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YANKEE28 : 1/12/2020 11:32 pm
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Kitna  
YANKEE28 : 1/12/2020 11:35 pm : link
was in Dallas less than a year as a coach, so no big surprise.

More surprising is Richards. I can't recall a Cowboys game on TV where they didn't pan up to the owners booth to show us Jerry and down to the sidelines to tell us what a hot coaching name Richards was.
I love that the Cowboys signed Mike Nolan as defensive coordinator  
Milton : 1/12/2020 11:50 pm : link
He sucks!
He sucks!  
Torrag : 1/13/2020 12:30 am : link
Hmmm I believe when Nolan was Giants DC we were ranked #1, #8, #10 and #16 overall. I did think he was too 'cover centric' and not as creative with his pressure package. Defense was well prepped and rarely looked 'lost' as we have so often in the last five years.
I have a good feeling about the Cowboys hiring  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/13/2020 12:40 am : link
McCarthy and letting him retool their entire coaching staff.


Because, and it's no more than a hunch or feeling, I think Mike M's best days are well behind him and JJ and his staff,whomever they all turn out to be, will soon have Dallas's number on a plate.

Just a hunch.
And they called the Redskins ..  
morrison40 : 1/13/2020 12:58 am : link
The “Over the hill” gang LOL
Would love to bring in Richard here in the same role he had in Dallas  
Leg of Theismann : 1/13/2020 2:25 am : link
DB coach and "passing game coordinator". Would love to see what he could do with Baker, Love, Beal, Ballentine, Peppers. Apparently Baker has gotten a reputation for being resistant to learning and/or changing his technique so I'd love to see if a guy like Richard who is known for being a great teacher, communicator, and motivator could get through to him.
RE: He sucks!  
Milton : 1/13/2020 3:16 am : link
In comment 14776043 Torrag said:
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Hmmm I believe when Nolan was Giants DC we were ranked #1, #8, #10 and #16 overall. I did think he was too 'cover centric' and not as creative with his pressure package. Defense was well prepped and rarely looked 'lost' as we have so often in the last five years.
He was LB coach in Denver who Reeves made the defensive coordinator because USC (or was it UCLA?) offered him the DC job and Reeves didn't want to lose him. But he was in over his head and after one year Reeves had to get more involved in the defense in order to help him out. After that Nolan became reliant on DL coach Earl Leggett for help and clashed with the more aggressive DB coach Zaven Yaralian over defensive philosophy.

When Reeves got fired Nolan left for the DC job with the Redskins and took Leggett with him. On a radio show Nolan ridiculed the Giants talent on defense and said there was only one guy who would be starting on any other team (and if I remember correctly, he was talking about Sehorn, not Strahan or Armstead (or Keith Hamilton or Ray Agnew or Chad Bratzke or Robert Harris). He also said that in this day and age of free agency and players moving from team to team, you need to keep it simple.

Meanwhile, back at Giants training camp, the defensive players marveled at how Fox's playbook was three times the size of Nolan's. Nolan was what Judge would describe as a "presenter" and not a teacher nor a strategist.

And speaking of Zaven Yaralian (who left for the DC job in New Orleans after Reeves was fired), somewhere buried in a box in my basement is an old PFW yearbook in which defensive coordinators around the league were asked how best to defend against Barry Sanders. Nolan's advice was to surround and corral him rather than attack him because according to Nolan, Sanders was just gonna make the first guy miss anyway. Yaralian's advice was the opposite, he said "you gotta shoot your shot" (the quote stuck in my head so I remember it exactly). He said even if the first guy misses, you've forced Sanders to commit in one direction or another and that makes it easier for other tacklers to zero in.

So no I don't like Nolan. I don't agree with him philosophically. And I don't think he is capable of an original thought. And I didn't like that he badmouthed the Giants defensive talent immediately upon joining the Redskins! The 1997 Giants defense was one helluva defense. Fox proved what a kindergarten coach Nolan truly was. We should all be happy such an unoriginal thinker will be designing game plans for the Cowboys defense.
RE: Would love to bring in Richard here in the same role he had in Dallas  
Milton : 1/13/2020 3:23 am : link
In comment 14776065 Leg of Theismann said:
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DB coach and "passing game coordinator". Would love to see what he could do with Baker, Love, Beal, Ballentine, Peppers. Apparently Baker has gotten a reputation for being resistant to learning and/or changing his technique so I'd love to see if a guy like Richard who is known for being a great teacher, communicator, and motivator could get through to him.
I'd like to see them bring in DB Coach DeWayne Walker from the Browns. He did a great job with the Giants DBs back in 2002 (Will Allen and Will Peterson) and he had a lot to do with the Giants deployment of the Big Nickel in order to get the best 11 guys on the field.
Seems like they’re staff is getting worse  
Rflairr : 1/13/2020 8:59 am : link
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Their  
Rflairr : 1/13/2020 8:59 am : link
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Bakers problem is lack of top end speed  
Vanzetti : 1/13/2020 9:01 am : link
Because he lacks catch up speed, he always has to be super worried about guys getting behind him. One solution is have him
Play press coverage but he was repeatedly burned when he did this year

In contrast, Beal, who ran a 4.40, has catch up
Speed. You can see the difference in the way they play. Of course Beals problem is staying on the field
RE: Bakers problem is lack of top end speed  
5BowlsSoon : 1/13/2020 9:06 am : link
In comment 14776183 Vanzetti said:
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Because he lacks catch up speed, he always has to be super worried about guys getting behind him. One solution is have him
Play press coverage but he was repeatedly burned when he did this year

In contrast, Beal, who ran a 4.40, has catch up
Speed. You can see the difference in the way they play. Of course Beals problem is staying on the field


I’m confused...we know Baker doesn’t have great speed, but he never has had great speed yet this didn’t hurt him in college. I’m sure he had to cover some very fast WRs in the SEC and did it successfully. So why can’t he continue to do that in the pros?
RE: Bakers problem is lack of top end speed  
Rflairr : 1/13/2020 9:16 am : link
In comment 14776183 Vanzetti said:
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Because he lacks catch up speed, he always has to be super worried about guys getting behind him. One solution is have him
Play press coverage but he was repeatedly burned when he did this year

In contrast, Beal, who ran a 4.40, has catch up
Speed. You can see the difference in the way they play. Of course Beals problem is staying on the field


No this was scheme. They were playing him far off guys. And not allowing him to use his strength which is a physical press corner. Dumb coaching
RE: RE: He sucks!  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/13/2020 9:24 am : link
In comment 14776069 Milton said:
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In comment 14776043 Torrag said:


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Hmmm I believe when Nolan was Giants DC we were ranked #1, #8, #10 and #16 overall. I did think he was too 'cover centric' and not as creative with his pressure package. Defense was well prepped and rarely looked 'lost' as we have so often in the last five years.

He was LB coach in Denver who Reeves made the defensive coordinator because USC (or was it UCLA?) offered him the DC job and Reeves didn't want to lose him. But he was in over his head and after one year Reeves had to get more involved in the defense in order to help him out. After that Nolan became reliant on DL coach Earl Leggett for help and clashed with the more aggressive DB coach Zaven Yaralian over defensive philosophy.

When Reeves got fired Nolan left for the DC job with the Redskins and took Leggett with him. On a radio show Nolan ridiculed the Giants talent on defense and said there was only one guy who would be starting on any other team (and if I remember correctly, he was talking about Sehorn, not Strahan or Armstead (or Keith Hamilton or Ray Agnew or Chad Bratzke or Robert Harris). He also said that in this day and age of free agency and players moving from team to team, you need to keep it simple.

Meanwhile, back at Giants training camp, the defensive players marveled at how Fox's playbook was three times the size of Nolan's. Nolan was what Judge would describe as a "presenter" and not a teacher nor a strategist.

And speaking of Zaven Yaralian (who left for the DC job in New Orleans after Reeves was fired), somewhere buried in a box in my basement is an old PFW yearbook in which defensive coordinators around the league were asked how best to defend against Barry Sanders. Nolan's advice was to surround and corral him rather than attack him because according to Nolan, Sanders was just gonna make the first guy miss anyway. Yaralian's advice was the opposite, he said "you gotta shoot your shot" (the quote stuck in my head so I remember it exactly). He said even if the first guy misses, you've forced Sanders to commit in one direction or another and that makes it easier for other tacklers to zero in.

So no I don't like Nolan. I don't agree with him philosophically. And I don't think he is capable of an original thought. And I didn't like that he badmouthed the Giants defensive talent immediately upon joining the Redskins! The 1997 Giants defense was one helluva defense. Fox proved what a kindergarten coach Nolan truly was. We should all be happy such an unoriginal thinker will be designing game plans for the Cowboys defense.


That's an awesome post
Maybe  
pjcas18 : 1/13/2020 9:28 am : link
Kitna can be an option for Alex Tanney's role.

And not clog up a roster spot.
RE: RE: He sucks!  
TyreeHelmet : 1/13/2020 10:00 am : link
In comment 14776069 Milton said:
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In comment 14776043 Torrag said:


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Hmmm I believe when Nolan was Giants DC we were ranked #1, #8, #10 and #16 overall. I did think he was too 'cover centric' and not as creative with his pressure package. Defense was well prepped and rarely looked 'lost' as we have so often in the last five years.

He was LB coach in Denver who Reeves made the defensive coordinator because USC (or was it UCLA?) offered him the DC job and Reeves didn't want to lose him. But he was in over his head and after one year Reeves had to get more involved in the defense in order to help him out. After that Nolan became reliant on DL coach Earl Leggett for help and clashed with the more aggressive DB coach Zaven Yaralian over defensive philosophy.

When Reeves got fired Nolan left for the DC job with the Redskins and took Leggett with him. On a radio show Nolan ridiculed the Giants talent on defense and said there was only one guy who would be starting on any other team (and if I remember correctly, he was talking about Sehorn, not Strahan or Armstead (or Keith Hamilton or Ray Agnew or Chad Bratzke or Robert Harris). He also said that in this day and age of free agency and players moving from team to team, you need to keep it simple.

Meanwhile, back at Giants training camp, the defensive players marveled at how Fox's playbook was three times the size of Nolan's. Nolan was what Judge would describe as a "presenter" and not a teacher nor a strategist.

And speaking of Zaven Yaralian (who left for the DC job in New Orleans after Reeves was fired), somewhere buried in a box in my basement is an old PFW yearbook in which defensive coordinators around the league were asked how best to defend against Barry Sanders. Nolan's advice was to surround and corral him rather than attack him because according to Nolan, Sanders was just gonna make the first guy miss anyway. Yaralian's advice was the opposite, he said "you gotta shoot your shot" (the quote stuck in my head so I remember it exactly). He said even if the first guy misses, you've forced Sanders to commit in one direction or another and that makes it easier for other tacklers to zero in.

So no I don't like Nolan. I don't agree with him philosophically. And I don't think he is capable of an original thought. And I didn't like that he badmouthed the Giants defensive talent immediately upon joining the Redskins! The 1997 Giants defense was one helluva defense. Fox proved what a kindergarten coach Nolan truly was. We should all be happy such an unoriginal thinker will be designing game plans for the Cowboys defense.


Great info thanks for sharing.
RE: RE: He sucks!  
18E : 1/13/2020 10:53 am : link
In comment 14776069 Milton said:
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In comment 14776043 Torrag said:


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Hmmm I believe when Nolan was Giants DC we were ranked #1, #8, #10 and #16 overall. I did think he was too 'cover centric' and not as creative with his pressure package. Defense was well prepped and rarely looked 'lost' as we have so often in the last five years.

He was LB coach in Denver who Reeves made the defensive coordinator because USC (or was it UCLA?) offered him the DC job and Reeves didn't want to lose him. But he was in over his head and after one year Reeves had to get more involved in the defense in order to help him out. After that Nolan became reliant on DL coach Earl Leggett for help and clashed with the more aggressive DB coach Zaven Yaralian over defensive philosophy.

When Reeves got fired Nolan left for the DC job with the Redskins and took Leggett with him. On a radio show Nolan ridiculed the Giants talent on defense and said there was only one guy who would be starting on any other team (and if I remember correctly, he was talking about Sehorn, not Strahan or Armstead (or Keith Hamilton or Ray Agnew or Chad Bratzke or Robert Harris). He also said that in this day and age of free agency and players moving from team to team, you need to keep it simple.

Meanwhile, back at Giants training camp, the defensive players marveled at how Fox's playbook was three times the size of Nolan's. Nolan was what Judge would describe as a "presenter" and not a teacher nor a strategist.

And speaking of Zaven Yaralian (who left for the DC job in New Orleans after Reeves was fired), somewhere buried in a box in my basement is an old PFW yearbook in which defensive coordinators around the league were asked how best to defend against Barry Sanders. Nolan's advice was to surround and corral him rather than attack him because according to Nolan, Sanders was just gonna make the first guy miss anyway. Yaralian's advice was the opposite, he said "you gotta shoot your shot" (the quote stuck in my head so I remember it exactly). He said even if the first guy misses, you've forced Sanders to commit in one direction or another and that makes it easier for other tacklers to zero in.

So no I don't like Nolan. I don't agree with him philosophically. And I don't think he is capable of an original thought. And I didn't like that he badmouthed the Giants defensive talent immediately upon joining the Redskins! The 1997 Giants defense was one helluva defense. Fox proved what a kindergarten coach Nolan truly was. We should all be happy such an unoriginal thinker will be designing game plans for the Cowboys defense.


Well done Milton.
RE: RE: He sucks!  
clatterbuck : 1/13/2020 11:44 am : link
In comment 14776069 Milton said:
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In comment 14776043 Torrag said:


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Hmmm I believe when Nolan was Giants DC we were ranked #1, #8, #10 and #16 overall. I did think he was too 'cover centric' and not as creative with his pressure package. Defense was well prepped and rarely looked 'lost' as we have so often in the last five years.

He was LB coach in Denver who Reeves made the defensive coordinator because USC (or was it UCLA?) offered him the DC job and Reeves didn't want to lose him. But he was in over his head and after one year Reeves had to get more involved in the defense in order to help him out. After that Nolan became reliant on DL coach Earl Leggett for help and clashed with the more aggressive DB coach Zaven Yaralian over defensive philosophy.

When Reeves got fired Nolan left for the DC job with the Redskins and took Leggett with him. On a radio show Nolan ridiculed the Giants talent on defense and said there was only one guy who would be starting on any other team (and if I remember correctly, he was talking about Sehorn, not Strahan or Armstead (or Keith Hamilton or Ray Agnew or Chad Bratzke or Robert Harris). He also said that in this day and age of free agency and players moving from team to team, you need to keep it simple.

Meanwhile, back at Giants training camp, the defensive players marveled at how Fox's playbook was three times the size of Nolan's. Nolan was what Judge would describe as a "presenter" and not a teacher nor a strategist.

And speaking of Zaven Yaralian (who left for the DC job in New Orleans after Reeves was fired), somewhere buried in a box in my basement is an old PFW yearbook in which defensive coordinators around the league were asked how best to defend against Barry Sanders. Nolan's advice was to surround and corral him rather than attack him because according to Nolan, Sanders was just gonna make the first guy miss anyway. Yaralian's advice was the opposite, he said "you gotta shoot your shot" (the quote stuck in my head so I remember it exactly). He said even if the first guy misses, you've forced Sanders to commit in one direction or another and that makes it easier for other tacklers to zero in.

So no I don't like Nolan. I don't agree with him philosophically. And I don't think he is capable of an original thought. And I didn't like that he badmouthed the Giants defensive talent immediately upon joining the Redskins! The 1997 Giants defense was one helluva defense. Fox proved what a kindergarten coach Nolan truly was. We should all be happy such an unoriginal thinker will be designing game plans for the Cowboys defense.


Great post. Thanks.
Kris Richard does seem like a really good complement...  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/13/2020 12:52 pm : link
...to Judge and Graham. Worth noting, though: he's a West Coast / Pete Carroll product: Los Angeles/USC, then many years in Seattle with a brief stop in San Francisco. I think the two years in Dallas represent the farthest east he has ever worked, aside from a cup of coffee in Miami fifteen years ago, after being traded there. If he has options, he might choose to head west rather than east.
Very enlightening about Nolan. I had thought he was solid. Credit to  
Ivan15 : 1/13/2020 1:38 pm : link
Torrag or Milton or both for pointing out the flaws.

Didn’t Nolan have some strong defenses after he left the Giants? I know he was a disaster as HC for the 49ers.
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