believe the Mets dropped 2 of their much publicized analytics hires. Their website now has them with 1 single full-time employee (Guttridge). They were already behind in this regard. Sad.
He's a tool but there's zero wrong with that response. Reporter has to ask the question if he's doing his job, but that kind of answer has to be expected.
Manager I would have been more than fine. Probably would have isolated the players to their benefit and Beltran is a big boy who can handle it. I have been ambiguous around the hire from the start so can’t get too worked up but it’s certainly less than ideal timing.
since he has always been searching for an edge like that, like many other hitters both on the Astros and other teams.
But that's besides the point because the behavior that took it to the level of cheating (insertion of technology) was out of his control. That is on the team. And we also already know the highest levels of the FO was pushing the team personnel to gain an edge however they can by using cameras and other technology.
Beltran's participation may have been knowing, enthusiastic, and enormously helpful in their scheme's success, but it doesn't change the fact that if the FO hadn't been actively involved it seems unlikely the illegal component (cameras) would have been possible.
Eric,
I think these are 2 different issues. I'm simply stating based on everything we have heard Beltran was not in any way "pressured" into this. I want him retained but I also understand he was very much involved (as were other players). He wasn't an angel pressured to do bad things by his very close friend Alex Cora.
DMM - am I wrong or wasn't there an email from the Astros GM (or AGM) sending a note to his front office encouraging the usage of aggressive filming tactics well in advance of whenever this system rolled out?
I don't care what Beltran's moral compass/enthusiasm level was to take part in the scheme. My point is the active push from the highest levels of the houston front office is the core factor in this whole event crossing the line from gamesmanship to breaking rules (technology). I don't think it matters at all how eager the participating players were to take part in it. They are players who want to win, paid to at least in part listen to the direction they are receiving from management. Not to make moral judgements on where the line is, which is especially different if it's contrary to what your bosses are telling you to do. Mike Fiers deserves commendation for eventually going public and for having moral clarity to see what others should have had in the moment but even he took years to blow the whistle.
Joel Sherman
@Joelsherman1
As of last night #Mets weren’t reaching out to experienced managers such as Showalter or Dusty Baker. They were mulling whether to move forward with Beltran. Heard there was a lot of conflict in org about what the right way to go would be.
Michael Mayer
@mikemayerMMO
· 10h
Folks, Mets catcher prospect Francisco Alvarez will play the entire 2020 season at 18 years old. https://twitter.com/mikemayerMMO/s
Christopher Soto
@SotoC803
Adley Rustchmann was the CLEAR cut #1 prospect in last year's draft......and Alvarez already matches him on both his hit tool and arm strength despite being 4 years younger than him.
Strong possibility that Alvarez ends up having 60 grades for his power and fielding very soon.
with the "snitches get stitches" take on Fiers. LOL.
Viewed as an "official" Mets response.
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Well, she really should shut the hell up, my goodness.
A former softball player, I mean really?
Brodie, the Boy Wonder may want to re-consider
having her around in any capacity. She does work for ESPN, so at times, it can be a conflict of interest.
This is what he said:
"Jessica was speaking as an ESPN analyst, not as a spokesperson for the Mets,” Van Wagenen said.
“I have not had the opportunity to speak with her yet.”
Any idea why they did this?
He's a tool but there's zero wrong with that response. Reporter has to ask the question if he's doing his job, but that kind of answer has to be expected.
Unreal
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has told the Mets he believes he should step down. Beltran out.
Unreal
Never a dull moment in New York (N) Baseball
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since he has always been searching for an edge like that, like many other hitters both on the Astros and other teams.
But that's besides the point because the behavior that took it to the level of cheating (insertion of technology) was out of his control. That is on the team. And we also already know the highest levels of the FO was pushing the team personnel to gain an edge however they can by using cameras and other technology.
Beltran's participation may have been knowing, enthusiastic, and enormously helpful in their scheme's success, but it doesn't change the fact that if the FO hadn't been actively involved it seems unlikely the illegal component (cameras) would have been possible.
Eric,
I think these are 2 different issues. I'm simply stating based on everything we have heard Beltran was not in any way "pressured" into this. I want him retained but I also understand he was very much involved (as were other players). He wasn't an angel pressured to do bad things by his very close friend Alex Cora.
DMM - am I wrong or wasn't there an email from the Astros GM (or AGM) sending a note to his front office encouraging the usage of aggressive filming tactics well in advance of whenever this system rolled out?
I don't care what Beltran's moral compass/enthusiasm level was to take part in the scheme. My point is the active push from the highest levels of the houston front office is the core factor in this whole event crossing the line from gamesmanship to breaking rules (technology). I don't think it matters at all how eager the participating players were to take part in it. They are players who want to win, paid to at least in part listen to the direction they are receiving from management. Not to make moral judgements on where the line is, which is especially different if it's contrary to what your bosses are telling you to do. Mike Fiers deserves commendation for eventually going public and for having moral clarity to see what others should have had in the moment but even he took years to blow the whistle.
Joel Sherman
@Joelsherman1
As of last night #Mets weren’t reaching out to experienced managers such as Showalter or Dusty Baker. They were mulling whether to move forward with Beltran. Heard there was a lot of conflict in org about what the right way to go would be.
Dan. Is it still weak and fake ?
Dan. You said I reported fake news yesterday and it was weak
Still think that ?
@mikemayerMMO
· 10h
Folks, Mets catcher prospect Francisco Alvarez will play the entire 2020 season at 18 years old. https://twitter.com/mikemayerMMO/s
Christopher Soto
@SotoC803
Adley Rustchmann was the CLEAR cut #1 prospect in last year's draft......and Alvarez already matches him on both his hit tool and arm strength despite being 4 years younger than him.
Strong possibility that Alvarez ends up having 60 grades for his power and fielding very soon.
@mikemayerMMO
· 10h
Top 10 catching prospects in baseball according to @MLBPipeline:
1 Adley Rutschman
2 Joey Bart
3 Sean Murphy
4 Luis Campusano
5 FRANCISCO ALVAREZ
6 Shea Langeliers
7 Keibert Ruiz
8 Sam Huff
9 Daulton Varsho
10 Miguel Amaya
https://mlb.com/news/top-catch
Viewed as an "official" Mets response.
Well, she really should shut the hell up, my goodness.
A former softball player, I mean really?
Brodie, the Boy Wonder may want to re-consider
having her around in any capacity. She does work for ESPN, so at times, it can be a conflict of interest.
This is what he said:
"Jessica was speaking as an ESPN analyst, not as a spokesperson for the Mets,” Van Wagenen said.
“I have not had the opportunity to speak with her yet.”