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Dak Prescott over Daniel Jones?

I Love Clams Casino : 1/15/2020 9:30 am

Bantering with an Eagles fan yesterday. Now I hate Philly and their fans, but he's actually a nice kid and has a decent football IQ. He's not one of those clueless mouth breathers. We discuss football often, and I generally agree with him. Obviously he views things through his green colored glasses, (he predicted Carson Wentz would win MVP this year), but he owns it when he's wrong about his team.

He emphatically stated that he would take Dak Prescott (even at this point in time)over Daniel Jones and said he doesn't even have to think about it. Of course, I told him he's crazy and "no way"

Afterwards, I had to think about this one. Remove your bias for a second and be completely neutral....does he have a point?

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Watch all the Cowboy games

joe48 : 1/15/2020 3:42 pm : link

Right now, Dak is better because of OL and players around him.He has vey good stats but they are deceiving. Dallas did not win one game when behind at halftime. 1-5 record against teams with winning records. Dak cannot beat the better defenses. Plays hard and is tough. Good leader. He is not accurate . Reverts back to old habits when pressured. Poor footwork. Does not throw guys open well. Can make plays outside the pocket. Above average but cannot elevate the team. Good 4th round value but not worth $30-35M.

Ask non-Giants fans

uther99 : 1/15/2020 3:45 pm : link

and Jones in known as a habitual fumbler. A fact many of us ignore or explain away

I'd take Dak at this point

RE: Ask non-Giants fans

FatMan in Charlotte : 1/15/2020 3:52 pm : link

In comment 14780759 uther99 said:

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and Jones in known as a habitual fumbler. A fact many of us ignore or explain away

I'd take Dak at this point

so non-Ravens fans looked at Jackson as a habitual fumbler too??

salary adjusted

hitdog42 : 1/15/2020 4:00 pm : link

for what dak will likely get, you take jones right now.

RE: RE: Ask non-Giants fans

uther99 : 1/15/2020 5:13 pm : link

In comment 14780773 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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In comment 14780759 uther99 said:

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and Jones in known as a habitual fumbler. A fact many of us ignore or explain away

I'd take Dak at this point

so non-Ravens fans looked at Jackson as a habitual fumbler too??

How many fumbles did Jackson have?

The..

FatMan in Charlotte : 1/15/2020 5:31 pm : link

same number as Jones

RE: The..

uther99 : 1/15/2020 5:39 pm : link

In comment 14780884 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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same number as Jones

I see Jones had 18 and Jackson 9.

Go Terps : 1/15/2020 5:41 pm : link

2018 Jackson - 12 fumbles, 4 fumbles lost
2019 Jones - 18 fumbles, 11 fumbles lost

2018 Lamar Jackson Football Reference Game Log

2019 Daniel Jones Football Reference Game Log

I suppose it's possible I'm reading these pages incorrectly. If I am, please let me know.

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uther99 : 1/15/2020 5:45 pm : link

In comment 14780903 Go Terps said:

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I was looking at 2019 for both. Anyway 12 does not equal 18

It certainly doesn't

Go Terps : 1/15/2020 5:47 pm : link

But the effort to pass it off isn't surprising.

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FatMan in Charlotte : 1/15/2020 5:51 pm : link

In comment 14780903 Go Terps said:

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I was wrong. I was referencing an article that talked about them having the same number of fumbles while as a passer. That's misleading. Looking further, they also tallied the total number of fumbles as 15 for Jackson and 18 for Jones, but they counted the playoff game

RE: It certainly doesn't

FatMan in Charlotte : 1/15/2020 5:52 pm : link

In comment 14780915 Go Terps said:

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But the effort to pass it off isn't surprising.

You were right. I should have just made up something like Jones was better in every meaningful category...

It's way too early

jcn56 : 1/15/2020 5:54 pm : link

I think Prescott has done better than people are giving him credit for, but at the same time I'm not sure I'd want to be the one to hand him a $30M+ contract.

Jones has a big incomplete hanging on him right now. At the end of this year you'll have a much better picture of what Jones is and isn't. He has a lot of potential, but he has to cut down on the turnovers if he's going to move forward as a viable long term quarterback.

The amount of fumbles for LJ and DJ

Big Blue '56 : 1/15/2020 5:58 pm : link

are immaterial as to the differential between the two. The bottom line is that both have/had fumbling issues with varying reasons. LJ appears to have cleaned his problem up as of now. DJ must clean up his.

RE: Pretty sad...

Jimmy Googs : 1/15/2020 6:02 pm : link

In comment 14780560 GMen72 said:

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that most on here can't pick the better QB (even potential) between the #6 player in the draft and a 4th rounder.

huh?

RE: Dak

Jimmy Googs : 1/15/2020 6:03 pm : link

In comment 14780311 Amtoft said:

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just had a pretty big year. People like to rip Dak, but he is a good QB and played well this year. Saying that I will take DJ on his rookie contract than pay Dak next year at his salary.

yep

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