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Coach Spags defense - another great job

allstarjim : 1/13/2020 10:34 am
I'm pretty much pulling for the Chiefs to win it all so Spags can cement his legacy and help the Walrus finally get the Monkey off his back.

He has taken a lot of flak for some bad defenses that were really devoid of talent in St Louis, in an unwinnable scenario with the worst QB situation in the NFL when he was there, and a team that gave up without their suspended leader (Sean Payton) in the wake of Bountygate.

But Spags showed again when he has some horses, he knows how to play-call and get a defense ready for a big challenge.

His defense limited Watson and the run game yesterday and really had Watson harassed and hurried all game, hitting Watson 8 times and sacking him 5 times.

Anyway, kudos to Spags for another job well done, I only wish the Giants were smart enough to know what they had after McAdoo was shown the door.

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RE: RE: take this game with the same performance, but substitute  
allstarjim : 1/13/2020 11:51 am : link
In comment 14776524 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14776511 Victor in CT said:


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Perry Fewell for DC and see if anyone posts aything complimentary.



Ironically, Jim decided out of all the games played this weekend - to highlight the performance of the KC D as being great.

There was probably only one other team who played worse D - their opponent!


Oh look, FMiC, I thought Tennessee's defense against Baltimore was spectacular. They did a helluva job. But their DC didn't use to be our DC who happened to be the DC on the winning side of XLII. I'm a Spags' fan, sue me, I guess? I'm sure Dean Pees is a great coordinator. Good luck, because he's got a tall order next week. Robert Saleh...great job. I think he's a talented guy. Also didn't coach in XLII.
I think it's clear  
JonC : 1/13/2020 11:51 am : link
this a hooray Spags sentiment thread, which is nice of you.
BTW  
allstarjim : 1/13/2020 12:00 pm : link
Someone posting about Fewell. That defense was good, I'm partial to XLII because of that game dynamic with the record setting offense and points scored, the undefeated record. The Pats offense in XLVI wasn't the same in XLII, plus we had already toppled that giant once before.

But yeah, I like Fewell, it's just that XLII everyone had written the Giants off and it was more of a David vs Goliath scenario. And I liked Spags' defense more, which has always been aggressive and getting after the QB, a style I prefer.
RE: I think it's clear  
allstarjim : 1/13/2020 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14776559 JonC said:
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this a hooray Spags sentiment thread, which is nice of you.


Thank you, Jon. Yes, to some degree it is. But I do think it's worth recognizing he's 1 game from being back in the Super Bowl.

And I'll say it here first. I have a ton of respect for what Vrabel has done and for the man-beast that Derrick Henry is, he is incredibly fun to watch.

But K.C. is going to murder that Tennessee team. I don't expect that game to be close. I'd bet K.C. on a 16.5 spread and feel very confident. In fact, I wouldn't take Tennessee if they were getting 20.5. And no, I don't want to bet any of you...I'll place my bets the traditional way if I want to, thank you.

So yes, I'm going to enjoy watching Spags get another ring, if they are able to finish this thing by toppling the Packers or Niners.
RE: yeah great job. nearly 500 yards against, 34:35 T.O.P. against  
Stan in LA : 1/13/2020 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14776421 Victor in CT said:
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31 points against. Another great Spags scheme. Right.

/Thread.
RE: RE: I think it's clear  
Greg from LI : 1/13/2020 12:06 pm : link
In comment 14776584 allstarjim said:
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But I do think it's worth recognizing he's 1 game from being back in the Super Bowl.


They're not getting there because of his defense, that's for damned sure.
RE: RE: yeah great job. nearly 500 yards against, 34:35 T.O.P. against  
allstarjim : 1/13/2020 12:08 pm : link
In comment 14776586 Stan in LA said:
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In comment 14776421 Victor in CT said:


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31 points against. Another great Spags scheme. Right.


/Thread.


Except his defense didn't give up 31 points.
KC defense  
JonC : 1/13/2020 12:13 pm : link
is going to get rolled by the Titans. Mahomes is going to have to win it via the air.
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Kyle in NY : 1/13/2020 12:13 pm : link
Chiefs were 7th in points allowed and 17th in yardage allowed this season after ranking 24th and 31st in those categories the year before. So there has been an improvement on that side of the ball.

When you've got that offense, you really just need your defense to be barely average and they've gotten that and more. Mahomes wins them games, but the defense is no longer costing them wins like they did last season. Spags gets some credit in my book for his work as a whole this season. Just not sure yesterday would be the main point to support that. Let's see what he draws up for Derrick Henry
Spags was the best DC we have had since  
TMS : 1/13/2020 12:13 pm : link
the ELI era began. by a mile. Our GM and personnel selection team were the worst during the same time frame. IMO.
Ring of honor?  
redwhiteandbigblue : 1/13/2020 12:16 pm : link
Hahaha. Thanks for making me laugh. I really needed that today.
Titans defense is pretty suspect  
Kyle in NY : 1/13/2020 12:16 pm : link
especially versus the pass. They just haven't been really tested in that regard so far these playoffs. Ravens moved the ball but had drives bogged down in Titans territory.

Big step up in class for them taking on Mahomes this week. I don't think they get many stops. Chiefs D just has to find a few here and there. Unfortunately for them they're much better against the run than the pass. I do think we could see a lot of points in that game
*Meant to say  
Kyle in NY : 1/13/2020 12:17 pm : link
Chiefs D better against the pass than the run.

Henry should have another big game. Chiefs focus may just be finding a way to force field goal attempts in the red zone.
Spags is a great dude  
jlukes : 1/13/2020 12:18 pm : link
But the only time he was at great coordinator was when he had Strahan, Tuck, Osi and kiwanuka to work with
RE: KC defense  
allstarjim : 1/13/2020 12:20 pm : link
In comment 14776595 JonC said:
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is going to get rolled by the Titans. Mahomes is going to have to win it via the air.


Let's talk again next Monday, Jonnyboy! ;)
RE: No..  
DeepBlueJint : 1/13/2020 1:02 pm : link
In comment 14776494 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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this isn't all you're saying:



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All I'm saying...Spags deserves some credit



You are saying the D played GREAT.

Spags deserves credit. KC won. Save the superlatives for when they actually fucking count.


Hey Fatman, where in the OP did he say "Great". Cut us some slack.

I could care less one way or another. I do thank Spags for 2007. Leave it at that and wish him well instead of pissing on the OPs pants. I suggest you check your excited bladder and you look at your own pants.
What??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/13/2020 1:03 pm : link
are you fucking blind? It is right in the thread title.
Can I make..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/13/2020 1:21 pm : link
this 75 font??

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Coach Spags defense - another great job
Chiefs defense can be had  
Torrag : 1/13/2020 1:29 pm : link
Now they went 'all-in' with pressure down 24 to nothing because they had to and it was effective but their offense bailed them out.

For me the biggest factor in the comeback was the Texans defense was a MASH unit. They came in with a gimped JJ Watt, numerous injuries to their back end and suffered more as the game ran it's course. They didn't have the talent to stay with the Chiefs.

I'd call this weeks AFC championship game a tossup. Chiefs D-line can't handle the Titans up front which means it's anyone's ballgame. Vrabel also won't make stupid decisions that hurt his chances like O'brien did.
Coach Spags is treated way too “reverently” by many on this board for  
plato : 1/13/2020 9:42 pm : link
reasons which I believe may not be football related. Perry Fewell also was evaluated as a lesser coach also I believe on non football reasons.Spaga seems to be a nice guy who is easily at times beyond his competence level which has been gone into before.

just let him be a dc, it has taken him a long enough time to be successful there, and leave off the “great” and “legacy” talk and you’ll get a lot less blowback here.
RE: Coach Spags is treated way too “reverently” by many on this board for  
allstarjim : 1/13/2020 10:44 pm : link
In comment 14777888 plato said:
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reasons which I believe may not be football related. Perry Fewell also was evaluated as a lesser coach also I believe on non football reasons.Spaga seems to be a nice guy who is easily at times beyond his competence level which has been gone into before.

just let him be a dc, it has taken him a long enough time to be successful there, and leave off the “great” and “legacy” talk and you’ll get a lot less blowback here.


Well that's a dumb fucking post.
RE: I don't know how the Chiefs stop Tennessee  
section125 : 1/13/2020 10:52 pm : link
In comment 14776389 Go Terps said:
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This could be the week AJ Brown and Jonnu Smith get more involved.


The Chiefs have a complete QB. Huge difference. Tennessee has a VG defense, but they can't sit in the middle of the field and think that Mahomes won't beat them outside.
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