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Ole Miss Freddie Roach new Giants DL Coach

Big Rick in FL : 1/13/2020 3:19 pm
Don't know anything about him. Think he played at Bama though.
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'we're hiring Belichick and Saban guys...'  
Torrag : 1/13/2020 3:31 pm : link
and guys Judge knows and has coached with.
Took me 3 tries to read that right  
Eli Wilson : 1/13/2020 3:33 pm : link
I kept thinking it was Ole' - Miss Freddie Roach, as in an old lady or something. I thought it was a joke.
Cool video  
Heisenberg : 1/13/2020 3:36 pm : link
of him from Ole Miss.
Link - ( New Window )
If you watched that Belichick/Saban doc on HBO...  
Chris in LA : 1/13/2020 3:39 pm : link
both coaches groused about their assistants getting HC gobs and then poaching their staffs. They were really miffed by it. So no surprise that Judge is going to Miami and possibly other teams, rather than raiding Belichick's NE staff....
RE: Cool video  
Saquads26 : 1/13/2020 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14777191 Heisenberg said:
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of him from Ole Miss. Link - ( New Window )


“We’re gonna play violent!!” Goes along with what Judge said in his presser.
Jeez...he looks like LT.  
Klaatu : 1/13/2020 3:40 pm : link
Sounds like him, too.
RE: so  
Jints in Carolina : 1/13/2020 3:42 pm : link
In comment 14777166 Eric from BBI said:
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we're hiring Belichick and Saban guys.


And I am ok with that.
Have a feeling they already know who there OC is.  
Blue21 : 1/13/2020 3:46 pm : link
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RE: Cool video  
Spider56 : 1/13/2020 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14777191 Heisenberg said:
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of him from Ole Miss. Link - ( New Window )


I like this guy ... play violent ... did anyone miss a class ? No sir !
Fine with me hiring Saban & BB  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/13/2020 3:46 pm : link
guys.
Looks like they’re assembling the staff  
jeff57 : 1/13/2020 3:47 pm : link
He would have had at Mississippi State. Except this is not college.
RE: Looks like they’re assembling the staff  
Chris684 : 1/13/2020 3:48 pm : link
In comment 14777225 jeff57 said:
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He would have had at Mississippi State. Except this is not college.


Not sure if you're serious.

Pretty silly if you are.
RE: RE: Looks like they’re assembling the staff  
jeff57 : 1/13/2020 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14777230 Chris684 said:
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He would have had at Mississippi State. Except this is not college.



Not sure if you're serious.

Pretty silly if you are.


Why, are you confident with the staff so far?
Pretty good teacher  
Joey in VA : 1/13/2020 3:52 pm : link
He's not ok with just ok.
RE: If you watched that Belichick/Saban doc on HBO...  
jestersdead : 1/13/2020 3:53 pm : link
In comment 14777199 Chris in LA said:
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both coaches groused about their assistants getting HC gobs and then poaching their staffs. They were really miffed by it. So no surprise that Judge is going to Miami and possibly other teams, rather than raiding Belichick's NE staff....

I couldn't a clip of the exchange but did find this piece from an article.
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"We've always had sort of a mutual respect for how we take each other's people," Saban told Belichick. "It's one thing that I always try to emphasize to the guys. What I have a tough time with is we've had however many guys who've worked here who are at Georgia, Tennessee, whoever, wherever. When they get those jobs, and in most cases, you helped them, then they have a hard time understanding why they can't take your people. I want to help you get a job so you can try to take what I've tried to build here and destroy the continuity of what I have. The assistants don't understand why that's not a good thing."

"I'm happy for the people who've worked hard for me to get opportunities," Belichick said. "I want to see them build their own program. When they try to tear down our program. That's kind of where the line, I feel gets crossed."


Gotta wonder if these moves are ok with Bill or not, since they are once removed from NE
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Just jeff being jeff.  
Brown Recluse : 1/13/2020 3:54 pm : link
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Jeff, I have no idea how you speak with such authority on  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/13/2020 3:54 pm : link
people you probably never even heard of prior to them being hired.
RE: so  
Dave : 1/13/2020 3:55 pm : link
In comment 14777166 Eric from BBI said:
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we're hiring Belichick and Saban guys.


Can't argue with that, they are two of the all time greats
RE: RE: RE: Looks like they’re assembling the staff  
Brown Recluse : 1/13/2020 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14777238 jeff57 said:
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He would have had at Mississippi State. Except this is not college.



Not sure if you're serious.

Pretty silly if you are.



Why, are you confident with the staff so far?


Your confidence level with the staff means dogshit...you know that right? You have no connections with anyone in the NFL. You don't know anything.

How confident were you with the James Bettcher hire? I remember the overall fan reaction being pretty positive. How did that turn out?

Maybe unbunch your panties and lets see how it plays out.
Is there anyone coaching tonight on the offensive side of the ball  
bigblue5611_2 : 1/13/2020 3:58 pm : link
that has ties to Saban or Belichick? Curious if the next OC hasn't been announced yet due to their responsibilities tonight.
Jestersdead  
bigblue5611_2 : 1/13/2020 3:59 pm : link
I would think Bill would be OK with it as they are no longer on his staff. My take on his and Saban's comments there is that they would be unhappy with a current/former assistant of theirs raiding their current staff's.
RE: Jeff, I have no idea how you speak with such authority on  
jeff57 : 1/13/2020 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14777249 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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people you probably never even heard of prior to them being hired.


You’re right, I’ll just get back in line and salute whatever comes down.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Looks like they’re assembling the staff  
Saquads26 : 1/13/2020 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14777254 Brown Recluse said:
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He would have had at Mississippi State. Except this is not college.



Not sure if you're serious.

Pretty silly if you are.



Why, are you confident with the staff so far?



Your confidence level with the staff means dogshit...you know that right? You have no connections with anyone in the NFL. You don't know anything.

How confident were you with the James Bettcher hire? I remember the overall fan reaction being pretty positive. How did that turn out?

Maybe unbunch your panties and lets see how it plays out.


This +1
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jeff57 : 1/13/2020 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14777254 Brown Recluse said:
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He would have had at Mississippi State. Except this is not college.



Not sure if you're serious.

Pretty silly if you are.



Why, are you confident with the staff so far?



Your confidence level with the staff means dogshit...you know that right? You have no connections with anyone in the NFL. You don't know anything.

How confident were you with the James Bettcher hire? I remember the overall fan reaction being pretty positive. How did that turn out?

Maybe unbunch your panties and lets see how it plays out.


Gee, and I thought we were allowed to give our opinions on here.
He probably knows  
Andy in Boston : 1/13/2020 4:04 pm : link
Tomlinson well.
RE: RE: Jeff, I have no idea how you speak with such authority on  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/13/2020 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14777261 jeff57 said:
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people you probably never even heard of prior to them being hired.



You’re right, I’ll just get back in line and salute whatever comes down.


That's not what I'm implying & you know it. I have no freaking clue about these guys & don't pretend otherwise.
RE: He probably knows  
Anakim : 1/13/2020 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14777271 Andy in Boston said:
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Tomlinson well.


So does Graham. Tomlinson is all of a sudden the prized pupil. Haha
RE: Should’ve hired him to play, not coach  
section125 : 1/13/2020 4:06 pm : link
In comment 14777174 Saos1n said:
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Holy shit, that's a big guy..

Seems to be the teacher type Judge is talking about.
If he's so good, why was he about to be fired by Lane Kiffin?!  
FranknWeezer : 1/13/2020 4:07 pm : link
Just kidding. I'm an Ole Miss fan, so I can get away with that.
RE: If he's so good, why was he about to be fired by Lane Kiffin?!  
Mike in NY : 1/13/2020 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14777281 FranknWeezer said:
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Just kidding. I'm an Ole Miss fan, so I can get away with that.


How were his DL at Ole Miss?
RE: RE: If he's so good, why was he about to be fired by Lane Kiffin?!  
FranknWeezer : 1/13/2020 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14777288 Mike in NY said:
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Just kidding. I'm an Ole Miss fan, so I can get away with that.



How were his DL at Ole Miss?


Breeland Speaks and Marquis Haynes were both drafted relatively early. He's coached Josiah Coatney, who is also highly-regarded. Roach is an up-and-comer. Surprised a bit that they'd turn the whole DL operation over to him, rather than bring him on as an assistant. But JJ knows what he's looking for, so we shall see.
RE: RE: RE: If he's so good, why was he about to be fired by Lane Kiffin?!  
Rflairr : 1/13/2020 4:20 pm : link
In comment 14777305 FranknWeezer said:
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Just kidding. I'm an Ole Miss fan, so I can get away with that.



How were his DL at Ole Miss?



Breeland Speaks and Marquis Haynes were both drafted relatively early. He's coached Josiah Coatney, who is also highly-regarded. Roach is an up-and-comer. Surprised a bit that they'd turn the whole DL operation over to him, rather than bring him on as an assistant. But JJ knows what he's looking for, so we shall see.


Might be asst DL Coach
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/13/2020 4:20 pm : link
Dalvin Tomlinson is going to be thrilled with Graham and Roach.
Not that this isn't true  
FranknWeezer : 1/13/2020 4:23 pm : link
but where other than here is it being reported?

No indication on his twitter bio (not that there would be) of a move.
Coach Freddie Roach on Twitter - ( New Window )
I like this guy, he doesn't say we're looking for this  
gtt350 : 1/13/2020 4:25 pm : link
or trying to do that he says " this is the way it's going to be"
Definitely a little LT in him
RE: Not that this isn't true  
Rflairr : 1/13/2020 4:28 pm : link
In comment 14777323 FranknWeezer said:
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but where other than here is it being reported?

No indication on his twitter bio (not that there would be) of a move. Coach Freddie Roach on Twitter - ( New Window )


Alex Marvez
Also like that the staff seems young and diverse.  
FatHeadTommy : 1/13/2020 4:32 pm : link
That should play well in the Giant's locker room. Plus we can put to bed that stupid notion that someone suggested when we hired Judge - that the Giants is a racist organization.
RE: Have a feeling they already know who there OC is.  
Saos1n : 1/13/2020 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14777214 Blue21 said:
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I would assume so. Having said that; it would, realistically, have to be a coach who is still coaching. Whether that be with one of the NFL teams or the Championship game tonight. I don’t know the coaching trees all too well, to know who that might be.

Only name that stands out is Wes Welker. But they were only together during the 2012 season, I believe.

And considering how raw he is in coaching, I couldn’t imagine it’s him.
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John In CO : 1/13/2020 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14777272 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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people you probably never even heard of prior to them being hired.



You’re right, I’ll just get back in line and salute whatever comes down.



That's not what I'm implying & you know it. I have no freaking clue about these guys & don't pretend otherwise.


I think some will go out of their way to put a positive spin on these hires, while others will go out of their way to spin every hire as a negative.

What you said, meanwhile, is the truth: no one knows at this point what moves are gonna work and what moves wont. Im sure there is a vetting process, and the new HC is obviously way more familiar with the talents these coaches bring than any of us are.

My only real concern is that I hope we can hire an OC with some prior HC experience, what with Judge being a first time HC. Seems that would be smart....but again, what do I know:)
Anybody  
XBRONX : 1/13/2020 5:36 pm : link
that can deal with Mike Tyson must be pretty tough.
RE: Jeff, I have no idea how you speak with such authority on  
5BowlsSoon : 1/13/2020 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14777249 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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people you probably never even heard of prior to them being hired.


Jeff has his agenda (strong opinions) and he will not ease up letting us know about it. I think I counted, then stopped, at 10 posts of him moaning and groaning over the Graham hire. I’m sure Jeff wanted some older guy with a bigger resume instead of another x-Patriot 40 year old.
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ryanmkeane : 1/13/2020 6:11 pm : link
This guy seems like the man. That’s all I got.
RE: Took me 3 tries to read that right  
Scooter185 : 1/13/2020 6:16 pm : link
In comment 14777187 Eli Wilson said:
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I kept thinking it was Ole' - Miss Freddie Roach, as in an old lady or something. I thought it was a joke.


Glad it wasn't just me
Roach may be good but it sounds like his best contribution is keeping  
Ivan15 : 1/13/2020 7:00 pm : link
student-athletes out of trouble. He probably should stay at the college level for a while longer.
Vocal, motivating style...  
GA5 : 1/13/2020 7:00 pm : link
Reminds me of Lamar Leachman.
RE: so  
Brick72 : 1/13/2020 9:25 pm : link
In comment 14777166 Eric from BBI said:
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we're hiring Belichick and Saban guys.

Hmm, is that such a bad thing? Until we see otherwise, maybe not.
RE: Jeez...he looks like LT.  
Brick72 : 1/13/2020 9:29 pm : link
In comment 14777203 Klaatu said:
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Sounds like him, too.

Huh? Looks like LT?
Will have the inside look  
Sy'56 : 1/13/2020 10:29 pm : link
At a DT that I really like - Josiah Coatney. One of the more underrated DTs in the class. Active - NFL frame - Man Strength. Most importantly - a prefect fit for a multi-look defense.
RE: RE: so  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/13/2020 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14777851 Brick72 said:
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In comment 14777166 Eric from BBI said:


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we're hiring Belichick and Saban guys.


Hmm, is that such a bad thing? Until we see otherwise, maybe not.


How are you inferring that this was a negative post by me?
Well if he's any relation at all to Max Roach,  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/14/2020 12:53 am : link
he'll have the DL playing with tempo!
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