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Dexter Lawrence named to PFW All-Rookie Team

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/14/2020 3:44 pm
New York Giants @Giants
.@llawrence2139 has been named to the 2019 @PFWAwriters
All-Rookie Team & #128079;
Well deserved.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/14/2020 3:45 pm : link
Good pick.
Here's the whole team.  
Klaatu : 1/14/2020 3:48 pm : link
.....
Link - ( New Window )
Fire Gettleman!  
Chris684 : 1/14/2020 3:54 pm : link
..
But wait...  
Brown_Hornet : 1/14/2020 3:56 pm : link
...the defense was horrible so:
- Draft status is irrelevant
- Over drafted/overpaid
- Only 2.5 sacks
- somethingsomething, money
- somethingsomething, stats
- somethingsomething, look at me
- Gettleman is horrible
- did I mention, look at me?
2.5 sacks..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/14/2020 3:58 pm : link
is atrocious!!
DG sucks and deserves to be fired for this atrocity  
Eli Wilson : 1/14/2020 4:00 pm : link
..
Murray deserves the nod over Jones  
Chris684 : 1/14/2020 4:02 pm : link
for starting the full season but this team could have just as easily included Jones and/or Slayton.

Not a bad haul.
Too bad Baker  
Rudy5757 : 1/14/2020 4:14 pm : link
showed so poorly. I was expecting so much more, hopefully a new coach and a new scheme does him well.
A broken clock, etc., etc.  
Klaatu : 1/14/2020 4:24 pm : link
Anyway, good for Lawrence. He's the guy I wanted the Giants to draft at #17 (after taking Allen at #6, lol).
Connelly would have been in contention had he not gotten hurt.  
DCGMan : 1/14/2020 4:35 pm : link
Like the early returns from the 2019 rookies.
Lawrence was a surprise to me. I didn't hate the pick, but he did  
Ira : 1/14/2020 4:43 pm : link
much better than I expected.
Liked the pick  
Thegratefulhead : 1/14/2020 4:54 pm : link
Not surprised.

Not worthy of back patting though  
Thegratefulhead : 1/14/2020 4:58 pm : link
The legitimate criticism of DG is 4-12 in year 2 after 5-11. Win some games, I don't give a shit about RoY, all rookie teams or participation trophies. Win more games than last year. How about meeting that really low bar?
Looks like playing alongside...  
bw in dc : 1/14/2020 5:03 pm : link
LW down the stretch sealed the deal.
RE: Looks like playing alongside...  
Thegratefulhead : 1/14/2020 5:05 pm : link
In comment 14779189 bw in dc said:
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LW down the stretch sealed the deal.
Yay! All Rookie team. woot woot! 4-12.
DeAndre Baker trade up looks worse and worse  
Vanzetti : 1/14/2020 5:13 pm : link
With Murphy-Bunting making the team. Giants could have just stayed at 37 and picked him without giving up two additional picks

But overall, it is looking like a very strong draft, Slayton and Vonnely in tone fifth—that’s good
How did George Rodgers win ROY over Lawrence Taylor  
WillieYoung : 1/14/2020 5:18 pm : link
Only 1 Giant ROY since '66.
RE: DeAndre Baker trade up looks worse and worse  
Jay on the Island : 1/14/2020 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14779201 Vanzetti said:
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With Murphy-Bunting making the team. Giants could have just stayed at 37 and picked him without giving up two additional picks

But overall, it is looking like a very strong draft, Slayton and Vonnely in tone fifth—that’s good

If Jones develops into a franchise QB and Slayton into a #1 WR then this has the chance to be an franchise all time great class with Lawrence, Baker, Connelly, Slayton, Ximines, and Ballentine.

Even though he wasn’t a Giants pick I like to include Kaden Smith in the class as well.
RE: DeAndre Baker trade up looks worse and worse  
Klaatu : 1/14/2020 5:31 pm : link
In comment 14779201 Vanzetti said:
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With Murphy-Bunting making the team. Giants could have just stayed at 37 and picked him without giving up two additional picks

But overall, it is looking like a very strong draft, Slayton and Vonnely in tone fifth—that’s good


When they traded up, I thought they were going to draft Jawaan Taylor. I would've bet on that.
What? Now everyone loves PFF?  
V.I.G. : 1/14/2020 5:47 pm : link
/sarcasm off/
RE: RE: DeAndre Baker trade up looks worse and worse  
Vanzetti : 1/14/2020 5:49 pm : link
In comment 14779217 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14779201 Vanzetti said:


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With Murphy-Bunting making the team. Giants could have just stayed at 37 and picked him without giving up two additional picks

But overall, it is looking like a very strong draft, Slayton and Vonnely in tone fifth—that’s good


If Jones develops into a franchise QB and Slayton into a #1 WR then this has the chance to be an franchise all time great class with Lawrence, Baker, Connelly, Slayton, Ximines, and Ballentine.

Even though he wasn’t a Giants pick I like to include Kaden Smith in the class as well.


I forgot about Smith. Excellent pick up. I have been critical of DG but this was a very strong draft. Even Baker might not turn out to be a bad pick.
RE: What? Now everyone loves PFF?  
Klaatu : 1/14/2020 5:56 pm : link
In comment 14779249 V.I.G. said:
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/sarcasm off/


It's not PFF. It's the Pro Football Writers of America (PFWA).

See the link I posted above.
Leonard Williams...  
bw in dc : 1/14/2020 6:06 pm : link
made the 2015 PFWA All Rookie Team.

So now we have two highly productive DTs who made the All Rookie Team.
Just Imagine  
BobsYourUncle : 1/14/2020 6:43 pm : link
When they get good coaching... (drops the Mic)
Baker wiped the cobwebs off ...  
Manny in CA : 1/14/2020 7:47 pm : link

Toward the end of the season; this year with better coaching he'll continue to grow. He just has way too much natural ability not to be a terrific player.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/21/giants-deandre-baker-beginning-to-shed-bust-label/
I thought Lawrence would be the best Defensive Player of His Draft  
Rafflee : 1/14/2020 7:49 pm : link
That may not happen, but give me HIS performance from my Mid 1st Round Pick every single year!
I'm not worried about Baker.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/14/2020 9:10 pm : link
He's going to be fine. He's a rookie. CB is a tough, tough position to transition to from college to pros. Hell, Webster looked like hot trash until Buffalo in '07. Give Baker more time, better coaching, & he'll be good.
RE: RE: What? Now everyone loves PFF?  
V.I.G. : 1/14/2020 9:34 pm : link
In comment 14779272 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14779249 V.I.G. said:


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/sarcasm off/



It's not PFF. It's the Pro Football Writers of America (PFWA).

See the link I posted above.

Sorry, my bad /earnest on/
that is a really good defensive line  
islander1 : 1/14/2020 11:40 pm : link
whoa.
Gardner Minshew  
Giant4Life : 1/15/2020 6:09 am : link
Daniel Jones outplayed by a 6th round pick. Could have a better career than any QB in the draft
RE: Gardner Minshew  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/15/2020 8:14 am : link
In comment 14779777 Giant4Life said:
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Daniel Jones outplayed by a 6th round pick. Could have a better career than any QB in the draft


After the hype wore down over his moustache and outfits, Minshew wasn't any great shakes.
If Minshew wasn't any great shakes, then it doesn't say much for Jones  
Go Terps : 1/15/2020 12:34 pm : link
Minshew was better by nearly every measure.
Jesus..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/15/2020 1:06 pm : link
Christ. And if Minshew was a Giant you'd say he had serious questions to answer and bitch endlessly.
RE: Jesus..  
Go Terps : 1/15/2020 1:12 pm : link
In comment 14780426 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Christ. And if Minshew was a Giant you'd say he had serious questions to answer and bitch endlessly.


Actually I'd be thrilled that we got such great value out of a 6th round pick. I've got no qualms giving the Giants credit for good moves. It's just that they've made so few of them.
So..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/15/2020 1:19 pm : link
Drafting Jones wasn't a good move?

And I'm not sure how Minshew was better "by nearly every measure"? This is the bullshit you've denigrated to spewing to be as anti-Giants as possible.

Jones had a better completion %, better YPG passing, and more TD's in 1 less game. He also had 5 300+ yard games to Minshew's 2.

"Every measure" has been greatly cheapened here.
But But But  
figgy2989 : 1/15/2020 1:27 pm : link
Minshew had more rushing yards! However, Jones averaged 6.2 yards per carry and to Minshew's 5.1.

We know all Terps is doing is trying to poke the bear here.
FMiC  
Go Terps : 1/15/2020 1:50 pm : link
Sorry...I should have said the measures that matter. 300 yard games? Come on...

Minshew had a better YPA (7.0-6.5), adjusted net yards/attempt (6.44-5.38), lower INT% (1.3-2.6), and fewer turnovers (13-23). And of course, a 6-6 record as a starter vs. Jones's 3-9. And Jacksonville got him for a fraction of what we threw away on Leonard Williams...not the 6th pick overall.

Was drafting Jones a good move? I don't know. I liked it at the time...I still think he's a better prospect than Haskins or Lock. But I liked Jones less and less as the year went along. Hopefully he improves the pocket awareness and ball security, because as long as the support staff is around he isn't going anywhere.
So a thread about  
Mr. Bungle : 1/15/2020 1:57 pm : link
Dexter Lawrence earning an honor has quickly deteriorated into bashing a completely different Giants player.

Why am I not surprised? The conversation around here is just awful these days.
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