Ha- I guess I do know that song. Speaking of gongs...I once sailed on a boat in the Meditteranean Sea with Chuck Baris. My uncle lived in England and France for awhile in the 80's and we were there to visit. Baris was walking around on the boat wearing a silk black Raiders jacket. I was 10 and had absolutely no idea who he was. My parents told me he was some big deal.
....should be in before Depeche Mode. Maybe because Depeche Mode has been active longer? They are way less influential than The Smiths or New Order though.
RE: As far as 80s new wave bands, I think The Smiths or New Order Â
....should be in before Depeche Mode. Maybe because Depeche Mode has been active longer? They are way less influential than The Smiths or New Order though.
Marc Bolan band. Pretty much kicked off glam rock genre. You’ve heard some of their tunes I am sure without knowing it was them.
Marc Bolan died young, in a pretty bizarre and not the usual way for a rock star. Supposedly he feared dying in a car crash so he never got his drivers license.
One night coming home from a pub (or party), his girlfriend drove into a tree and he was killed in the passenger seat.
Bang a Gong was his biggest hit, but he had some other good songs and of course he was a pretty big influence on a lot of artists.
tune in to the Eddie Trunk show later today and listen to him explode on air. It should be entertaining:).
At this point, bands like Iron Maiden and (especially) Judas Priest constantly being passed over for some of these inductees is just a joke. Like Greg said in a post earlier, they should just rename it the Popular Music Hall of Fame.
the rest are blah, although Whitney should be in something (just not the rock and roll HOF). As others have pointed out, there are many better bands out there
the rest are blah, although Whitney should be in something (just not the rock and roll HOF). As others have pointed out, there are many better bands out there
Happy to see the Doobie Brothers get in. For me, they are one of those bands whose music I basically grew up on, but havent really gone back and listened to again for years (and years). Just a ton of radio hits throughout the 70's. Another band in that same category for me is Jethro Tull. I used to really like them in my pre-teen/teen years, pretty damn popular band back then, but again, havent pulled out a Tull album/cd/whatever in a long time.
It is the rock and Roll hall of fame. Their style of music can't get in ... they need to be more like Biggie Smalls and Whitney to be eligible.
Umm so how do you explain Deep Purple (finally), Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Nirvana (to an extent), AC/DC, Aerosmith, Van Halen, Metallica, and Def Leppard amongst others who's style was not much different.
It is nothing but a bullshit snub like Deep Purple was by a bunch of beat writers who have no clue. Whitney fucking Houston? Ugh.
For all those that are upset about Whitney Houston Â
Whitney Houston was an R&B/Pop artist however. R&B contributed to the creation of Rock & Roll. Rock & Roll has also undergone several meanings over the years. She belongs in the Hall of Fame. 200 million records sold worldwide. Tons of number one and top 10 hits. 7 Grammy awards and countless other accolades. I am no fan of her, but if she isn't in no one can be in.
From Wikipedia...
The term "rhythm and blues" has undergone a number of shifts in meaning. In the early 1950s, it was frequently applied to blues records.[4] Starting in the mid-1950s, after this style of music contributed to the development of rock and roll, the term "R&B" became used to refer to music styles that developed from and incorporated electric blues, as well as gospel and soul music.
It is the rock and Roll hall of fame. Their style of music can't get in ... they need to be more like Biggie Smalls and Whitney to be eligible.
Umm so how do you explain Deep Purple (finally), Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Nirvana (to an extent), AC/DC, Aerosmith, Van Halen, Metallica, and Def Leppard amongst others who's style was not much different.
It is nothing but a bullshit snub like Deep Purple was by a bunch of beat writers who have no clue. Whitney fucking Houston? Ugh.
I was joking... as they are heavy metal which is more a version of rock and roll than rap.
RE: I was at the SB when Whitney sung the national Â
anthem. That event alone makes her worthy of the hall, IMO.
Lip-synced.
Lol - yes but it was her own singing! They did it that way due to the stadium conditions, broadcasting mix, and other challenging technical considerations. Her vocal was simply and indisputably the best rendition of The Anthem that anyone has ever done.
Yet, Todd Rungren and Carole King are not in the R&R HoF! Â
a very underrated band. Bolan and Bowie really kicked off the glam rock thing, but T-Rex was a damn good band. Bang a Gong, Jeepster were great tracks.
RE: RE: RE: I was at the SB when Whitney sung the national Â
Lol - yes but it was her own singing! They did it that way due to the stadium conditions, broadcasting mix, and other challenging technical considerations. Her vocal was simply and indisputably the best rendition of The Anthem that anyone has ever done.
It was fantastic, but "indisputably the best"? Come on, it's been performed millions of times, no version is "indisputable". Besides, I'll take Marvin Gaye's (actually live) version at the NBA ASG.
RE: For all those that are upset about Whitney Houston Â
Whitney Houston was an R&B/Pop artist however. R&B contributed to the creation of Rock & Roll. Rock & Roll has also undergone several meanings over the years. She belongs in the Hall of Fame. 200 million records sold worldwide. Tons of number one and top 10 hits. 7 Grammy awards and countless other accolades. I am no fan of her, but if she isn't in no one can be in.
From Wikipedia...
The term "rhythm and blues" has undergone a number of shifts in meaning. In the early 1950s, it was frequently applied to blues records.[4] Starting in the mid-1950s, after this style of music contributed to the development of rock and roll, the term "R&B" became used to refer to music styles that developed from and incorporated electric blues, as well as gospel and soul music.
The criteria for RnR HOF has been highly suspect for a long time. Considering that, Whitney belongs. She's one of the great vocal interpreters of all-time, and the Hall has been generalized towards Pop for many years.
But this assertion of yours is downright silly. Sorry, Whitney doesn't get credit for influencing RnR artists who existed decades years before her birth. Sure, she can get in, but don't justify it through this convoluted genre-based argument.
Depeche Mode doesn't get a ton of respect because they are an electric alternative band but their musicanship is very good. Lots of hits.
Nine Inch Nails is outstanding. Love them. Trent not only kills it with them but his work on soundtracks and in music industry he deserves it.
The Doobie Brothers were a staple in the 70's on the radio.
I'm not a Whitney Houston fan but she was very talented. Great vocalist. Surprised it took this long.
Notorious BIG. I'm no rap expert and personally like a lot of other rap artists much better but even if that is the case he is still top 10 which makes him worthy. There is no doubt though he influenced a ton of musicians which many times is all it takes to get in.
T-Rex. Yeah, other than Bang a Gong can't say I know much from them or that they influenced music too much.
was not big on American radio but Marc's music was huge in England and a big influence on everything Glam as well as a great deal of the early Punk. Really, really influential and awesomely fun music as well.
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[quote] In comment 14780349 BigBlue2007 said:
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Whitney Houston was an R&B/Pop artist however. R&B contributed to the creation of Rock & Roll. Rock & Roll has also undergone several meanings over the years. She belongs in the Hall of Fame. 200 million records sold worldwide. Tons of number one and top 10 hits. 7 Grammy awards and countless other accolades. I am no fan of her, but if she isn't in no one can be in.
From Wikipedia...
The term "rhythm and blues" has undergone a number of shifts in meaning. In the early 1950s, it was frequently applied to blues records.[4] Starting in the mid-1950s, after this style of music contributed to the development of rock and roll, the term "R&B" became used to refer to music styles that developed from and incorporated electric blues, as well as gospel and soul music.
The criteria for RnR HOF has been highly suspect for a long time. Considering that, Whitney belongs. She's one of the great vocal interpreters of all-time, and the Hall has been generalized towards Pop for many years.
But this assertion of yours is downright silly. Sorry, Whitney doesn't get credit for influencing RnR artists who existed decades years before her birth. Sure, she can get in, but don't justify it through this convoluted genre-based argument. [/
That’s not what I meant to imply she gets credit for for RnR artist. I’m just saying rock and roll was created by black artist. Now when black artist get selected you always hear arguments that they don’t belong. I find that complete garbage. They do belong.
tune in to the Eddie Trunk show later today and listen to him explode on air. It should be entertaining:).
At this point, bands like Iron Maiden and (especially) Judas Priest constantly being passed over for some of these inductees is just a joke. Like Greg said in a post earlier, they should just rename it the Popular Music Hall of Fame.
Many of the same idiots that vote for this vote for the Grammy's. I will never forget Jethro Tull winning best Hard Rock/Metal category over Metallica.
The Doobie Brothers are finally getting in. Long overdue. Tons of great hits back in the day.
What's great about the Doobies is the second wind they got with Michael McDonald and Skunk Baxter joining in 75'. Steely Dan breaks up while touring and these 2 came over to the Doobies at a PERFECT time, Tom Johnston stepping out due to an ulcer, McDonald completely reinvented the band, turning a straightforward rock band into a unique Pop band, still true to their rock roots but now with a cool jazz flavor, McDonald becoming a driving force as their new face and Baxter absolutely SCORCHING as their new lead guitarist. (Don't Stop to Watch the Wheels)
Takin' it to the Streets is still as powerful and relevant as the day it was written, they won a Grammy for song of the year with 'What a Fool Believes' - what an odd composition that one it, with it falsetto harmonies and funky backbeat - some really amazing stuff came out of that version of the band and I always appreciated that though the Doobies went through a LOT of people over the years, there never seemed to be any negativity. Happily stoned, they rolled through the decades, a phenomenal live act with a catalog heavy with some of the greatest cuts in Rock history.
The Doobie Brothers are finally getting in. Long overdue. Tons of great hits back in the day.
What's great about the Doobies is the second wind they got with Michael McDonald and Skunk Baxter joining in 75'. Steely Dan breaks up while touring and these 2 came over to the Doobies at a PERFECT time, Tom Johnston stepping out due to an ulcer, McDonald completely reinvented the band, turning a straightforward rock band into a unique Pop band, still true to their rock roots but now with a cool jazz flavor, McDonald becoming a driving force as their new face and Baxter absolutely SCORCHING as their new lead guitarist. (Don't Stop to Watch the Wheels)
Takin' it to the Streets is still as powerful and relevant as the day it was written, they won a Grammy for song of the year with 'What a Fool Believes' - what an odd composition that one it, with it falsetto harmonies and funky backbeat - some really amazing stuff came out of that version of the band and I always appreciated that though the Doobies went through a LOT of people over the years, there never seemed to be any negativity. Happily stoned, they rolled through the decades, a phenomenal live act with a catalog heavy with some of the greatest cuts in Rock history.
Bang a gong.
Marc Bolan band. Pretty much kicked off glam rock genre. You’ve heard some of their tunes I am sure without knowing it was them.
It’s actually a great place. Took the kids there this past summer and we spent all day. So much cool stuff there.
The artists they choose? Eh.
Trent Reznor is probably my favorite still standing musician.
He and Atticus Ross are killing the movie soundtrack scene
Rock is dead and kids these days think its old people music.
Trent Reznor is probably my favorite still standing musician.
He and Atticus Ross are killing the movie soundtrack scene
And TV. Watchmen has a great score.
Ha- I guess I do know that song. Speaking of gongs...I once sailed on a boat in the Meditteranean Sea with Chuck Baris. My uncle lived in England and France for awhile in the 80's and we were there to visit. Baris was walking around on the boat wearing a silk black Raiders jacket. I was 10 and had absolutely no idea who he was. My parents told me he was some big deal.
I thought the Smiths were in already?
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what T-Rex is. T-Pain? Got that.
Marc Bolan band. Pretty much kicked off glam rock genre. You’ve heard some of their tunes I am sure without knowing it was them.
Marc Bolan died young, in a pretty bizarre and not the usual way for a rock star. Supposedly he feared dying in a car crash so he never got his drivers license.
One night coming home from a pub (or party), his girlfriend drove into a tree and he was killed in the passenger seat.
Bang a Gong was his biggest hit, but he had some other good songs and of course he was a pretty big influence on a lot of artists.
When you are inducting the likes of Biggie and Whitney Houston, it really isn't rock and roll.
At this point, bands like Iron Maiden and (especially) Judas Priest constantly being passed over for some of these inductees is just a joke. Like Greg said in a post earlier, they should just rename it the Popular Music Hall of Fame.
It is the rock and Roll hall of fame. Their style of music can't get in ... they need to be more like Biggie Smalls and Whitney to be eligible.
Happy to see the Doobie Brothers get in. For me, they are one of those bands whose music I basically grew up on, but havent really gone back and listened to again for years (and years). Just a ton of radio hits throughout the 70's. Another band in that same category for me is Jethro Tull. I used to really like them in my pre-teen/teen years, pretty damn popular band back then, but again, havent pulled out a Tull album/cd/whatever in a long time.
Seriously? Check them out...and Marc Bolan's solo stuff.
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Judas Priest or Iron Maiden !!! What a joke !!!!
It is the rock and Roll hall of fame. Their style of music can't get in ... they need to be more like Biggie Smalls and Whitney to be eligible.
Umm so how do you explain Deep Purple (finally), Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Nirvana (to an extent), AC/DC, Aerosmith, Van Halen, Metallica, and Def Leppard amongst others who's style was not much different.
It is nothing but a bullshit snub like Deep Purple was by a bunch of beat writers who have no clue. Whitney fucking Houston? Ugh.
From Wikipedia...
The term "rhythm and blues" has undergone a number of shifts in meaning. In the early 1950s, it was frequently applied to blues records.[4] Starting in the mid-1950s, after this style of music contributed to the development of rock and roll, the term "R&B" became used to refer to music styles that developed from and incorporated electric blues, as well as gospel and soul music.
First heard them on Chum from Toronto when I was in college in Buffalo.
God I am old but smile at the great times back then!
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In comment 14779976 BIG FRED 1973 said:
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Judas Priest or Iron Maiden !!! What a joke !!!!
It is the rock and Roll hall of fame. Their style of music can't get in ... they need to be more like Biggie Smalls and Whitney to be eligible.
Umm so how do you explain Deep Purple (finally), Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Nirvana (to an extent), AC/DC, Aerosmith, Van Halen, Metallica, and Def Leppard amongst others who's style was not much different.
It is nothing but a bullshit snub like Deep Purple was by a bunch of beat writers who have no clue. Whitney fucking Houston? Ugh.
I was joking... as they are heavy metal which is more a version of rock and roll than rap.
Lip-synced.
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anthem. That event alone makes her worthy of the hall, IMO.
Lip-synced.
Lol - yes but it was her own singing! They did it that way due to the stadium conditions, broadcasting mix, and other challenging technical considerations. Her vocal was simply and indisputably the best rendition of The Anthem that anyone has ever done.
Come on with Notorious B.I.G. He was very good, but not Hall of Fame worthy
Lol - yes but it was her own singing! They did it that way due to the stadium conditions, broadcasting mix, and other challenging technical considerations. Her vocal was simply and indisputably the best rendition of The Anthem that anyone has ever done.
It was fantastic, but "indisputably the best"? Come on, it's been performed millions of times, no version is "indisputable". Besides, I'll take Marvin Gaye's (actually live) version at the NBA ASG.
From Wikipedia...
The term "rhythm and blues" has undergone a number of shifts in meaning. In the early 1950s, it was frequently applied to blues records.[4] Starting in the mid-1950s, after this style of music contributed to the development of rock and roll, the term "R&B" became used to refer to music styles that developed from and incorporated electric blues, as well as gospel and soul music.
The criteria for RnR HOF has been highly suspect for a long time. Considering that, Whitney belongs. She's one of the great vocal interpreters of all-time, and the Hall has been generalized towards Pop for many years.
But this assertion of yours is downright silly. Sorry, Whitney doesn't get credit for influencing RnR artists who existed decades years before her birth. Sure, she can get in, but don't justify it through this convoluted genre-based argument.
catalog was a bit light in my view, beyond a few really good albums.
Nine Inch Nails is outstanding. Love them. Trent not only kills it with them but his work on soundtracks and in music industry he deserves it.
The Doobie Brothers were a staple in the 70's on the radio.
I'm not a Whitney Houston fan but she was very talented. Great vocalist. Surprised it took this long.
Notorious BIG. I'm no rap expert and personally like a lot of other rap artists much better but even if that is the case he is still top 10 which makes him worthy. There is no doubt though he influenced a ton of musicians which many times is all it takes to get in.
T-Rex. Yeah, other than Bang a Gong can't say I know much from them or that they influenced music too much.
What does this mean? Who is in the audience?
I grew up hearing Michael McDonalds voice...as a session vocalist or with The Doobies...
Which Doobie you be?
That's a good first concert!
"Poppa been smooth since days of Underroos"
[quote] In comment 14780349 BigBlue2007 said:
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Whitney Houston was an R&B/Pop artist however. R&B contributed to the creation of Rock & Roll. Rock & Roll has also undergone several meanings over the years. She belongs in the Hall of Fame. 200 million records sold worldwide. Tons of number one and top 10 hits. 7 Grammy awards and countless other accolades. I am no fan of her, but if she isn't in no one can be in.
From Wikipedia...
The term "rhythm and blues" has undergone a number of shifts in meaning. In the early 1950s, it was frequently applied to blues records.[4] Starting in the mid-1950s, after this style of music contributed to the development of rock and roll, the term "R&B" became used to refer to music styles that developed from and incorporated electric blues, as well as gospel and soul music.
The criteria for RnR HOF has been highly suspect for a long time. Considering that, Whitney belongs. She's one of the great vocal interpreters of all-time, and the Hall has been generalized towards Pop for many years.
But this assertion of yours is downright silly. Sorry, Whitney doesn't get credit for influencing RnR artists who existed decades years before her birth. Sure, she can get in, but don't justify it through this convoluted genre-based argument. [/
That’s not what I meant to imply she gets credit for for RnR artist. I’m just saying rock and roll was created by black artist. Now when black artist get selected you always hear arguments that they don’t belong. I find that complete garbage. They do belong.
Their first few records were synth pop, but from Black Celebration on are a way more rock focused band.
Songs of Faith and Devotion, Violator, Ultra are not only hugely successful but incredibly influential.
When Trent Reznor accepts, he will say Depeche Mode is the reason he started writing music.
Anyone who doesn't see their place in the history of rock music is paying no attention.
and the list goes on.
At this point, bands like Iron Maiden and (especially) Judas Priest constantly being passed over for some of these inductees is just a joke. Like Greg said in a post earlier, they should just rename it the Popular Music Hall of Fame.
Many of the same idiots that vote for this vote for the Grammy's. I will never forget Jethro Tull winning best Hard Rock/Metal category over Metallica.
The Smiths
New Order/Joy Division
The Replacements
Sonic Youth
The Monkees
Takin' it to the Streets is still as powerful and relevant as the day it was written, they won a Grammy for song of the year with 'What a Fool Believes' - what an odd composition that one it, with it falsetto harmonies and funky backbeat - some really amazing stuff came out of that version of the band and I always appreciated that though the Doobies went through a LOT of people over the years, there never seemed to be any negativity. Happily stoned, they rolled through the decades, a phenomenal live act with a catalog heavy with some of the greatest cuts in Rock history.
Glad to see them get in.
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The Doobie Brothers are finally getting in. Long overdue. Tons of great hits back in the day.
What's great about the Doobies is the second wind they got with Michael McDonald and Skunk Baxter joining in 75'. Steely Dan breaks up while touring and these 2 came over to the Doobies at a PERFECT time, Tom Johnston stepping out due to an ulcer, McDonald completely reinvented the band, turning a straightforward rock band into a unique Pop band, still true to their rock roots but now with a cool jazz flavor, McDonald becoming a driving force as their new face and Baxter absolutely SCORCHING as their new lead guitarist. (Don't Stop to Watch the Wheels)
Takin' it to the Streets is still as powerful and relevant as the day it was written, they won a Grammy for song of the year with 'What a Fool Believes' - what an odd composition that one it, with it falsetto harmonies and funky backbeat - some really amazing stuff came out of that version of the band and I always appreciated that though the Doobies went through a LOT of people over the years, there never seemed to be any negativity. Happily stoned, they rolled through the decades, a phenomenal live act with a catalog heavy with some of the greatest cuts in Rock history.
Glad to see them get in.
McDoobies=best Doobies
Hell yes. That Pat Benatar not being in a joke. But not as big a joke as Whitney Houston going in.