enough hands to get a first down when you need one.


McDonald might be more injury prone than Engram
I really like Kaden Smith's game...  
Dnew15 : 1/13/2020 9:36 am : link
he seems like a legit 2 way TE.

If he continues to develop - I think this is one of the areas that is a relative strength for the team.
Exactly..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/13/2020 9:38 am : link
people shouldn't sleep on Smith. He had a terrific second half of the season and made an impact in several games. He's excelling as a 2-way player.
I liked Smith also  
Bill in UT : 1/13/2020 9:57 am : link
I don't think getting a TE is an urgent priority, I'd rather see our resources go elsewhere
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