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Earl the goat : 1/15/2020 6:41 pm
Beltran stepping down ???

Eduardo Perez will be new manager
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RE: Can't  
Metnut : 1/16/2020 12:48 pm : link
In comment 14781630 DanMetroMan said:
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believe the Mets dropped 2 of their much publicized analytics hires. Their website now has them with 1 single full-time employee (Guttridge). They were already behind in this regard. Sad.


Any idea why they did this?
RE: What  
allstarjim : 1/16/2020 1:04 pm : link
In comment 14781751 DanMetroMan said:
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He's a tool but there's zero wrong with that response. Reporter has to ask the question if he's doing his job, but that kind of answer has to be expected.
Beltran  
DanMetroMan : 1/16/2020 1:07 pm : link
has told the Mets he believes he should step down. Beltran out.
got a Yahoo alert that  
Drewcon40 : 1/16/2020 1:09 pm : link
Beltran stepped down.
RE: Beltran  
figgy2989 : 1/16/2020 1:09 pm : link
In comment 14781938 DanMetroMan said:
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has told the Mets he believes he should step down. Beltran out.


Unreal
Honestly if the negative attention this year was just on the dumb  
bhill410 : 1/16/2020 1:17 pm : link
Manager I would have been more than fine. Probably would have isolated the players to their benefit and Beltran is a big boy who can handle it. I have been ambiguous around the hire from the start so can’t get too worked up but it’s certainly less than ideal timing.
RE: RE: Beltran  
Gmanfandan : 1/16/2020 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14781941 figgy2989 said:
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In comment 14781938 DanMetroMan said:


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has told the Mets he believes he should step down. Beltran out.



Unreal


Never a dull moment in New York (N) Baseball
RE: RE: Beltran almost def went along with it and was probably enthusiastic  
Eric on Li : 1/16/2020 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14781601 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 14781595 Eric on Li said:


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since he has always been searching for an edge like that, like many other hitters both on the Astros and other teams.

But that's besides the point because the behavior that took it to the level of cheating (insertion of technology) was out of his control. That is on the team. And we also already know the highest levels of the FO was pushing the team personnel to gain an edge however they can by using cameras and other technology.

Beltran's participation may have been knowing, enthusiastic, and enormously helpful in their scheme's success, but it doesn't change the fact that if the FO hadn't been actively involved it seems unlikely the illegal component (cameras) would have been possible.



Eric,
I think these are 2 different issues. I'm simply stating based on everything we have heard Beltran was not in any way "pressured" into this. I want him retained but I also understand he was very much involved (as were other players). He wasn't an angel pressured to do bad things by his very close friend Alex Cora.


DMM - am I wrong or wasn't there an email from the Astros GM (or AGM) sending a note to his front office encouraging the usage of aggressive filming tactics well in advance of whenever this system rolled out?

I don't care what Beltran's moral compass/enthusiasm level was to take part in the scheme. My point is the active push from the highest levels of the houston front office is the core factor in this whole event crossing the line from gamesmanship to breaking rules (technology). I don't think it matters at all how eager the participating players were to take part in it. They are players who want to win, paid to at least in part listen to the direction they are receiving from management. Not to make moral judgements on where the line is, which is especially different if it's contrary to what your bosses are telling you to do. Mike Fiers deserves commendation for eventually going public and for having moral clarity to see what others should have had in the moment but even he took years to blow the whistle.
RE: Weak  
Earl the goat : 1/16/2020 1:45 pm : link
In comment 14781482 DanMetroMan said:
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sauce from Earl the Goat with the fake news.

Joel Sherman
@Joelsherman1
As of last night #Mets weren’t reaching out to experienced managers such as Showalter or Dusty Baker. They were mulling whether to move forward with Beltran. Heard there was a lot of conflict in org about what the right way to go would be.



Dan. Is it still weak and fake ?
RE: What  
Earl the goat : 1/16/2020 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14781751 DanMetroMan said:
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Dan. You said I reported fake news yesterday and it was weak
Still think that ?
Changing the subject to some good news  
pjcas18 : 1/16/2020 8:51 pm : link
Michael Mayer
@mikemayerMMO
· 10h
Folks, Mets catcher prospect Francisco Alvarez will play the entire 2020 season at 18 years old. https://twitter.com/mikemayerMMO/s


Christopher Soto
@SotoC803
Adley Rustchmann was the CLEAR cut #1 prospect in last year's draft......and Alvarez already matches him on both his hit tool and arm strength despite being 4 years younger than him.

Strong possibility that Alvarez ends up having 60 grades for his power and fielding very soon.
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pjcas18 : 1/16/2020 8:51 pm : link
Michael Mayer
@mikemayerMMO
· 10h
Top 10 catching prospects in baseball according to @MLBPipeline:

1 Adley Rutschman
2 Joey Bart
3 Sean Murphy
4 Luis Campusano
5 FRANCISCO ALVAREZ
6 Shea Langeliers
7 Keibert Ruiz
8 Sam Huff
9 Daulton Varsho
10 Miguel Amaya

https://mlb.com/news/top-catch
RE: Jessica Mendoza  
Carson53 : 1/17/2020 8:18 am : link
In comment 14781608 pjcas18 said:
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with the "snitches get stitches" take on Fiers. LOL.

Viewed as an "official" Mets response.
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Well, she really should shut the hell up, my goodness.
A former softball player, I mean really?
Brodie, the Boy Wonder may want to re-consider
having her around in any capacity. She does work for ESPN, so at times, it can be a conflict of interest.

This is what he said:

"Jessica was speaking as an ESPN analyst, not as a spokesperson for the Mets,” Van Wagenen said.
“I have not had the opportunity to speak with her yet.”
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