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Giantsfan79 : 1/13/2020 4:24 pm
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As explained by Steve Doerschuk of the Canton Repository, new Browns coach Kevin Stefanski showed during his interview a willingness to yield to certain expectations of part-time chief strategy office Paul DePodesta, including having someone from the analytics group wearing a headset and having access to the coaching staff on game days. Stefanski also agreed to owner Jimmy Haslamís desire to engage in hours-long meetings with his head coach the day after games.

Dustin Fox of 92.3 The Fan in Cleveland added that the front office expects the head coach to ďturn in game plans to the owner and analytics department by Friday, and to attend an end-of-week analytics meeting to discuss their plan.



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Yeah, I heard  
Big Blue '56 : 1/13/2020 4:26 pm : link
that on Sirius this a.m.
Apparently  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/13/2020 4:32 pm : link
Everyone has a price
Some people dont mind being micro managed  
Rudy5757 : 1/13/2020 4:33 pm : link
but for a guy like Stefanski this may have been his only opportunity for a HC spot. With only 32 jobs sometimes you have to take whats offered plus the Minnesota ship is sinking so not a bad time to jump anyway.
RE: Some people dont mind being micro managed  
Big Blue '56 : 1/13/2020 4:35 pm : link
In comment 14777347 Rudy5757 said:
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but for a guy like Stefanski this may have been his only opportunity for a HC spot. With only 32 jobs sometimes you have to take whats offered plus the Minnesota ship is sinking so not a bad time to jump anyway.


I think thatís what was stated by one of the Sirius commentators
Turning in your game plan to non-football people???  
Soundtrack : 1/13/2020 4:36 pm : link
The owner and the analytics department? Wow.i would laugh but as bad as the Browns have been lately, we're actually worse over the last 5 years.

Thanks, Mara.
I'm not entirely surprised.  
Section331 : 1/13/2020 4:37 pm : link
This is where MLB is headed, and that is dePodesta's background. Many MLB managers are little more than motivational speakers.
It's the Browns...  
BamaBlue : 1/13/2020 4:39 pm : link
Nothing else has worked. This... why not?
That job sounds like torture  
sb2003 : 1/13/2020 4:44 pm : link
It's beyond micro management. What type of info will the analytic folks be feeding the coaches during game time? Will they be dictating play selection based on data?

Will they be looking to change some of the game plan with the Friday deadline?

Head coach in name only but I'm sure it's a nice paycheck. At least for a little while.
We have not been worse than the Browns the last 5 years.  
Shepherdsam : 1/13/2020 4:48 pm : link
Just the last two.
Ravens  
jestersdead : 1/13/2020 4:49 pm : link
have an analytics guy in the booth sitting next to Roman during games
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Daniel Stern, the teamís football analyst, sits beside Offensive Coordinator Greg Roman during games to help decide when to go for it on specific down and distance plays

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RE: Some people dont mind being micro managed  
Diver_Down : 1/13/2020 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14777347 Rudy5757 said:
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but for a guy like Stefanski this may have been his only opportunity for a HC spot. With only 32 jobs sometimes you have to take whats offered plus the Minnesota ship is sinking so not a bad time to jump anyway.


Huh? The logic of jumping ship doesn't make sense. Why would anyone jump from a sinking ship to one that is already resting on the bottom? Let's not crown the Browns again like they have won anything. And before Baker gets another commercial, can he manage to elevate his team to a .500 club? With all their "talent", they were worse this year then last and it wasn't all Freddie's fault.
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UConn4523 : 1/13/2020 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14777381 Diver_Down said:
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but for a guy like Stefanski this may have been his only opportunity for a HC spot. With only 32 jobs sometimes you have to take whats offered plus the Minnesota ship is sinking so not a bad time to jump anyway.



Huh? The logic of jumping ship doesn't make sense. Why would anyone jump from a sinking ship to one that is already resting on the bottom? Let's not crown the Browns again like they have won anything. And before Baker gets another commercial, can he manage to elevate his team to a .500 club? With all their "talent", they were worse this year then last and it wasn't all Freddie's fault.


Its a promotion with a massive pay raise....
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MOOPS : 1/13/2020 5:07 pm : link
Didnít Steinbrenner do the same stuff  
Spider56 : 1/13/2020 5:08 pm : link
with Billy Martin ?
The Browns  
johnnyb : 1/13/2020 5:10 pm : link
are the current version of what the Redskins have been for twenty years. You would think smart people would learn to stay away from things they do not understand (I am assuming Haslam is smart).
Did you get permission from the proper authorities  
Mr. Bungle : 1/13/2020 5:14 pm : link
to start a thread that's critical of a team other than the Giants?
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Diver_Down : 1/13/2020 5:14 pm : link
In comment 14777389 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14777347 Rudy5757 said:


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but for a guy like Stefanski this may have been his only opportunity for a HC spot. With only 32 jobs sometimes you have to take whats offered plus the Minnesota ship is sinking so not a bad time to jump anyway.



Huh? The logic of jumping ship doesn't make sense. Why would anyone jump from a sinking ship to one that is already resting on the bottom? Let's not crown the Browns again like they have won anything. And before Baker gets another commercial, can he manage to elevate his team to a .500 club? With all their "talent", they were worse this year then last and it wasn't all Freddie's fault.



Its a promotion with a massive pay raise....


That is entirely different than making the claim that someone is jumping from a sinking ship to one that has already sunk. I'm not faulting someone taking a promotion even with the micro-managing. But all too often, people want to crown the Browns as some up and coming uber-talented team when in reality they are the same losing team representing the same losing organization.
Analytics are nice, but  
an_idol_mind : 1/13/2020 5:17 pm : link
the coach still needs to interpret them properly and apply them in the right context. I think the next few years will see a divide between teams that use analytics appropriately and those that become too slavishly devoted to what the numbers tell them to do.
RE: Turning in your game plan to non-football people???  
santacruzom : 1/13/2020 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14777355 Soundtrack said:
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The owner and the analytics department? Wow.i would laugh but as bad as the Browns have been lately, we're actually worse over the last 5 years.

Thanks, Mara.


This sounds like the exact sort of thing my temporary (and hopefully, soon to be even more temporary) manager would do. I imagine the coach is going to have to invest untold hours, effort, energy, and emotion explaining himself and his work to people who aren't qualified to understand it.
Was reading up on haslam to find out how he made his money  
ron mexico : 1/13/2020 5:36 pm : link
And came across this....ooof

Since officially taking over the Browns seven games into the 2012 season, Haslam has a 21-75-1 record as team owner.
The best part of that is what if the Analytics dept doesn't agree  
widmerseyebrow : 1/13/2020 5:39 pm : link
on Friday? New game gameplan the day before the game? If not, then what's the point?
Sounds like DePo  
pjcas18 : 1/13/2020 5:43 pm : link
putting all his chips in and going all-in.

either he's the guy who find success in Cleveland or he'll probably be forced to return to baseball (IMO).

If nothing else, sounds like Cleveland will lean heavily on analytics, more than any other team so their results will be interesting.

I also wonder if analytics played a role in them selecting Mayfield and if not, if they're looking at QB now that Dorsey is gone and sounds like analytics are more running the show.

Pretty soon one of these guys is gonna turn down a coaching gig  
ghost718 : 1/13/2020 5:43 pm : link
for a job at Initech
if I were HC, the first time the analytics dept  
markky : 1/13/2020 5:45 pm : link
said a peep I'd rip them a new one and establish authority.
RE: Turning in your game plan to non-football people???  
joeinpa : 1/13/2020 5:52 pm : link
In comment 14777355 Soundtrack said:
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The owner and the analytics department? Wow.i would laugh but as bad as the Browns have been lately, we're actually worse over the last 5 years.

Thanks, Mara.


But they re actually better over the past 30 years, in fact during that time frame they have been better than most of the league,

Thanks Mara family.
RE: Pretty soon one of these guys is gonna turn down a coaching gig  
Giantsfan79 : 1/13/2020 5:57 pm : link
In comment 14777461 ghost718 said:
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for a job at Initech


the Brown's analytic meetings will like be less stressful than TPS reports
And you thought Mara and Jerry Jones were meddling owners.  
Ivan15 : 1/13/2020 6:45 pm : link
WOW! I can understand dragging the coaching staff into using analytics but this will be Sunday Morning Quarterbacking. Second guessing before it happens.

The worst may be the 1-hour meeting with the Owner. For the HC's sake, I hope that quickly adjourn after about 20 minutes.
DePodesta thinks football is like baseball  
Milton : 1/13/2020 7:17 pm : link
It's not. Baseball is one on one, pitcher vs batter. Football is eleven on eleven. It's like comparing checkers to chess.
I think a lot of these coaches would agree to anything. One  
eric2425ny : 1/13/2020 8:12 pm : link
solid contract and he is set for life. If they fire you they still have to pay you. Look how much McAdoo and Shurmur are still making off of us.
drop $20 million in my bank account  
MM_in_NYC : 1/13/2020 8:48 pm : link
and micro manage me all you want.
RE: Pretty soon one of these guys is gonna turn down a coaching gig  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/13/2020 9:44 pm : link
In comment 14777461 ghost718 said:
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for a job at Initech


Not if they still make Peter come in on a Saturday.


Fuckiní A
RE: drop $20 million in my bank account  
EricJ : 1/13/2020 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14777765 MM_in_NYC said:
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and micro manage me all you want.


Yep... then 18 months later they fire you and you spend the rest of your days living off of that investments you made
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