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Disturbed1 : 1/13/2020 6:12 pm
Probably how they lured him from Miami
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Disturbed1 : 1/13/2020 6:14 pm : link
He revised his tweet
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BleedBlue : 1/13/2020 6:15 pm : link
so much for needing a super experienced Assistant HC. giants going with the young coaching movement.

will either be genius or explode in face.

hoping for the former lol
That makes more sense  
Ira : 1/13/2020 6:16 pm : link
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Now  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/13/2020 6:16 pm : link
it makes more sense why Miami let him go.
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UConn4523 : 1/13/2020 6:19 pm : link
In comment 14777537 BleedBlue said:
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so much for needing a super experienced Assistant HC. giants going with the young coaching movement.

will either be genius or explode in face.

hoping for the former lol


I’m on board too, haha. It really can’t get worse.
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BleedBlue : 1/13/2020 6:22 pm : link
In comment 14777551 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14777537 BleedBlue said:


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so much for needing a super experienced Assistant HC. giants going with the young coaching movement.

will either be genius or explode in face.

hoping for the former lol



I’m on board too, haha. It really can’t get worse.


im def on board but it 100% can get worse lol...

if these guys flop we are looking at probably 3 more years of shit football than another year or two for new coach to get his system in place.

this could be over a decade of shit football by time its said and done.

I will pray though that judge turns it around and these young coaches get it done
When is the last time the Giants had an  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/13/2020 6:25 pm : link
"Assistant head coach"? This is kind of a precedent, no?
Years ago they changed the rules regarding promotion...  
Milton : 1/13/2020 6:29 pm : link
...because too many teams were stealing away other teams position coaches by giving them the title of asst head coach. The only promotion that is now recognized is head coach. You even need permission to interview another team's position coach for a coordinator job. So I don't think the Asst Head Coach title (if that's a title they're giving him, which isn't entirely nclear in the twitter message) makes any difference in terms of getting permission from Miami.
I always found the title assistant unappealing  
BestFeature : 1/13/2020 6:31 pm : link
Sounds like you're entry level in the 60s. Nothing to add to this discussion but you'd think they'd have more sophisticated titles in the NFL.
So, now I wonder  
5BowlsSoon : 1/13/2020 6:37 pm : link
If Flores really was opening the door to let Graham out of town because he is a nice guy who wants to make his friends happy.
Nice, we are creating a Think Tank  
RobCrossRiver56 : 1/13/2020 6:41 pm : link
The young staff is a bit scary but exciting. Let's hope Judge knows how to pull this off.
RE: So, now I wonder  
jvm52106 : 1/13/2020 6:42 pm : link
In comment 14777581 5BowlsSoon said:
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If Flores really was opening the door to let Graham out of town because he is a nice guy who wants to make his friends happy.


I think so and keep in mind Flores is the defacto Def Co. It is his defense and now Graham can have his own defense.
I would have been much more comfortable  
BobsYourUncle : 1/13/2020 6:45 pm : link
With more experience... but I liked Bettcher coming from AZ, so WTF do I know.

Obviously, JJ sees great things in Graham.
I thought they created this title  
Matt in SGS : 1/13/2020 6:46 pm : link
not only to get more $$, but the purpose to designate a coach with the assistant head coach title was that for that coach to leave the team for another job, that job had to be as a head coach. So if that's the case, if everything works for the Giants, the only way that Graham could leave is to be the head coach, he couldn't go and be a DC anywhere else. I could be wrong, but as I recall, it was done to kind of flag for teams that he's a potential head coach and the only way he was going to leave was to give him that job.
Also believe  
Manning10 : 1/13/2020 6:57 pm : link
This would give Graham added Juice if he want to be a head coach someday.
Can Bettcher be kept as..  
morrison40 : 1/13/2020 6:59 pm : link
The Assistant to the Assistant Head Coach ?
Judge is realizing that it is much harder to assemble a staff of  
Ivan15 : 1/13/2020 7:12 pm : link
experienced teacher-coaches than he thought.

Unless he can find a former HC willing to drop back to OC, I think we are going to get an NFL up-and-comer first time OC, or an experienced college OC.

Garrett,Caldwell likely not willing to be OCs at this point. Is Kitchens still in play? McAdoo may be looking better and better. LOL
Re:Judge is realizing that it is much harder to assemble a staff of  
Aaron Thomas : 1/13/2020 7:14 pm : link
How do you know this is true? Could it be he isn't looking for that type of coach and wants to bring his people in? Are you sure he even contacted them and that they turned him down?
This makes a lot more sense to me now  
Chris684 : 1/13/2020 7:21 pm : link
Not regarding why Judge would pick him but why Graham would leave and why Miami would “let” him leave.
Not sure why that double posted  
Chris684 : 1/13/2020 7:22 pm : link
Sorry
RE: Now  
jcn56 : 1/13/2020 7:32 pm : link
In comment 14777544 Eric from BBI said:
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it makes more sense why Miami let him go.


Does it? The AHC title generally means more money, but if Flores wanted to keep him and the divide was over cash, does anyone really think Ross wouldn't pay up to keep his guy?
have to wonder if this deters  
Andy in Boston : 1/13/2020 7:37 pm : link
someone like Garret or Jay Gruden to come as an OC...as they would likely wanted that title, given they've been head coaches before.
RE: Re:Judge is realizing that it is much harder to assemble a staff of  
Ivan15 : 1/13/2020 8:03 pm : link
In comment 14777619 Aaron Thomas said:
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How do you know this is true? Could it be he isn't looking for that type of coach and wants to bring his people in? Are you sure he even contacted them and that they turned him down?


Do you want me to put “pr9bably” in my comment? Fine.
Must be that  
Darth Paul : 1/13/2020 8:04 pm : link
Yale degree.
RE: RE: Now  
Jay on the Island : 1/13/2020 8:11 pm : link
In comment 14777645 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14777544 Eric from BBI said:


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it makes more sense why Miami let him go.



Does it? The AHC title generally means more money, but if Flores wanted to keep him and the divide was over cash, does anyone really think Ross wouldn't pay up to keep his guy?

My buddy is a Phins fan and he said that they are high on Boyer and were ready to give him a promotion which played a part in Graham becoming available.
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bradshaw44 : 1/13/2020 8:23 pm : link
In comment 14777537 BleedBlue said:
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so much for needing a super experienced Assistant HC. giants going with the young coaching movement.

will either be genius or explode in face.

hoping for the former lol


Well they are coming off two explosions to the face so I think they are willing to take that risk. At this point what does it matter?
RE: have to wonder if this deters  
bradshaw44 : 1/13/2020 8:32 pm : link
In comment 14777652 Andy in Boston said:
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someone like Garret or Jay Gruden to come as an OC...as they would likely wanted that title, given they've been head coaches before.


In the time I spent around Gruden here in Ashburn he really enjoys his free time going out drinking and banging young girls. My guess is he will take a year off to party. Would not shock me at all. Dude gets down.
Wonder if they plan to add Glenn also  
Rflairr : 1/13/2020 8:37 pm : link
Pass Game Coordinator?
RE: RE: So, now I wonder  
Reale01 : 1/13/2020 8:41 pm : link
In comment 14777588 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 14777581 5BowlsSoon said:


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If Flores really was opening the door to let Graham out of town because he is a nice guy who wants to make his friends happy.



I think so and keep in mind Flores is the defacto Def Co. It is his defense and now Graham can have his own defense.


Giants job may come with a significant pay raise. Flores would not want to stand in the way.
i just wanna know who the OC is  
japanhead : 1/13/2020 8:43 pm : link
already.
Do not worry about titles  
TMS : 1/13/2020 8:51 pm : link
Judge is running this show top to bottom. IMO
RE: When is the last time the Giants had an  
mdc1 : 1/13/2020 8:56 pm : link
In comment 14777561 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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"Assistant head coach"? This is kind of a precedent, no?


Did they do that with Spags to keep him?
RE: Judge is realizing that it is much harder to assemble a staff of  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/13/2020 9:03 pm : link
In comment 14777616 Ivan15 said:
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experienced teacher-coaches than he thought.

Unless he can find a former HC willing to drop back to OC, I think we are going to get an NFL up-and-comer first time OC, or an experienced college OC.

Garrett,Caldwell likely not willing to be OCs at this point. Is Kitchens still in play? McAdoo may be looking better and better. LOL


And you are basing your statement on? I'm under the impression that he's getting the guys who he wants.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/13/2020 9:04 pm : link
In comment 14777645 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14777544 Eric from BBI said:


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it makes more sense why Miami let him go.



Does it? The AHC title generally means more money, but if Flores wanted to keep him and the divide was over cash, does anyone really think Ross wouldn't pay up to keep his guy?


Yes it does. For years, this one of the only ways you can get a guy to make what effectively is a lateral move.
Looks like Judge is a wild card who will  
TMS : 1/13/2020 9:05 pm : link
make hires and decisions based on his criteria. No problem with that if it works. We will see.
RE: I would have been much more comfortable  
Darth Paul : 1/13/2020 9:25 pm : link
In comment 14777591 BobsYourUncle said:
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With more experience... but I liked Bettcher coming from AZ, so WTF do I know.

Obviously, JJ sees great things in Graham.


Was excited too. AZ was good. I do not like Miami's Def, so I was not a fan of the higher. Which means he'll probably do awesome.
RE: RE: When is the last time the Giants had an  
jpetuch : 1/13/2020 9:31 pm : link
In comment 14777787 mdc1 said:
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"Assistant head coach"? This is kind of a precedent, no?

Ron Erhardt?



Did they do that with Spags to keep him?
RE: RE: RE: When is the last time the Giants had an  
jpetuch : 1/13/2020 9:32 pm : link
In comment 14777868 jpetuch said:
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"Assistant head coach"? This is kind of a precedent, no?

Ron Erhardt?



Did they do that with Spags to keep him?



Ron Erhardt
What’s with  
cjac : 1/13/2020 9:38 pm : link
The racism?

Wtf
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/13/2020 9:48 pm : link
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The racism?

Wtf


It is getting weird.
RE: What’s with  
Leg of Theismann : 1/13/2020 9:51 pm : link
In comment 14777881 cjac said:
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The racism?

Wtf


Huh? Where?
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Leg of Theismann : 1/13/2020 9:51 pm : link
In comment 14777898 Eric from BBI said:
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The racism?

Wtf



It is getting weird.


Who's comment?
I  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/13/2020 9:55 pm : link
deleted it.
RE: I  
Mike in Prescott : 1/13/2020 9:59 pm : link
In comment 14777919 Eric from BBI said:
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deleted it.


Thank you. That was bothersome.
The crybabies are out in force  
Joey in VA : 1/13/2020 10:15 pm : link
Again over hires they literally know nothing about. You don't know ANY of these people aside from names and what you can google. You don't know their demeanor, philosophy, talent level, ability level, literally fucking nothing so stfu already.
RE: I  
MM_in_NYC : 1/13/2020 10:17 pm : link
In comment 14777919 Eric from BBI said:
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deleted it.


didn't see the comment. is the poster suspended? who was it?
RE: When is the last time the Giants had an  
Mcphedge : 1/13/2020 10:29 pm : link
In comment 14777561 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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"Assistant head coach"? This is kind of a precedent, no?



...RAY f'in HANDLEY... was Parcells' AHC in 1990
RE: Can Bettcher be kept as..  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/14/2020 12:00 am : link
In comment 14777601 morrison40 said:
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The Assistant to the Assistant Head Coach ?


As long as he doesn’t coach defense ever again w the Giants Sure. Guy was a disaster in NY
RE: That makes more sense  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/14/2020 12:17 am : link
In comment 14777541 Ira said:
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Yup. It wasn't a lateral move as many thought and it was initially portrayed.
God these hires have failure written all over them  
giantsFC : 1/14/2020 1:44 am : link
The more i read and see how the judge regime acts and who they hire, the less I fel it’s going to work in 2020.

But what do I know? It’s 50/50 any of us are right.

Just please bring back Giants football,
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