“Ben McAdoo is out there,” Schefter said. “The Eagles, at one point in time, were actually interested in hiring him as a head coach. I think he’s ready to come back into the game as an offensive coordinator now that Mara's teet has been suckled dry.”
to run a slant against a single high safety? Because that was pretty much it as far as the McAdoo scoring playbook goes. Otherwise, get ready for 99% 11 personnel and lots of handoffs from the shotgun.
McAdoo's 10-6 year with the Giants was driven by defense Â
The Giants offense was not impressive; however, I do give credit to McAdoo for realizing that Eli's immobility played a significant role in the Giants stagnant offense.
“Ben McAdoo is out there,” Schefter said. “The Eagles, at one point in time, were actually interested in hiring him as a head coach. I think he’s ready to come back into the game as an offensive coordinator now that Mara's teet has been suckled dry.”
The only Mara teets I wanna think about are Kate's or Rooney's.
People forget 10-6 hi first year. HC was a bridge to far for him. OC is perfect.
And people forget the offense sucked that year. They some w D. Guy is a clown. And a arrogant one.
They went 11-5 not 10-6 and yes the offense sucked when he was HC but do you remember how bad they sucked on offense when he was OC under Coughlin? Because I don’t, I remember them being really good.
one thing is for sure - losing to the Eagles, no matter how common it has become around here, is fucking painful enough. Losing to them with McAdoo as OC would be brutal.
Someone go pull Jim Fassel out of whatever strip club he's in and see if he wants to be a special adviser.
one thing is for sure - losing to the Eagles, no matter how common it has become around here, is fucking painful enough. Losing to them with McAdoo as OC would be brutal.
Someone go pull Jim Fassel out of whatever strip club he's in and see if he wants to be a special adviser.
For real. Assuming he’s be calling plays from Pedersen’s playbook, and not from Ben’s Chinese menu of about 15 plays, I’d expect McAdoo to do a fine job. Especially vs the weak defenses in the NFC East.
People forget 10-6 hi first year. HC was a bridge to far for him. OC is perfect.
And people forget the offense sucked that year. They some w D. Guy is a clown. And a arrogant one.
They went 11-5 not 10-6 and yes the offense sucked when he was HC but do you remember how bad they sucked on offense when he was OC under Coughlin? Because I don’t, I remember them being really good.
Yeah. Cuz TC was there to mentor him imo. And you might want to check but that was hardly a top 5 O. . His offense was predicated on OBJ. Imo he’s a shitty OC. The two years it was all his to run it sucked. Mr. 11 Personnel. Funny. . If you think he’s a great OC fine. Somehow Bill Walsh Jr hasn’t gotten a sniff at a job. Shurmur was snapped up who did just as bad. We can agree to disagree. For me It would be a dream come true for him to get that job for me as a Giant fan.
to run a slant against a single high safety? Because that was pretty much it as far as the McAdoo scoring playbook goes. Otherwise, get ready for 99% 11 personnel and lots of handoffs from the shotgun.
Man don’t remind me.....And as bad as his playbook and offensive philosophy was, his handling of the the locker room was even worse.
He’s probably got a place in the nfl doing something, maybe he’s ok in personnel somewhere or some asst coach stuff, but he was brutal as HC.
but he only got the HC gig here bc he did pretty damn well as the OC prior. He was incredibly stubborn as evidenced by the 11 personnel thing but I think it's stupid to not wonder how much organizational dysfunction impacted his tenure.
People forget 10-6 hi first year. HC was a bridge to far for him. OC is perfect.
And people forget the offense sucked that year. They some w D. Guy is a clown. And a arrogant one.
They went 11-5 not 10-6 and yes the offense sucked when he was HC but do you remember how bad they sucked on offense when he was OC under Coughlin? Because I don’t, I remember them being really good.
That's because Coughlin reeled him in and made sure he kept some of the elements that Coughlin liked. When McAdoo had full control it went to 11 Personnel 95% of the time.
A aging Eli Manning and the worst group of Giants RB’s in a long time... He wanted Mahomes. What if the Reese actually believed in his the first time H/C and traded up ahead of KC for the guy McAdoo wanted?
Yes he does. This is an odd move. Not sure why they would want McAdoo. Possibly as a passing game coordinator or some role like that. I can’t see Doug giving up his play calling duties. Just doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Put up plenty of points as OC for the giants. People love to refer to those points and stats when defending players they love.
Somehow those are only coughlin and Eli’s points
Then he takes over as coach and realizes the point is to win- he calls a more conservative game and relies on his defense, his game management, and obj. They win and make the playoffs.
But for 2016 people now shit on him because they didn’t score enough? But they won? Due to his strategy
He’s not a bad football coach he just was incapable of handling the 2017 dumpster fire.
And yeah the offense was not all that good. But if you get 10+ wins in the league...you had a pretty good season and the coach should get credit. He seemed to turn into a douche his second year and lost the team. But he got the job because he had prior success.
Any coaches success or failure depends on what they are given in terms of players to a significant extent. McAdoo benefitted from an influx of free agent talent his first year. I imagine Coughlin would have done well too. Shurmur was saddled with a crap roster this past year. Over $100M in dead money and cap space going to 5-6 guys. The Giants were going to suck no matter who coached them this year.
None of these coaches in the NFL are morons. Where they fail is trying to take on too much, poor game management and poor interaction with players. Judge could easily come in and if is not careful...lose the team right away.
but he only got the HC gig here bc he did pretty damn well as the OC prior. He was incredibly stubborn as evidenced by the 11 personnel thing but I think it's stupid to not wonder how much organizational dysfunction impacted his tenure.
I felt that he got the HC job because they didn't want to change the offense for Eli three times in two years.
"Protect the duke."
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“Ben McAdoo is out there,” Schefter said. “The Eagles, at one point in time, were actually interested in hiring him as a head coach. I think he’s ready to come back into the game as an offensive coordinator now that Mara's teet has been suckled dry.”
The only Mara teets I wanna think about are Kate's or Rooney's.
And people forget the offense sucked that year. They some w D. Guy is a clown. And a arrogant one.
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People forget 10-6 hi first year. HC was a bridge to far for him. OC is perfect.
And people forget the offense sucked that year. They some w D. Guy is a clown. And a arrogant one.
They went 11-5 not 10-6 and yes the offense sucked when he was HC but do you remember how bad they sucked on offense when he was OC under Coughlin? Because I don’t, I remember them being really good.
Giants went 11-5 in 2016.
Someone go pull Jim Fassel out of whatever strip club he's in and see if he wants to be a special adviser.
Someone go pull Jim Fassel out of whatever strip club he's in and see if he wants to be a special adviser.
For real. Assuming he’s be calling plays from Pedersen’s playbook, and not from Ben’s Chinese menu of about 15 plays, I’d expect McAdoo to do a fine job. Especially vs the weak defenses in the NFC East.
Jeff Lurie made Pederson fire him.
It was Mike Groh. Pederson gave him a vote of confidence one day then the owner fired him the next.
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People forget 10-6 hi first year. HC was a bridge to far for him. OC is perfect.
And people forget the offense sucked that year. They some w D. Guy is a clown. And a arrogant one.
They went 11-5 not 10-6 and yes the offense sucked when he was HC but do you remember how bad they sucked on offense when he was OC under Coughlin? Because I don’t, I remember them being really good.
Yeah. Cuz TC was there to mentor him imo. And you might want to check but that was hardly a top 5 O. . His offense was predicated on OBJ. Imo he’s a shitty OC. The two years it was all his to run it sucked. Mr. 11 Personnel. Funny. . If you think he’s a great OC fine. Somehow Bill Walsh Jr hasn’t gotten a sniff at a job. Shurmur was snapped up who did just as bad. We can agree to disagree. For me It would be a dream come true for him to get that job for me as a Giant fan.
Man don’t remind me.....And as bad as his playbook and offensive philosophy was, his handling of the the locker room was even worse.
He’s probably got a place in the nfl doing something, maybe he’s ok in personnel somewhere or some asst coach stuff, but he was brutal as HC.
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People forget 10-6 hi first year. HC was a bridge to far for him. OC is perfect.
And people forget the offense sucked that year. They some w D. Guy is a clown. And a arrogant one.
They went 11-5 not 10-6 and yes the offense sucked when he was HC but do you remember how bad they sucked on offense when he was OC under Coughlin? Because I don’t, I remember them being really good.
That's because Coughlin reeled him in and made sure he kept some of the elements that Coughlin liked. When McAdoo had full control it went to 11 Personnel 95% of the time.
Do you really think he would have a dramatic impact on that team? Schwartz and Pederson keep their units pretty tight.
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Laughing at a potential Eagles move that will just end up working out for them somehow?
Do you really think he would have a dramatic impact on that team? Schwartz and Pederson keep their units pretty tight.
I wouldn't think so.
And then I'd be wrong about it. Again. I'm sick of being wrong about them.
Can't that fucking team go through a prolonged rebuild, like, ever?
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Laughing at a potential Eagles move that will just end up working out for them somehow?
Do you really think he would have a dramatic impact on that team? Schwartz and Pederson keep their units pretty tight.
I wouldn't think so.
And then I'd be wrong about it. Again. I'm sick of being wrong about them.
Can't that fucking team go through a prolonged rebuild, like, ever?
I’m with you, pal.
Yes he does. This is an odd move. Not sure why they would want McAdoo. Possibly as a passing game coordinator or some role like that. I can’t see Doug giving up his play calling duties. Just doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Somehow those are only coughlin and Eli’s points
Then he takes over as coach and realizes the point is to win- he calls a more conservative game and relies on his defense, his game management, and obj. They win and make the playoffs.
But for 2016 people now shit on him because they didn’t score enough? But they won? Due to his strategy
He’s not a bad football coach he just was incapable of handling the 2017 dumpster fire.
Any coaches success or failure depends on what they are given in terms of players to a significant extent. McAdoo benefitted from an influx of free agent talent his first year. I imagine Coughlin would have done well too. Shurmur was saddled with a crap roster this past year. Over $100M in dead money and cap space going to 5-6 guys. The Giants were going to suck no matter who coached them this year.
None of these coaches in the NFL are morons. Where they fail is trying to take on too much, poor game management and poor interaction with players. Judge could easily come in and if is not careful...lose the team right away.
I felt that he got the HC job because they didn't want to change the offense for Eli three times in two years.