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'Belichick & Saban: The Art of Coaching'

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/14/2020 3:13 pm
Just watched it & thought it was very, very well done. They're obviously the GOATs in terms of head coaching in college & pros respectively. One thing that I found interesting-and pertinent now with Judge-is that they don't look fondly upon former assistants raiding their staffs when they become the top dog somewhere. I believe Mangini did that with BB when he came to the Jets & BB all but swore him off.

Anyways, if you're looking to kill an hour & a half, check out this documentary. I saw it on Amazon Prime.
Amazon Prime does not have it  
JohnB : 1/14/2020 3:21 pm : link
You to buy the HBO package to get it
One of the best football presentations I've seen in awhile...  
Chris684 : 1/14/2020 3:31 pm : link
Their take on raiding former staffs doesn't really shock me.

What totally floored me was when Saban told Bill that only he and one other individual in the NFL bother to personally ask him about his draft prospects in a given year.
RE: One of the best football presentations I've seen in awhile...  
JohnB : 1/14/2020 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14779014 Chris684 said:
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Their take on raiding former staffs doesn't really shock me.

What totally floored me was when Saban told Bill that only he and one other individual in the NFL bother to personally ask him about his draft prospects in a given year.


Cutcliff said that only 2 HC personally called him about Daniel Jones. It was Shurmur and Belichick who called, no one else.
RE: RE: One of the best football presentations I've seen in awhile...  
joeinpa : 1/14/2020 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14779041 JohnB said:
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In comment 14779014 Chris684 said:


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Their take on raiding former staffs doesn't really shock me.

What totally floored me was when Saban told Bill that only he and one other individual in the NFL bother to personally ask him about his draft prospects in a given year.



Cutcliff said that only 2 HC personally called him about Daniel Jones. It was Shurmur and Belichick who called, no one else.


Both those situations are either incredibly sloppy on the part of the NFL teams, or there is some legitimate reason which escapes me for neglecting to do so.
Not calling coaches  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/14/2020 4:19 pm : link
I could say a reason why. Maybe the coaches are known to prop up their players? What is a coach gonna say? Yeah I think he is going to struggle.

I don't think it would serve the college coach well to say anything negative which could have a big impact on recruiting. Just like it is rare that NFL coaches ever say negative things about players.
RE: Not calling coaches  
JohnB : 1/14/2020 4:28 pm : link
In comment 14779114 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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I could say a reason why. Maybe the coaches are known to prop up their players? What is a coach gonna say? Yeah I think he is going to struggle.

I don't think it would serve the college coach well to say anything negative which could have a big impact on recruiting. Just like it is rare that NFL coaches ever say negative things about players.


One of the biggest recruiting tools is to say that you've gotten players into the NFL.

If a college coach is known to lie about their players and puff them up, NFL coaches are going to ignore them and what they say and maybe pass on his players. If a coach is a straight shooter with NFL coaches, then teams are more willing to take a chance on there players.

So I'm guessing that lying to Bill Belichick isn't a great career move. But that's just my guess.
Arrogance  
PaulN : 1/14/2020 5:51 pm : link
To not ask, that and stupidity, but as Bill Walsh said, there are no geniuses in football, that is for certain.
Good show, but why  
David B. : 1/14/2020 6:14 pm : link
Does Belichick's daughter have Bill Parcells' face?

(I probably don't want to know).
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