In comment 14781045 BigBluesman said:
[quote] In comment 14780349 BigBlue2007 said:
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Whitney Houston was an R&B/Pop artist however. R&B contributed to the creation of Rock & Roll. Rock & Roll has also undergone several meanings over the years. She belongs in the Hall of Fame. 200 million records sold worldwide. Tons of number one and top 10 hits. 7 Grammy awards and countless other accolades. I am no fan of her, but if she isn't in no one can be in.
From Wikipedia...
The term "rhythm and blues" has undergone a number of shifts in meaning. In the early 1950s, it was frequently applied to blues records.[4] Starting in the mid-1950s, after this style of music contributed to the development of rock and roll, the term "R&B" became used to refer to music styles that developed from and incorporated electric blues, as well as gospel and soul music.
The criteria for RnR HOF has been highly suspect for a long time. Considering that, Whitney belongs. She's one of the great vocal interpreters of all-time, and the Hall has been generalized towards Pop for many years.
But this assertion of yours is downright silly. Sorry, Whitney doesn't get credit for influencing RnR artists who existed decades years before her birth. Sure, she can get in, but don't justify it through this convoluted genre-based argument. [/
That’s not what I meant to imply she gets credit for for RnR artist. I’m just saying rock and roll was created by black artist. Now when black artist get selected you always hear arguments that they don’t belong. I find that complete garbage. They do belong.
tune in to the Eddie Trunk show later today and listen to him explode on air. It should be entertaining:).
At this point, bands like Iron Maiden and (especially) Judas Priest constantly being passed over for some of these inductees is just a joke. Like Greg said in a post earlier, they should just rename it the Popular Music Hall of Fame.
Many of the same idiots that vote for this vote for the Grammy's. I will never forget Jethro Tull winning best Hard Rock/Metal category over Metallica.
The Doobie Brothers are finally getting in. Long overdue. Tons of great hits back in the day.
What's great about the Doobies is the second wind they got with Michael McDonald and Skunk Baxter joining in 75'. Steely Dan breaks up while touring and these 2 came over to the Doobies at a PERFECT time, Tom Johnston stepping out due to an ulcer, McDonald completely reinvented the band, turning a straightforward rock band into a unique Pop band, still true to their rock roots but now with a cool jazz flavor, McDonald becoming a driving force as their new face and Baxter absolutely SCORCHING as their new lead guitarist. (Don't Stop to Watch the Wheels)
Takin' it to the Streets is still as powerful and relevant as the day it was written, they won a Grammy for song of the year with 'What a Fool Believes' - what an odd composition that one it, with it falsetto harmonies and funky backbeat - some really amazing stuff came out of that version of the band and I always appreciated that though the Doobies went through a LOT of people over the years, there never seemed to be any negativity. Happily stoned, they rolled through the decades, a phenomenal live act with a catalog heavy with some of the greatest cuts in Rock history.
The Doobie Brothers are finally getting in. Long overdue. Tons of great hits back in the day.
What's great about the Doobies is the second wind they got with Michael McDonald and Skunk Baxter joining in 75'. Steely Dan breaks up while touring and these 2 came over to the Doobies at a PERFECT time, Tom Johnston stepping out due to an ulcer, McDonald completely reinvented the band, turning a straightforward rock band into a unique Pop band, still true to their rock roots but now with a cool jazz flavor, McDonald becoming a driving force as their new face and Baxter absolutely SCORCHING as their new lead guitarist. (Don't Stop to Watch the Wheels)
Takin' it to the Streets is still as powerful and relevant as the day it was written, they won a Grammy for song of the year with 'What a Fool Believes' - what an odd composition that one it, with it falsetto harmonies and funky backbeat - some really amazing stuff came out of that version of the band and I always appreciated that though the Doobies went through a LOT of people over the years, there never seemed to be any negativity. Happily stoned, they rolled through the decades, a phenomenal live act with a catalog heavy with some of the greatest cuts in Rock history.
Which Doobie you be?
That's a good first concert!
"Poppa been smooth since days of Underroos"
[quote] In comment 14780349 BigBlue2007 said:
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Whitney Houston was an R&B/Pop artist however. R&B contributed to the creation of Rock & Roll. Rock & Roll has also undergone several meanings over the years. She belongs in the Hall of Fame. 200 million records sold worldwide. Tons of number one and top 10 hits. 7 Grammy awards and countless other accolades. I am no fan of her, but if she isn't in no one can be in.
From Wikipedia...
The term "rhythm and blues" has undergone a number of shifts in meaning. In the early 1950s, it was frequently applied to blues records.[4] Starting in the mid-1950s, after this style of music contributed to the development of rock and roll, the term "R&B" became used to refer to music styles that developed from and incorporated electric blues, as well as gospel and soul music.
The criteria for RnR HOF has been highly suspect for a long time. Considering that, Whitney belongs. She's one of the great vocal interpreters of all-time, and the Hall has been generalized towards Pop for many years.
But this assertion of yours is downright silly. Sorry, Whitney doesn't get credit for influencing RnR artists who existed decades years before her birth. Sure, she can get in, but don't justify it through this convoluted genre-based argument. [/
That’s not what I meant to imply she gets credit for for RnR artist. I’m just saying rock and roll was created by black artist. Now when black artist get selected you always hear arguments that they don’t belong. I find that complete garbage. They do belong.
Their first few records were synth pop, but from Black Celebration on are a way more rock focused band.
Songs of Faith and Devotion, Violator, Ultra are not only hugely successful but incredibly influential.
When Trent Reznor accepts, he will say Depeche Mode is the reason he started writing music.
Anyone who doesn't see their place in the history of rock music is paying no attention.
and the list goes on.
At this point, bands like Iron Maiden and (especially) Judas Priest constantly being passed over for some of these inductees is just a joke. Like Greg said in a post earlier, they should just rename it the Popular Music Hall of Fame.
Many of the same idiots that vote for this vote for the Grammy's. I will never forget Jethro Tull winning best Hard Rock/Metal category over Metallica.
The Smiths
New Order/Joy Division
The Replacements
Sonic Youth
The Monkees
Takin' it to the Streets is still as powerful and relevant as the day it was written, they won a Grammy for song of the year with 'What a Fool Believes' - what an odd composition that one it, with it falsetto harmonies and funky backbeat - some really amazing stuff came out of that version of the band and I always appreciated that though the Doobies went through a LOT of people over the years, there never seemed to be any negativity. Happily stoned, they rolled through the decades, a phenomenal live act with a catalog heavy with some of the greatest cuts in Rock history.
Glad to see them get in.
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The Doobie Brothers are finally getting in. Long overdue. Tons of great hits back in the day.
What's great about the Doobies is the second wind they got with Michael McDonald and Skunk Baxter joining in 75'. Steely Dan breaks up while touring and these 2 came over to the Doobies at a PERFECT time, Tom Johnston stepping out due to an ulcer, McDonald completely reinvented the band, turning a straightforward rock band into a unique Pop band, still true to their rock roots but now with a cool jazz flavor, McDonald becoming a driving force as their new face and Baxter absolutely SCORCHING as their new lead guitarist. (Don't Stop to Watch the Wheels)
Takin' it to the Streets is still as powerful and relevant as the day it was written, they won a Grammy for song of the year with 'What a Fool Believes' - what an odd composition that one it, with it falsetto harmonies and funky backbeat - some really amazing stuff came out of that version of the band and I always appreciated that though the Doobies went through a LOT of people over the years, there never seemed to be any negativity. Happily stoned, they rolled through the decades, a phenomenal live act with a catalog heavy with some of the greatest cuts in Rock history.
Glad to see them get in.
McDoobies=best Doobies
Hell yes. That Pat Benatar not being in a joke. But not as big a joke as Whitney Houston going in.