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Iowa OT Tristan Wirfs declares for the NFL Draft

Anakim : 1/14/2020 7:00 pm
That's a big one. He's definitely going to be in the conversation as a top-10 pick.


Gonna be interesting to see who OT1 is, with Wirfs, Wills, and Thomas. And I guess some like Becton, too.
Thereís buzz that some folks believe heíll need to kick inside  
Saos1n : 1/14/2020 7:03 pm : link
To OG in the NFL. Patiently awaiting Syís write ups, although he didnít post any of his Prospects to Watch this year. Makes you wonder if he isnít going to contribute to BBI this year. Iím sure heís busy. Guess weíll find out
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ryanmkeane : 1/14/2020 7:14 pm : link
Donít pretend to know a lick about OL prospects but in my ďthis probably means nothingĒ analysis I think Wills is the guy if we go OL early
Just looking at  
ryanmkeane : 1/14/2020 7:14 pm : link
and watching Wirfs play he reminds me of Andrus Peat
Becton is an absolute mammoth  
90.Cal : 1/14/2020 7:15 pm : link
Wirfs reminds me of Brandon Scherff
Thomas could be a franchise OLT

+ there is at least another half dozen very good OT prospects in this years class... not to mention alot of talent centers as well.
Not one tackle is worth the 4th pick  
uconngiant : 1/14/2020 7:19 pm : link
Trade down or draft BPA

I like Simmons a lot who can cover, blitz and tackle
Which one  
Fast Eddie : 1/14/2020 7:21 pm : link
Is a sixty minute, punch in the nose kinda guy.......Iíll take a bunch of those
RE: Becton is an absolute mammoth  
richinpa : 1/14/2020 7:44 pm : link
In comment 14779402 90.Cal said:
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Wirfs reminds me of Brandon Scherff
Thomas could be a franchise OLT

+ there is at least another half dozen very good OT prospects in this years class... not to mention alot of talent centers as well.



Thomas-franchise? Have you watched him in the last 3 games he played? I would not pick this guy in Top 10 and would go Willis before him hands down. just sayin.....

lets see how he grades out in the combines
Danny Pinter - ORT - Ball State  
KeoweeFan : 1/14/2020 7:44 pm : link
A possible later round pick. He projects inside.
(He is the grandson of a close friend).
PFF (Cam Mellor Jan 6, 2020) rated him #4 overall OL; but outside of that I don't recall any mention of him.

Anyone familiar with Danny?

BTW, he is a great kid, very intelligent (already graduated after 3 1/2 years), former TE. A leader and very athletic per his coach. I'd love to see him in Giant blue despite the fact he is a die hard Bears fan :)
Iíve professed my love for Becton on this board many times  
Earl the goat : 1/14/2020 7:49 pm : link
Iím going out on a line here
I bet Sy56 makes him his top OT
Iíve watched a lot of Louisville games. I think heís got the most talent of all the Tackles
In the brief  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/14/2020 7:53 pm : link
videos I've seen, Wirf interests me the most right now of all of the OLs (but it's early).
I love both Wirfs and Epenesa  
Chris684 : 1/14/2020 8:02 pm : link
Iím torn.
RE: Becton is an absolute mammoth  
tyrik13 : 1/14/2020 8:08 pm : link
In comment 14779402 90.Cal said:
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Wirfs reminds me of Brandon Scherff
Thomas could be a franchise OLT

+ there is at least another half dozen very good OT prospects in this years class... not to mention alot of talent centers as well.


Thomas is NOT a franchise left tackle, you might wanna go back and watch tape buddy. Hell hes sliding so much right now heís not even the no.1 OT in a lot of peopleís boards anymore.
RE: RE: Becton is an absolute mammoth  
tyrik13 : 1/14/2020 8:09 pm : link
In comment 14779439 richinpa said:
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In comment 14779402 90.Cal said:


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Wirfs reminds me of Brandon Scherff
Thomas could be a franchise OLT

+ there is at least another half dozen very good OT prospects in this years class... not to mention alot of talent centers as well.




Thomas-franchise? Have you watched him in the last 3 games he played? I would not pick this guy in Top 10 and would go Willis before him hands down. just sayin.....

lets see how he grades out in the combines


Absolutely correct sir. A lot of people have Wirfs and Willis ahead of Thomas now. Iím expecting him to slide even more
RE: Iíve professed my love for Becton on this board many times  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2020 8:17 pm : link
In comment 14779447 Earl the goat said:
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Iím going out on a line here
I bet Sy56 makes him his top OT
Iíve watched a lot of Louisville games. I think heís got the most talent of all the Tackles


Jonathan Ogden-like size and quick feet.
RE: Thereís buzz that some folks believe heíll need to kick inside  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/14/2020 8:35 pm : link
In comment 14779386 Saos1n said:
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To OG in the NFL.


Who said that?

GBN has him as their #5 overall prospect right now. Wirfs is my favorite guy for the Giants. I watched 5-6 complete Iowa games this season and never once saw him beaten around the edge. He's massive, yet a terrific athlete. He gets to the second level quickly. He can pull and be used on screens because of his quickness. He still can improve his technique (against bull rushes and staying on run blocks), but we're not talking about an Ereck Flowers who's completely technique deficient or Orlando Brown who was sort of an one trick pony (power/size). He was the first true freshman to start at offensive line under Kirk Ferentz. He played left tackle as a freshman, but moved to right tackle for the past 2 seasons. I think his upside is tremendous.

He turns 21 years-old in 10 days.
For you, Earl.  
Klaatu : 1/14/2020 8:42 pm : link
Boylhart loves Becton

(Although he does have Jackson and Thomas graded a tiny bit higher)
Wirfs needs to seriously be in play at # 4  
Dave in PA : 1/14/2020 9:13 pm : link
Kid is super strong and athletic with a presence and intensity to his game. He also has a wrestling background, which I like in any lineman. Iíve been hoping he would declare and hope heís in blue come draft day too.
RE: For you, Earl.  
Earl the goat : 1/14/2020 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14779535 Klaatu said:
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Boylhart loves Becton

(Although he does have Jackson and Thomas graded a tiny bit higher)


Thx Klaatu. Good read
Combine and/or Pro Days are going to be critical in final ranking  
Bob in Newburgh : 1/14/2020 9:49 pm : link
If any of these guys demonstrate obvious LT movement skills to go along with requisite size/strength, they will start to distance themselves from the pack.

Appears there are starting quality RTs in this draft. Not yet clear there are LTs. The fact that a right-handed QB has impaired vision to the LT side continues to make the distinction between LT/RT skills important.
It seems as though Iowa  
Bill in UT : 1/15/2020 12:06 am : link
OL's have done ok the past few years
We can get a REALLY good player as low as 8  
Reale01 : 1/15/2020 2:05 am : link
Maybe even later once it all shakes out.

A good year to trade down to get a couple more picks. You never know what the offers will be and its not something we usually do. It would be great to have 4 picks in the first two rounds. We could cure a lot of ills.
RE: We can get a REALLY good player as low as 8  
Mike in NY : 1/15/2020 7:42 am : link
In comment 14779760 Reale01 said:
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Maybe even later once it all shakes out.

A good year to trade down to get a couple more picks. You never know what the offers will be and its not something we usually do. It would be great to have 4 picks in the first two rounds. We could cure a lot of ills.


We are not getting an extra 1 and 2 to trade down 4 picks or less. To get an extra 1 you are probably looking at needing to move to 15 or later.
A 2nd  
NikkiMac : 1/15/2020 8:46 am : link
And a 3rd would suffice
I haven't seen enough of Wirfs  
Section331 : 1/15/2020 9:10 am : link
to comment on his pass pro, but he is a monster in the run game. He's got an edge to him that I like, and I think this team could use more of. I have seen some things about him having trouble handling speed outside, but haven't seen enough to give an opinion.
I don't know, I don't see it as much  
barens : 1/15/2020 10:56 am : link
as some you. I like Thomas and Wills better, think they look better on tape, plain and simple. Wirfs looks really inconsistent, one play he looks all world, and the next he whiffs, or gets pushed around. I don't see top 5.
RE: RE: We can get a REALLY good player as low as 8  
Reale01 : 1/15/2020 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14779802 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 14779760 Reale01 said:


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Maybe even later once it all shakes out.

A good year to trade down to get a couple more picks. You never know what the offers will be and its not something we usually do. It would be great to have 4 picks in the first two rounds. We could cure a lot of ills.



We are not getting an extra 1 and 2 to trade down 4 picks or less. To get an extra 1 you are probably looking at needing to move to 15 or later.


I don't disagree, but it will be "market driven". We don't know what the offer would be.
Wirfs plays with power and an edge  
JonC : 1/15/2020 2:44 pm : link
I think he can definitely play RT in the NFL, but not so sure about LT. And, it's still vital to protect the QB blindside especially when they're a fumble machine with virtually no mental clock for pressure.
Jon, iirc, Brandon Scherff was taken 5th  
Big Blue '56 : 1/15/2020 2:53 pm : link
in round 1. If this guy has the goods as an ORT, would you take him at 5?

I recall people thinking Scherff could/would drop to us. We obviously never got the chance.
depending on how the combine/offseason shakes out  
Platos : 1/15/2020 2:54 pm : link
we can be in great position to trade down multiple times and get some great plug and play talent.

let the combine workout warriors get picked first so we can get the un-sexy players who end up helping teams win games not draft report cards from the talking heads.
RE: Jon, iirc, Brandon Scherff was taken 5th  
Big Blue '56 : 1/15/2020 2:54 pm : link
In comment 14780673 Big Blue '56 said:
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in round 1. If this guy has the goods as an ORT, would you take him at 5?

I recall people thinking Scherff could/would drop to us. We obviously never got the chance.


Oops, take him at 4, that is.
BB56  
JonC : 1/15/2020 4:05 pm : link
Still have to see how all the prospects test out and how the board stacks to get a practical feel for it.

Personally, I really like Wirfs as a RT but don't love the concept of picking a RT at #4 overall. If he's BPA, then pick him or try to trade down and obtain value via extra picks.

Right now, I'm hoping the QB needy teams trade up and Young or Okudah slips to us.
'a fumble machine with virtually no mental clock for pressure'  
Torrag : 1/15/2020 4:11 pm : link
Man this place has no patience.

The numbers are what they are regarding Jones fumbling. Maybe, just maybe, we can include some context though? Piece of crap O-Line that never established a running game, gave up pressure consistently and finished as the third worst in QB hits yielded. For a rookie QB.
He is what he is, at the moment  
JonC : 1/15/2020 4:14 pm : link
I'm aware of the context.
'I'm aware of the context.'  
Torrag : 1/15/2020 4:16 pm : link
Yet you omitted it. Just sayin.
"The numbers are what they are regarding Jones fumbling."  
JonC : 1/15/2020 4:28 pm : link
He is what he is at the moment.
'He is what he is at the moment.'  
Torrag : 1/15/2020 4:31 pm : link
You've said that twice now. All I'm suggesting is you felt the need to criticize more than just his ball protection but his mental clock and feel for pressure in a conversation about Wirfs and the OT's. Seems fair to include some context and contributing factors. So I supplied a few.

Wirfs  
Archer : 1/15/2020 5:37 pm : link
I do not like OL who do not play with their hands on the ground
Wirfs is the only top OL who comes from a pro style offense

The transition to a three point stance is more difficult than you can imagine

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