but I think he’d be good for DJ. The only problem is that he’ll probably receive a HC call next season, leaving DJ with 3 OCs in 3 years
That is called a good problem, because that means the Giants' offense was successful, as he is not getting a HC offer unless his offense works. Second, I doubt he will emerge as a candidate that quickly. It is not as if he won SBs (see McCarthy). He will have to work his way back up, and one year will not be enough.
He is a good offensive coach and i think he would be great for DJ and his development.
He also provides some veteran leadership on offense and to JJ if he needs.
He also knows a division rival inside and out, that cant hurt.
Im totally fine with this type of hiring as the pother guys they have brought in are JJs guys and this hire will truly allow for a strong leader on the offensive side
I guess he wasn't deterred by Graham getting the Assistant HC title Â
He is not a bad play caller at all and uses the TE and run game. It would really help Barkley and Jones in their development. Plus he is a hard worker and great teacher.
I’d like that. Maybe he can get our TEs more productive and our OL Â
you have to think he rather land somewhere instead of sitting the year out. if he comes in and giants offense is good, he will be considered for another head coaching position in 2021 or maybe the year after. if he sits out, who knows. at this point, i dont think he cares about the extra title....he wants to stay in the game
This must means... Garrett will accept the OC position Â
And he wasn't the worst HC in the history of the world either. I don't mind it at all and think him combined with the QB coach they just hired can really be a great thing for Jones.
RE: I guess he wasn't deterred by Graham getting the Assistant HC title Â
In that if Garrett does well I have no doubt someone will give him a 2nd chance as a HC and then I would tend to think the new QB coach the Giants hired likely slides right in as the OC replacement. So that all seems to be built in too and makes sense.
In that if Garrett does well I have no doubt someone will give him a 2nd chance as a HC and then I would tend to think the new QB coach the Giants hired likely slides right in as the OC replacement. So that all seems to be built in too and makes sense.
he does not have a strong enough voice in the room to be the HC. He also though was handcuffed in Dallas with Jerry. It is always what Jerry says and you have to work around it. Also that Dallas roster is not as talented as it is made out to be. They are the Cowboys and it doesn't matter if they haven't won crap in 24 years they will always be hyped up by the media.
without ownership or the front office interfering.
And you see evidence of the front office interfering where?
There is no evidence of it, and Judge has hired other assistants with whom he has relationships. But this sees like something that ownership will be really behind, if not advocating. I can't speak to whether ownership is advocating this.
Garrett was my second choice for OC, so it's hard not to be happy about this. As a a HC, he is not good. As an OC, he could be very good.
without ownership or the front office interfering.
And you see evidence of the front office interfering where?
It's a fact that they have determined assistant coaches before. They did it for Coughlin and McAdoo, may have done it for Shurmur. One can have a justified concern without evidence.
The guy has like 10 years of HC experience with an 85-67 record (perfect considering Judge has zero HC/coordinator experience), and go back and look at Romo and Dak's stats season in and season out. An undrafted guy and a 4th rounder and both QBs were/have been incredibly prolific. Even if the QBs came up short in big moments, you can't say he didn't get the most he could out of those guys based on their talent and draft position.
If he gets a HC position in a year or 2 I don't see that as a negative, that will have meant he did a great job and the Giants are competitive again (most likely).
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Doubt it.
If the offense is good enough that Garrett warrants HC consideration, I'll be more than happy letting him move on.
2. Can give player insights on a division rival
3. Ex-QB and OC who has developed young QBs
That is called a good problem, because that means the Giants' offense was successful, as he is not getting a HC offer unless his offense works. Second, I doubt he will emerge as a candidate that quickly. It is not as if he won SBs (see McCarthy). He will have to work his way back up, and one year will not be enough.
He would be a valuable resource for a first time HC.
Bottom line is, as just the offensive coordinator, he is really good.
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but I think he�d be good for DJ. The only problem is that he�ll probably receive a HC call next season, leaving DJ with 3 OCs in 3 years
Doubt it.
I agree with 56. If the O looks good, he will most certainly be a candidate next year.
If they move forward, I think both parties have to agree to 2-3 years before being allowed to interview.
Who cares if he has "giants ties"
He is a good offensive coach and i think he would be great for DJ and his development.
He also provides some veteran leadership on offense and to JJ if he needs.
He also knows a division rival inside and out, that cant hurt.
Im totally fine with this type of hiring as the pother guys they have brought in are JJs guys and this hire will truly allow for a strong leader on the offensive side
you have to think he rather land somewhere instead of sitting the year out. if he comes in and giants offense is good, he will be considered for another head coaching position in 2021 or maybe the year after. if he sits out, who knows. at this point, i dont think he cares about the extra title....he wants to stay in the game
Why would he? That title is meaningless, especially to someone like Garrett.
So you want him to get whoever he wants, except if he wants holdovers from the last regime, except for the ST coach?
My preference is Caldwell, but I would be happy with Garrett.
This would be a awesome ....
Good point, Moe
And you see evidence of the front office interfering where?
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without ownership or the front office interfering.
And you see evidence of the front office interfering where?
Exactly. terps, you have NO IDEA if front office is interferring or not. its pretty simple.
1. front office says, you should check him out JJ, see what you think.
2. he worked for saban, so maybe there is a req coming from NS.
3. maybe JJ just knows he needs a good offensive mind in the building and he feels they could click.
we have ZERO knowledge that the front office is forcing this. they have let him hire whoever he wants up to this point
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without ownership or the front office interfering.
And you see evidence of the front office interfering where?
There is no evidence of it, and Judge has hired other assistants with whom he has relationships. But this sees like something that ownership will be really behind, if not advocating. I can't speak to whether ownership is advocating this.
Garrett was my second choice for OC, so it's hard not to be happy about this. As a a HC, he is not good. As an OC, he could be very good.
If nothing else, I like the idea of having Garrett here to help us finally beat Dallas.... not that Shurmur helped us beat Philly lol
Lol. It was Dunleavey, so it's most likely wrong
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without ownership or the front office interfering.
And you see evidence of the front office interfering where?
It's a fact that they have determined assistant coaches before. They did it for Coughlin and McAdoo, may have done it for Shurmur. One can have a justified concern without evidence.
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without ownership or the front office interfering.
And you see evidence of the front office interfering where?
I don't, and I'm not saying there definitely is.
But it's not a crazy thing to think.
If he gets a HC position in a year or 2 I don't see that as a negative, that will have meant he did a great job and the Giants are competitive again (most likely).
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but I think he’d be good for DJ. The only problem is that he’ll probably receive a HC call next season, leaving DJ with 3 OCs in 3 years
If the offense is good enough that Garrett warrants HC consideration, I'll be more than happy letting him move on.
This.