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Jeff Passan @JeffPassan · 1m BREAKING: Houston Astros GM Jeff Luhnow and manager AJ Hinch have been suspended for one year after an MLB investigation found the team used technology to cheat during its World Series-winning 2017 season, sources familiar with the punishment tell ESPN. |
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Additionally, MLB will fine the Astros $5 million and take away their first- and second-round picks in the 2020 and 2021 drafts, sources tell ESPN.
What did you want? To put them in front of a firing squad?
But unfortunately it is just really a diversion by MLB.
Makes everyone think the Astros were the only ones doing something like this.
The investigation was a sham and MLB is just trying to avoid further scrutinty by outing other teams.
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No players were disciplined by Major League Baseball in the Astros' investigation. While Mets manager Carlos Beltran was part of it, he was a player at the time and thus was not suspended.
Discipline for Red Sox manager Alex Cora is coming. It is going to be harsh, per sources.
But unfortunately it is just really a diversion by MLB.
Makes everyone think the Astros were the only ones doing something like this.
The investigation was a sham and MLB is just trying to avoid further scrutinty by outing other teams.
What other teams have been implicated, outside of the Sox and Cora (who's punishment is coming)?
Steals signs when guys are on base and can see the C? Sure
Steals signs using cameras and tech?
Were there other offenders? Probably, but likely no where close to this extent.
I basically thought no "multiple life time bans" like many people on here were suggesting.
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Just one year. Manfred blew it
What did you want? To put them in front of a firing squad?
I mean the tradeoff was 3 great years supported by cheating for 1 lost year, 5 mil, and 4 picks. Hinch and Luchnow will be back too
Yeah that's a pretty significant punishment and more than what I thought was going to happen.
Here's hoping Cora gets it good too.
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Don't agree with the draft picks. Why hurt the fans?
But unfortunately it is just really a diversion by MLB.
Makes everyone think the Astros were the only ones doing something like this.
The investigation was a sham and MLB is just trying to avoid further scrutinty by outing other teams.
Reports have indicated that the Astros and Red Sox were the only teams that continued these tactics after the MLB specifically reached out to clubs telling them to stop...
Don't agree with the draft picks. Why hurt the fans?
ANY punishment hurts the fans. you dont think losing hinch for a year hurts the teams chances ?
The fans are unfortunately collateral damage when their favorite team cheats
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in MLB steals signs - but I don't think that any other teams went to the extent that the Astros and Red Sox went to in order to steal them.
Steals signs when guys are on base and can see the C? Sure
Steals signs using cameras and tech?
I"m saying the use of cameras and tech is way beyond the line.
I think lots of teams steal signs - like the method you mentioned. Another one is (even though it's an unwritten rule) picking up signs delivered by the dugout or by the 3rd base coach during the course of a game.
I always thought this was an empty punishment. I mean everyone knows that Louisville won the national title in 2013. You can't just "undo" it.
If it's with pay it's not harsh enough imo.
ANY punishment hurts the fans. you dont think losing hinch for a year hurts the teams chances ?
The fans are unfortunately collateral damage when their favorite team cheats
Yes, I do think losing Hinch is a big loss. But back to back years taking away first and second round picks is a big hit to the the farm system. Maybe one year - sure. But two years is heavy. Kick Hinch out for two years instead...
Whatever, glad MLB decided to send a signal - the rules are not meant to be violated.
Don't agree with the draft picks. Why hurt the fans?
Technically,didn’t the fans of the losing teams fans get hurt?
If they don’t cheat maybe they lose.
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ANY punishment hurts the fans. you dont think losing hinch for a year hurts the teams chances ?
The fans are unfortunately collateral damage when their favorite team cheats
Yes, I do think losing Hinch is a big loss. But back to back years taking away first and second round picks is a big hit to the the farm system. Maybe one year - sure. But two years is heavy. Kick Hinch out for two years instead...
hurts the farm system...hurts the franchise. AS IT SHOULD. they cheated. the fans are the lowest and last level of "hurt" in this scenario. the franchise DESERVES a strict punishment. maybe they lose if they dont cheat....are the fans happy then? they have a championship that wont be taken away, the fans are fine. it was necessary to punish the franchise though
same thoughts. not enough punishment to disincentivize. like when a company is fined $5 billion on a move that made them $25 billion.
Don't agree with the draft picks. Why hurt the fans?
the astros are the one who hurt the fans with their behavior. they hurt their own fans and fans of every other team in the rest of the league. this is how punishment works.