Last week we saw a quote from Justin Tuck, indicating that he would knows Ngakoue and would be thrilled to see him sign this offseason with the Giants and wear his #91.
Today, Ngakoue posts a picture of Lawrence Taylor on his Twitter page.
Who knows whats up, but imagine that the Jags are in CAP hell and the Giants have the money to sign the best edge rusher in this years Free Agency.
Would eliminate the need for an Edge guy if they sign back Golden.
Seems overt in a good way
Would eliminate the need for an Edge guy if they sign back Golden.
I hope the Giants aren't thinking the way you are. Signing/drafting one pass rusher is not enough. Need multiple bodies to solve the underlying issue here.
Too often opposing QBs had all day to throw, particularly in the 4th quarter once fatigue had set in for the guys on the frontline.
Would eliminate the need for an Edge guy if they sign back Golden.
I'd let Golden walk. Someone will overpay and he might balance out the comp pick calculation (a bit) for next year. Sign Yannick and draft an edge rusher to develop.
So let it be written, so let it be done.
I think he can have a greater impact than Zadarius Smith has on the Packers
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LOVE this move. Exactly the kind of player we need.
I think he can have a greater impact than Zadarius Smith has on the Packers
Hell, even if it's the same impact I'd sign up for that in a heartbeat.
Or maybe find somebody to coach the hell out of Carter. We've already got him. It would be a shame to waste him.
Sounds a lot like Lorenzo
Ngakoue was a 3rd Round pick, too.
BOOYAH! Got you there, pally!
Seriously, though...maybe a coaching change (like a change of scenery) could work wonders with Carter. You never know. I just don't want to write him off completely after two years.
Agreed. Unless Golden is going to pay us for each offsides he does next year:)
The more, the merrier.
That would seem to be supported by Graham's comments. One of the thoughts I had while reading/watching interviews with him was that Golden may not be in their plans moving forward.
i think he will command the MOST money of all the edge players.
for that reason, give me judon and allow me to spend money elsewhere.
Judon
Conklin
littleton
those three plus a resign of golden and williams to me is the dream FA period
Agreed
I would like to see what the coaches can do with Carter. In a limited role I think he can do well. I also dont want him as a starter. same with Xman.
We need to sign a guy like Ngakoue and then a second tier FA or maybe a grizzled vet on a mid to lower contract. We have to invest at the positions of greatest need OT, ER, C and yes a CB. Get Judge some pieces to work with.
He has rejected offers in the past with Jacksonville.
He has rejected offers in the past with Jacksonville.
He will go to the highest bidder, but the second part, you are wrong. He held out this past summer looking for a new deal. He ended up reporting and Tom/Caldwell never initiated any negotiations on the Jaguars part.
Jaguars offered short term deal - ( New Window )
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In comment 14777012 Jon in NYC said:
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LOVE this move. Exactly the kind of player we need.
I think he can have a greater impact than Zadarius Smith has on the Packers
Hell, even if it's the same impact I'd sign up for that in a heartbeat.
Trade for the Dolphins Van Ginkel
i think he will command the MOST money of all the edge players.
for that reason, give me judon and allow me to spend money elsewhere.
Judon
Conklin
littleton
those three plus a resign of golden and williams to me is the dream FA period
You are missing the bigger picture with Yannick besides sacks. His FF are tremendous - 14 in 4 years. Compare to Clowney who has managed 8 in 6 years. Barrett has come close to 13 in 6 years. Judon has managed 7 in 4 years. It isn't just luck, but a skill that an edge rusher has their in arsenal. Increasing the offensive opportunities (assuming your QB is not Bortles) often lead to more points and wins.
How about we sign both and go OL in rds 1 thru 3 (hopefully trade down) or OL WR OL but I would be ok with OL 3 times in a row if the value is there.
How about we sign both and go OL in rds 1 thru 3 (hopefully trade down) or OL WR OL but I would be ok with OL 3 times in a row if the value is there.
They don't have the room to tag him. They will have to release players to fit a 17M tag under the cap. Yannick already said he won't sign it so they will have to allocate 17M in cap space while the tag is extended.
I would like to see what the coaches can do with Carter. In a limited role I think he can do well. I also dont want him as a starter. same with Xman.
We need to sign a guy like Ngakoue and then a second tier FA or maybe a grizzled vet on a mid to lower contract. We have to invest at the positions of greatest need OT, ER, C and yes a CB. Get Judge some pieces to work with.
The odds are that we're going to re-sign Williams, if for no other reason than DG probably doesn't want to look like an even bigger idiot after trading for him, for letting him walk after eight games. The question is for how much? He's not worth what a premier ER like Ngakoue is, but I don't trust DG not to overpay him. Can we afford to do that and also sign a guy like Ngakoue (or Dante Fowler, or Bud Dupree)? I hope we can, but I'm no capologist. Far from it, in fact.
Add to that the pressing need (in my view) to sign a starting-caliber ILB, plus an OT, OC and a DB, and it seems to me the money's going to dry up fairly quickly. But again, I'm no capologist.
I'd rather not sign an aging veteran DE/OLB/ER, certainly not one on the shady side of 30, looking for one last payday. Might as well keep Golden. However, I'll throw a couple of names out there, guys who are still young, fit JonC's profile, but who don't have the production of a Ngakoue or a Shaq Barrett, and should , in theory, come a lot cheaper: Carl Nassib and Aaron Lynch.