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battttles : 1/14/2020 12:16 am
He has done an exceptional job with this LSU QB and offense. Broyles award winner, NFL experience with NO. Is this the greatest college offense ever? Seems destined to join the NFL.

Would be thrilled to have him. He was a GA at Penn State with Barkley.

Expect that with any success as an NFL OC that he'll get HC looks before he turns 33.

Probably ends up a Panther.
Didn't he  
santacruzom : 1/14/2020 12:19 am : link
Sign an extension at LSU though?
Off the market...  
bw in dc : 1/14/2020 12:20 am : link
LSU extended him.

I wanted to interview him as a HC candidate...
Maybe his extension  
santacruzom : 1/14/2020 12:21 am : link
Can't prevent him from being a candidate for NFL jobs.
...  
battttles : 1/14/2020 12:21 am : link
Quote:
Ross Dellenger
@RossDellenger

Jan 11
News: #LSU asst Joe Brady, via a signed MOA, has agreed to a new contract, sources tell
@SINow
. Parameters in flux, but for now it is 3 yrs/~$3M+

Deal protects LSU from losing Brady to college asst jobs, but provides flexibility for a jump to the #NFL.
RE: Off the market...  
section125 : 1/14/2020 12:22 am : link
In comment 14778101 bw in dc said:
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LSU extended him.

I wanted to interview him as a HC candidate...


Ironclad, or an NFL out clause?
RE: ...  
bw in dc : 1/14/2020 12:22 am : link
In comment 14778104 battttles said:
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Ross Dellenger
@RossDellenger

Jan 11
News: #LSU asst Joe Brady, via a signed MOA, has agreed to a new contract, sources tell
@SINow
. Parameters in flux, but for now it is 3 yrs/~$3M+

Deal protects LSU from losing Brady to college asst jobs, but provides flexibility for a jump to the #NFL.



JHC...that's a f-ckin bargain!
He was linked to Wink weeks ago  
battttles : 1/14/2020 12:27 am : link
no chance he signed a $3M contract that locked him into CFB.

Tepper's about to give him $6m per.
RE: RE: Off the market...  
bw in dc : 1/14/2020 12:30 am : link
In comment 14778106 section125 said:
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In comment 14778101 bw in dc said:


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LSU extended him.

I wanted to interview him as a HC candidate...



Ironclad, or an NFL out clause?


I really don't know. I think I saw a headline somewhere...
Gets a shoutout from Coach O on stage  
battttles : 1/14/2020 12:35 am : link
only after Burrow. Wild.
All I know is that  
BlackLight : 1/14/2020 12:39 am : link
the timing is pretty convenient. We're hiring all these assistants and position coaches, but the OC position remains open.

I have to think that, at minimum, the Giants are going to inquire about Brady. He's got his National Championship, and Judge is going to let him call his own plays. This is an attractive job - he gets to work with a young QB and Saquon Barkley.
Herbstreit:  
battttles : 1/14/2020 12:43 am : link
"30 years of covering this sport, this is the best offense I've ever covered."
RE: All I know is that  
Giants38 : 1/14/2020 12:46 am : link
In comment 14778120 BlackLight said:
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the timing is pretty convenient. We're hiring all these assistants and position coaches, but the OC position remains open.

I have to think that, at minimum, the Giants are going to inquire about Brady. He's got his National Championship, and Judge is going to let him call his own plays. This is an attractive job - he gets to work with a young QB and Saquon Barkley.


I agree with you. Whether it is because they were waiting for Joe Brady and his season to end, or Jason Garrett, whose contract with the Cowboys officially expires today (January 14), I have no idea, but it is clear that something is up.

I think people can forget about Chad O'Shea, unless he is a fallback option. He was already fired by Flores, so he is available to us without restriction. If he was Judge's choice for OC, he'd already be here.

If the Giants want Brady, though, they better not mess around. He's already been linked to Rhule in Carolina, and with the performance LSU just gave in this game, his name will only get hotter. Of course, the Giants are going to have to pony up to get him, because he's got a nice extension coming to him at LSU, and you can bet Carolina will offer him plenty of money there.
RE: RE: All I know is that  
BlackLight : 1/14/2020 12:59 am : link
In comment 14778132 Giants38 said:
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If the Giants want Brady, though, they better not mess around. He's already been linked to Rhule in Carolina, and with the performance LSU just gave in this game, his name will only get hotter. Of course, the Giants are going to have to pony up to get him, because he's got a nice extension coming to him at LSU, and you can bet Carolina will offer him plenty of money there.


Yeah, unfortunately, we really can't compete with Carolina's checkbook. There's no way any team pays an OC more than their HC, but Carolina paying Rhule that ridiculous contract has the hidden benefit of allowing them to also overpay Brady if they want to. The Giants can theoretically match any offer, but not if it makes Judge their second highest paid coach.
RE: RE: RE: All I know is that  
Giants38 : 1/14/2020 1:10 am : link
In comment 14778139 BlackLight said:
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In comment 14778132 Giants38 said:


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If the Giants want Brady, though, they better not mess around. He's already been linked to Rhule in Carolina, and with the performance LSU just gave in this game, his name will only get hotter. Of course, the Giants are going to have to pony up to get him, because he's got a nice extension coming to him at LSU, and you can bet Carolina will offer him plenty of money there.



Yeah, unfortunately, we really can't compete with Carolina's checkbook. There's no way any team pays an OC more than their HC, but Carolina paying Rhule that ridiculous contract has the hidden benefit of allowing them to also overpay Brady if they want to. The Giants can theoretically match any offer, but not if it makes Judge their second highest paid coach.


I agree with that statement. If Carolina wants to pay Brady $5 million per year, he's obviously unattainable. But the Giants better be prepared to go to $2 million or $3 million per year to get him. I would have to look, but those are the numbers typically paid to the top assistants. I think Garrett previously received that as an OC, and I'm guessing that he will command a salary like that now if we want him.

If the Giants want talent at OC, they are going to have to pay for it. If you want to be cheap, you'll probably get crap.
We shall see  
jvm52106 : 1/14/2020 7:06 am : link
but if we were to get Brady that would make this coaching search a success and though other position coaches would still be needed the focus for us would shift to FA and the draft.

"But the Giants better be prepared to go to $2 million or $3 million  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/14/2020 7:50 am : link
per year to get him." He's already making $3 so I think one would need to raise their expectations.
Couple points  
RetroJint : 1/14/2020 8:03 am : link
1. He lost his best corner, probably the best player on the team, early in the season.

2. On the issue of Zone vs Man, I think Chris Speilman had some interesting ideas about it this season. Chris got stuck doing the Giants games frequently the last 2 seasons . That means heís low on their depth chart of analysts , which is too bad. He has some fresh takes on what has become very stale commentary from people like Aikman.

Anyway , he was an excellent zone linebacker, though hardly fleet of foot . He said the reason why the Giants zone coverages were so shitty was because the defender would stay with covering strictly area . He felt that after the QB held the ball for a couple of seconds , the defender should change focus and stay on the guy he was covering . In other words , a match zone to use a basketball analogy .

I donít care if a defense uses a preponderance of zone . I want it to be an effective zone . Staying Buckeye , here, Ohio St played mostly zone this season . They played it as Speilman advocated . They had great coverages . There was nothing passive about their defense.

The Giants Defense was a joke the last two seasons . Truly this season canít be worse . My very best to Graham and the defensive staff .
RE: All I know is that  
Section331 : 1/14/2020 8:18 am : link
In comment 14778120 BlackLight said:
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the timing is pretty convenient. We're hiring all these assistants and position coaches, but the OC position remains open.

I have to think that, at minimum, the Giants are going to inquire about Brady. He's got his National Championship, and Judge is going to let him call his own plays. This is an attractive job - he gets to work with a young QB and Saquon Barkley.


Fingers crossed. I know all the buzz has been about Rhule bringing him to the NFL, but maybe Judge has connections too.
Would he really sign an extension just to jump immediately?  
Ben in Tampa : 1/14/2020 8:46 am : link
I figure heís going to stick around LSU for 2020 and then become the hot NFL HC candidate in 2021
RE: Would he really sign an extension just to jump immediately?  
Giants38 : 1/14/2020 10:38 am : link
In comment 14778268 Ben in Tampa said:
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I figure heís going to stick around LSU for 2020 and then become the hot NFL HC candidate in 2021


I don't think he is making $3 million/year with the extension. I think his extension raises his salary to the $1 million to $1.5 million per year range. Obviously we would have to beat that to get him from LSU.

In any event, I don't think he will be an NFL HC candidate next season. The only collegiate coordinator I remember making a direct jump to the NFL HC ranks was Lane Kiffin with the Raiders. Kingsbury made the jump last year, but he had just been a collegiate HC.
RE: Couple points  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/14/2020 10:55 am : link
In comment 14778215 RetroJint said:
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1. He lost his best corner, probably the best player on the team, early in the season.

2. On the issue of Zone vs Man, I think Chris Speilman had some interesting ideas about it this season. Chris got stuck doing the Giants games frequently the last 2 seasons . That means heís low on their depth chart of analysts , which is too bad. He has some fresh takes on what has become very stale commentary from people like Aikman.

Anyway , he was an excellent zone linebacker, though hardly fleet of foot . He said the reason why the Giants zone coverages were so shitty was because the defender would stay with covering strictly area . He felt that after the QB held the ball for a couple of seconds , the defender should change focus and stay on the guy he was covering . In other words , a match zone to use a basketball analogy .

I donít care if a defense uses a preponderance of zone . I want it to be an effective zone . Staying Buckeye , here, Ohio St played mostly zone this season . They played it as Speilman advocated . They had great coverages . There was nothing passive about their defense.

The Giants Defense was a joke the last two seasons . Truly this season canít be worse . My very best to Graham and the defensive staff .


This is a bizarre post on many levels. Brady is the OC not the DC.

Secondly, have you heard some of the shit Spielman said on the Giants broadcasts at the end of the year?

He praised Bethea for having an excellent season, Shurmur for being an excellent playcaller and Ogletree for being all over the field. That shows an astounding lack of research.
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