Jason Garrett meeting with Giants

In comment 14780680 Britt in VA said:

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In comment 14780656 morrison40 said: Quote: we can keep Shula as ASSISTANT TO THE ASSISTANT MANAGER. Look at you: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater. I'm tellin' ya, Rat, if this girl can't smell your qualifications, then who needs her, right?

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he's better in the subordinate role. That's just who he is. He abandons the run at times as a playcaller and that's where Judge can step in and say run the damn ball.

If Judge hires him.

In comment 14780682 an_idol_mind said:

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The folks who think that this is Mara forcing a coach on Judge are taking old conspiracy theories and presenting them as facts, as usual. There's plenty of evidence to suggest that Judge might want to give Garrett a look of his own accord.

Garrett and Judge both worked under Saban so there's that.

Is he gonna shit, or is he gonna kill us?

In comment 14780767 Joey in VA said:

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Is he gonna shit, or is he gonna kill us?

First he's gonna shit.. then he is gonna kills us!

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If Garrett were to except the OC position this would be a major endorsement of Daniel Jones

Garrett must have studied Jones and believe that he can be a very good QB

and when it was a problem it typically was the OLine and the run game. I believe Shula was in charge of the passing scheme which seemed ok to me. the OL needed major help and the play calling was odd more often then you'd like. I think they got rid of those who were resposible for the problem areas already, and though i doubt they hold onto shula it would help with DJ having some 'constant' in the Offense. I am not against Garrett and would like an above average OL coach like Callahan seems to be. I don't know if we get them. Considering we are hiring guys from the Dolphins, I'd like to have someone with a proven track record.

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In comment 14780783 Archer said:

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If Garrett were to except the OC position this would be a major endorsement of Daniel Jones Garrett must have studied Jones and believe that he can be a very good QB

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If he is in the building, he kind of already gave his endorsement to Jones, No?

He didn't come here to waste anyones time.

In comment 14780783 Archer said:

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If Garrett were to except the OC position this would be a major endorsement of Daniel Jones Garrett must have studied Jones and believe that he can be a very good QB

It's amazing the difference in opinion between the media and the league. The media mocked the Jones selection and look for every opportunity to say I told you. While, from people in the league, there has been nothing but praise for Jones.

Totally agree Garrett interests in the Giants OC job in itself is an endorsement of Jones

I find this exciting as Garrett has coached two pretty good QBs

In comment 14780803 JerryNicklebag said:

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In comment 14780783 Archer said: Quote: If Garrett were to except the OC position this would be a major endorsement of Daniel Jones Garrett must have studied Jones and believe that he can be a very good QB Accept

Or it would just be guy who wants to stay in coaching taking the job that was available to him. No idea if he's got other offers out there. If not, his accepting may say nothing about his feelings on Jones.

Judge saying he is "not going to be the OC, the DC, nor the ST coordinator" in his press conference, along with the fact that the Maras stay the hell out of most football decisions, is appealing to Garrett. He's going to have virtually complete autonomy with the offense especially given Judge's lack of experience it would seem. Hell Garrett might have even more control/freedom here than he did in Dallas considering all of Jerry's (and his son's) meddling that Garrett had to put up with over the years.

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Bare in mind 3/4 of the teams have new coaches and offensive philosophies. Granted the main players will be the same but the idea he has some asshat info doe snot amount to much.

But the prospect of him designing the offense doesn't really excite me. All offseason, I heard how Kellen Moore was handed the keys to the offense because they were desperate to breath some fresh air into the system. That Garret's offense was very vanilla, outdated, and stagnant. Very little presnap motion. Very little innovation. Just 1990s power football. Maybe that excites some of you, but I'm hoping to see a more modern approach to things. For example, Saquon is a very different back than Zeke. Hope the offense reflects that.

If you're here, and I'm here, doesn't that make it our time? Certainly there's nothing wrong with a little feast on our time.

In comment 14780833 SCGiantsFan said:

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Bare in mind 3/4 of the teams have new coaches and offensive philosophies. Granted the main players will be the same but the idea he has some asshat info doe snot amount to much.

He'll know the players of Dallas inside and out, and should help against Philly. He's been much more successful against them than us.

still odd to me that folks are pissed we couldn't get Joe Brady, who has never called a game for a NFL team...but absolutely hate the idea of having Jason Garrett as our OC, who has been the coordinator for dominant offenses in the NFL for multiple seasons.

There has to be some type of "meet in the middle" on this.

Garrett is a very good NFL offensive coordinator, is good with QBs, and has HC experience that is invaluable, although most just like to make fun of him because he couldn't win a Super Bowl.

He's just a punch line for cowboys team failures. Hopefully he commits to using Barkley and not going pass happy.

In comment 14780572 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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be a great hire unless the board finds out Mara or Gettleman had anything to do with it - then it will be a terrible hire!! Isn't that the way it goes here? Am I getting warm?

I think you nailed it.

In comment 14780842 ryanmkeane said:

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Jason Garrett as our OC, who has been the coordinator for dominant offenses in the NFL for multiple seasons.

Dominant offenses? What dominant offenses? And he was an OC for, what, two whole years?

was an OC from 2007-2010.

During that time, the Cowboys had a 13 win season, an 11 win season and a 9 win season. They were the #2 offense in 2007, #7 in 2010 and 18th and 14th the other two seasons. Perhaps dominant isn't the right word for 3/4th of the time, but it isn't like he was terrible.

I know giving him credit is like pulling fucking teeth for some of you though.

interviewing and we haven't heard anything so my guess is they let him leave the building. It took them like 5 seconds to hire Grahm,

In comment 14780846 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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He's just a punch line for cowboys team failures. Hopefully he commits to using Barkley and not going pass happy.

Use Barkley like Elliott and I'm good

In comment 14780855 Greg from LI said:

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In comment 14780842 ryanmkeane said: Quote: Jason Garrett as our OC, who has been the coordinator for dominant offenses in the NFL for multiple seasons. Dominant offenses? What dominant offenses? And he was an OC for, what, two whole years?

Four actually.

In comment 14780859 Blue Dream said:

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interviewing and we haven't heard anything so my guess is they let him leave the building. It took them like 5 seconds to hire Grahm,

Or they are working out contract details, just saying.

In comment 14780857 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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was an OC from 2007-2010. During that time, the Cowboys had a 13 win season, an 11 win season and a 9 win season. They were the #2 offense in 2007, #7 in 2010 and 18th and 14th the other two seasons. Perhaps dominant isn't the right word for 3/4th of the time, but it isn't like he was terrible. I know giving him credit is like pulling fucking teeth for some of you though.

Not for me, though. If Judge wants him and they get along sign him up. He has obvious and useful virtues.

In comment 14780864 GFAN52 said:

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In comment 14780859 Blue Dream said: Quote: interviewing and we haven't heard anything so my guess is they let him leave the building. It took them like 5 seconds to hire Grahm, Or they are working out contract details, just saying.

Graham & Judge had worked together for a number of years,made the hiring quicker & easier. I assume JJ & Garrett & in the getting to know you stage!

In comment 14780857 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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was an OC from 2007-2010. During that time, the Cowboys had a 13 win season, an 11 win season and a 9 win season. They were the #2 offense in 2007, #7 in 2010 and 18th and 14th the other two seasons. Perhaps dominant isn't the right word for 3/4th of the time, but it isn't like he was terrible. I know giving him credit is like pulling fucking teeth for some of you though.

Thinking of that 07 team brought back the glorious playoff memory of Eli leading us to a TD in about 47 sec right before the half!

In comment 14780854 Dr. D said:

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In comment 14780572 FatMan in Charlotte said: Quote: be a great hire unless the board finds out Mara or Gettleman had anything to do with it - then it will be a terrible hire!! Isn't that the way it goes here? Am I getting warm? +! I think you nailed it.

fine with Garrett. He'd be a very good OC IMO. I do agree he might leave after one year, but that could happen with many good coordinators. I doubt Mara is doing anything to influence who Judge hires. I'm sure Judge has complete discretion to hire who he wants.

In comment 14780857 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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was an OC from 2007-2010. During that time, the Cowboys had a 13 win season, an 11 win season and a 9 win season. They were the #2 offense in 2007, #7 in 2010 and 18th and 14th the other two seasons. Perhaps dominant isn't the right word for 3/4th of the time, but it isn't like he was terrible.

And to be fair to Garrett, he had less than a full deck in 2008: Terrell Owens having his usual "get me out of here" meltdowns, Romo getting injured, and being forced to play Brad Johnson and Brooks Bollinger at QB.

he knows the division extremely well, and he'd be an established veteran coaching presence that the team could use.

I think some of you need to take a deep fucking breath though - a few posters suggest that it might be problematic if Garrett was forced on Judge, and you get your panties in a twist. It's as if you haven't seen the disjointed mess the Giants have been for most of the last decade.

Given the other coaching hires, I don't think Garrett is Gettleman or Mara's doing, but it's fair to say that if they were involved or pushed the matter in any way it raises some concern. Of course the guy hasn't even been hired yet, so it's all hypothetical to this point.

but every September we complain that we open against DAL. A lot of those years we laughed at certain BBI DAL fans who talked all off-season about how DAL was going to be better than NYG. Year after year we've had opportunities early in the season with a fairly healthy roster to show up DAL, but almost every single year it's the same story.

DAL comes prepared, executes and kicks our teeth in. We look sloppy.

If we have a chance to grab some of that coaching magic that got DAL so much more prepared every year against us each summer than we could manage to be against them, I'm all for it.

Results:
Sept. 2019
DAL 35
NYG 17

Sept. 2018
DAL 20
NYG 13

Sept. 2017
DAL 19
NYG 3

Sept. 2016
DAL 19
NYG 20

Sept. 2015
DAL 27
NYG 26

Oct. 2014
DAL 31
NYG 21

Sept. 2013
DAL 36
NYG 31

Sept. 2012
DAL 24
NYG 17

Won't go any further back because we didn't play in 2012 until so late in the season and my point was that his teams were prepared to kick our butts early on every single year.

A lot of that is on the coaching - how prepared you are to play at the beginning of the season.

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Given the other coaching hires, I don't think Garrett is Gettleman or Mara's doing, but it's fair to say that if they were involved or pushed the matter in any way it raises some concern.

Because of Shurmur and McAdoo?? That means if they had any input we should be concerned? Some of you look for any way possible to inject incompetence to the organization.

is the possibility of Jones having to learn his 3rd offense in 3 years should. Certainly not ideal.

In comment 14780926 j_rud said:

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is the possibility of Jones having to learn his 3rd offense in 3 years should. Certainly not ideal.

No matter who is there it will be a different offense.

Please Lord, I'd sign up for Garrett as OC and Callahan as OL coach. I think that would be a good combo.

In comment 14780407 Big Blue '56 said:

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but I think he’d be good for DJ. The only problem is that he’ll probably receive a HC call next season, leaving DJ with 3 OCs in 3 years

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Is of one concern..leaving for hc job in near future

Makes a lot of sense for O and in support of JJ. If he brings Calahan, all the better.

perhaps dominant isn’t the right word, but when you’re the OC of too 5 offenses for multiple seasons that’s a good indication. Cowboys have kicked our asses for years now and he’s had a pretty good hand in all of those offenses whether HC or OC.

I meant to say

1) lowering his headset mike and spitting

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2) pushing players in the chest coming off the field after they make a big play

People will say ownership forced it, but Garrett worked for Saban in Miami. Could be a fit.

you've got a first year HC who was the low man on the totem pole as special team coach and potentially an OC who was a HC for 9 years. Very interesting situation.