Chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon said Beltran and the Mets mutually decided to part ways. A source close to Beltran said Beltran wanted to stay, but the Mets insisted on a breakup, wanting to avoid the distraction of what they saw as an untenable situation. Beltran was manager for 77 days and zero games.
Something does smell right in Metsville (Messville). I don't believe for 1 second that MLB had no say in this. Mets ownership went to MLB offices yesterday to get clarity and then decided he needs to go. Beltran did what he was asked to do. MLB publicly said he would face no suspension but BVW and Wilpon were very coy when it came to the conversations with MLB. MLB is not being very transparent which always suggests to me something is going on.
The worst part is that MLB didn't clue the Mets in at any point over the last few months and left them hanging. It's one thing to nail Houston and Boston but why are the Mets suffering? It is because Wilpon has no spine. For a guy that is so image conscious, he sure makes a lot of boneheaded decisions.When they said Beltran was sad I always felt he was sad he lost this opportunity.
At the end of the day what does this highlight. The Mets are a Mickey Mouse organization owned by spineless owners and there is no reason a manager or player should come to the NYM until they sell in a couple of years. Link - ( New Window )
Chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon said Beltran and the Mets mutually decided to part ways. A source close to Beltran said Beltran wanted to stay, but the Mets insisted on a breakup, wanting to avoid the distraction of what they saw as an untenable situation. Beltran was manager for 77 days and zero games.
Something does smell right in Metsville (Messville). I don't believe for 1 second that MLB had no say in this. Mets ownership went to MLB offices yesterday to get clarity and then decided he needs to go. Beltran did what he was asked to do. MLB publicly said he would face no suspension but BVW and Wilpon were very coy when it came to the conversations with MLB. MLB is not being very transparent which always suggests to me something is going on.
The worst part is that MLB didn't clue the Mets in at any point over the last few months and left them hanging. It's one thing to nail Houston and Boston but why are the Mets suffering? It is because Wilpon has no spine. For a guy that is so image conscious, he sure makes a lot of boneheaded decisions.When they said Beltran was sad I always felt he was sad he lost this opportunity.
At the end of the day what does this highlight. The Mets are a Mickey Mouse organization owned by spineless owners and there is no reason a manager or player should come to the NYM until they sell in a couple of years. Link - ( New Window )
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Everybody, calm down. This current crisis is unfortunate to the nth degree, but not insurmountable. We have a solid team, good core of young everyday players, mixed with veterans, and a solid rotation. They have great camaraderie, spirit, a will to win, and theyre hungry
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This will all iron itself out. So sit back, enjoy life. Life is good. Stop stressing. Our season will hinge on our bullpen. Betances is a good gamble and hes pitched in NY. Atlanta and Washington lost key offensive players. Division wide open and very competitive. So relax
I would just promote Hensley Meulens, make DeFrancesco bench coach, and Rojas 1st base coach. Apparently, Bam Bam is being strongly considered for the Red Sox managerial position. MassLive gives him the second best odds behind Jason Varitek. Link - ( New Window )
That Beltran was highly regarded as a baseball help by players and organizations for years.
It might have been easy to assume he was the same old Beltran.
And he the person likely is. He was too close to the flames and im guessing here stonewalled higher ups that asked.
Natural when you are close to being named to your dream and you have contributed to baseball for so long.
All in all...missing his level of involvement is not a terrible mistake and terminating a major distraction before spring training when it would be a non stop media bombardment...smart organizational move that puts the players and fans first
imo
+1. I don't see how this reflects badly on the Mets at all.
The only way it reflects badly on them to me is they either knew all about this or should've known.before or during the Beltran hire.
BVW is supposedly tight with Hinch as is Jessica Mendiza. I find it a bit hard to believe BVW or Mendoza didn't at least hear some whispers or given a heads up during the Beltran interview process.
If somehow they didn't know anything it begs the question why didn't they? It's not like this thing came out of the clear blue sky.
That Beltran was highly regarded as a baseball help by players and organizations for years.
It might have been easy to assume he was the same old Beltran.
And he the person likely is. He was too close to the flames and im guessing here stonewalled higher ups that asked.
Natural when you are close to being named to your dream and you have contributed to baseball for so long.
All in all...missing his level of involvement is not a terrible mistake and terminating a major distraction before spring training when it would be a non stop media bombardment...smart organizational move that puts the players and fans first
imo
+1. I don't see how this reflects badly on the Mets at all.
The only way it reflects badly on them to me is they either knew all about this or should've known.before or during the Beltran hire.
BVW is supposedly tight with Hinch as is Jessica Mendiza. I find it a bit hard to believe BVW or Mendoza didn't at least hear some whispers or given a heads up during the Beltran interview process.
If somehow they didn't know anything it begs the question why didn't they? It's not like this thing came out of the clear blue sky.
They absolutely knew, they just can't make that known/public because then the Mets are the team that knew and tried to keep Beltran regardless and had to have their hand forced.
All of a sudden the "lack of integrity bulls-eye" is right back on the Mets
That Beltran was highly regarded as a baseball help by players and organizations for years.
It might have been easy to assume he was the same old Beltran.
And he the person likely is. He was too close to the flames and im guessing here stonewalled higher ups that asked.
Natural when you are close to being named to your dream and you have contributed to baseball for so long.
All in all...missing his level of involvement is not a terrible mistake and terminating a major distraction before spring training when it would be a non stop media bombardment...smart organizational move that puts the players and fans first
imo
+1. I don't see how this reflects badly on the Mets at all.
The only way it reflects badly on them to me is they either knew all about this or should've known.before or during the Beltran hire.
BVW is supposedly tight with Hinch as is Jessica Mendiza. I find it a bit hard to believe BVW or Mendoza didn't at least hear some whispers or given a heads up during the Beltran interview process.
If somehow they didn't know anything it begs the question why didn't they? It's not like this thing came out of the clear blue sky.
They absolutely knew, they just can't make that known/public because then the Mets are the team that knew and tried to keep Beltran regardless and had to have their hand forced.
All of a sudden the "lack of integrity bulls-eye" is right back on the Mets
You may be right, and just to be clear I'm not taking a shot at the Mets here. I'd feel the exact same if you replaced "Mets" with any other team.
Eduardo Perez: +300
Hensley Meulens: +350
Luis Rojas: +400
Tim Bogar: +400
Terry Collins: +700
Tony DeFrancesco: +700
Bruce Bochy: +900
Buck Showalter: +900
Dusty Baker: +900
John Gibbons: +1000
Kevin Long: +1200
I think Perez and Muelens make the most sense (hence the strong odds. I want nothing to do with Rojas. He didn't make it past 1st round the last time. Collins to me would be a stop gap until new ownership takes over. To me a waste. Honestly if Bochy was interested I think he could be an interesting choice. World Series winner. Just not sure how he would work with existing coaching staff or analytics.
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Hey @TheClemReport hows this for full circle! Mets tried to trade Wilmer Flores for Carlos Gomez in 2015 but Mets back out. Milwaukee sends Gomez to Houston with Mike Fiers who exposed the scandal thus leading to the dominos falling including Beltrans dismissal! Wow!!
If they truly cared about winning it would be Buck or Dusty. Or give Bochy a call and see if he changed his mind about retirement.
Not intended to be provocative coming from a Yankees fan, but I'm shocked that a fan of any team with a good pitching staff would want Dusty Baker as their manager.
RE: RE: Showalter stands out but I doubt BVW does it
If they truly cared about winning it would be Buck or Dusty. Or give Bochy a call and see if he changed his mind about retirement.
Not intended to be provocative coming from a Yankees fan, but I'm shocked that a fan of any team with a good pitching staff would want Dusty Baker as their manager.
Indeed.
Personally, Id go with Rojas or Perez or Meulens if they truly believe in their long-term abilities.
If not, Id ask Terry Collins to return for one year and do a proper search next November.
My out of the box choices would be Fonzie and an inquiry to David Wright.
he wouldn't have been my top choice entering the offseason but 3 weeks before ST I'll take a guy who seems to always win 90+ games. But anyone who can set the lineup card correctly will be an upgrade.
RE: RE: RE: Showalter stands out but I doubt BVW does it
If they truly cared about winning it would be Buck or Dusty. Or give Bochy a call and see if he changed his mind about retirement.
Not intended to be provocative coming from a Yankees fan, but I'm shocked that a fan of any team with a good pitching staff would want Dusty Baker as their manager.
Indeed.
Personally, Id go with Rojas or Perez or Meulens if they truly believe in their long-term abilities.
If not, Id ask Terry Collins to return for one year and do a proper search next November.
My out of the box choices would be Fonzie and an inquiry to David Wright.
Probably the only Mets fan saying this but I like the younger approach to hiring a manager who studies analytics.
Analytics has the power to finding flaws and either exposing or correcting.
Mets have a number of players that need to have their techniques studied and tweaked, Beltran was going to be the perfect fit for that need.
Rojas could be the next best option, however whoever they hire they better lean on Meulens when deciding.
Disagree - in this org the most important thing is a strong culture
and credible experience in building that. The Wilpons are well known clowns. BVW is good at the microphone and may have a team of people to help him make some good decisions here and there, but he knows nothing about how to build a culture in a lockerroom. He simply hasn't done it or been around it.
A young guy with fresh ideas can certainly work, baseball managing isn't the most complicated job in the sports world - but they also don't have experience with the media and can get overwhelmed here. Or not know how to be the right kind of leader. Or make tactical mistakes from never having managed before.
Callaway just did all of those things over the past 2 years and at least last year I think he honestly cost them the playoffs. I believe his awful leadership and terrible command of in-game decisions cost them a lot more games than a typical manager would. If they had 1 extra win for every time he had to publicly apologize to the team/media last year they'd have won 90.
btw here's how close the mets were to playoffs last year
the Brewers made the 2nd WC with a record of 89-73 and just a +3 run differential.
Off the top of my head - twice Callaway apologized for pulling Thor too early with low pitch counts, once in front of the whole team if I'm remembering correctly. He did the same with Matz in a game down the stretch when his pitch could was like in the 70's/80's and I think he had a shutout going for a time. And obviously there's the Nats comeback game where he started the 9th inning with like Seawald - another young guy - and then Avilan vs. a righty.
Not firing him in June - when for the 2nd straight year his team literally went in the tank for him to the point of almost ending the season pre ASB - cost them the playoffs.
Or another older manager with gravitas as a stop-gap here for one or two years. Cohen will probably want his own GM and manager anyway.
Id really prefer Collins for one year, but Baker, Bochy, Buck to stabilize the mood and let the club work is the call I think.
86 win team that played .634 ball 2nd half - you just want someone who can minimize the distraction and move forward. I say Collins because he obviously knows the job and his players went hard for him.
But man, ready to get this over and get to camp cause its hard not to lose sight of the fact that this team had a great run to end the year and has a good shot at improvement with Betances on board and hopefully a bounce back from at least one of Diaz and Familia.
Braves and Nats both lost some key pieces. They can be in the mix with good health and a bullpen resurgence.
So odd to see three manager vacancies in Jan, let alone the 17 & 18 champs and an 86 win team returning the cy young and ROY.
RE: btw here's how close the mets were to playoffs last year
the Brewers made the 2nd WC with a record of 89-73 and just a +3 run differential.
Off the top of my head - twice Callaway apologized for pulling Thor too early with low pitch counts, once in front of the whole team if I'm remembering correctly. He did the same with Matz in a game down the stretch when his pitch could was like in the 70's/80's and I think he had a shutout going for a time. And obviously there's the Nats comeback game where he started the 9th inning with like Seawald - another young guy - and then Avilan vs. a righty.
Not firing him in June - when for the 2nd straight year his team literally went in the tank for him to the point of almost ending the season pre ASB - cost them the playoffs.
I'm not sure about that, I watched alot of post game pressers after wins last year with the Mets.
Mets players knew Callaway was on the hot seat and were playing hard for him and constantly credited him for his coaching moments.
But seeing that BVW is at it again in opening up talks with pirates. Of note in the article was that he was willing to part with Nimmo but that the pirates wanted prospects. I point this out only to highlight what a bad GM he is.
Also if he somehow trades for Marte and it doesnt include Nimmo (which no one thinks is a good idea) then it may even be dumber unless there is a parallel trade to remove glut of outfielders.
Or another older manager with gravitas as a stop-gap here for one or two years. Cohen will probably want his own GM and manager anyway.
Id really prefer Collins for one year, but Baker, Bochy, Buck to stabilize the mood and let the club work is the call I think.
86 win team that played .634 ball 2nd half - you just want someone who can minimize the distraction and move forward. I say Collins because he obviously knows the job and his players went hard for him.
But man, ready to get this over and get to camp cause its hard not to lose sight of the fact that this team had a great run to end the year and has a good shot at improvement with Betances on board and hopefully a bounce back from at least one of Diaz and Familia.
Braves and Nats both lost some key pieces. They can be in the mix with good health and a bullpen resurgence.
So odd to see three manager vacancies in Jan, let alone the 17 & 18 champs and an 86 win team returning the cy young and ROY.
Dont want Baker with this coaching staff. Would be fine with Bochy. I am also comfortable giving Meulens a shot. He coached under Bochy and Mets thought enough of him to bench coach a rookie manager.
Something does smell right in Metsville (Messville). I don't believe for 1 second that MLB had no say in this. Mets ownership went to MLB offices yesterday to get clarity and then decided he needs to go. Beltran did what he was asked to do. MLB publicly said he would face no suspension but BVW and Wilpon were very coy when it came to the conversations with MLB. MLB is not being very transparent which always suggests to me something is going on.
The worst part is that MLB didn't clue the Mets in at any point over the last few months and left them hanging. It's one thing to nail Houston and Boston but why are the Mets suffering? It is because Wilpon has no spine. For a guy that is so image conscious, he sure makes a lot of boneheaded decisions.When they said Beltran was sad I always felt he was sad he lost this opportunity.
At the end of the day what does this highlight. The Mets are a Mickey Mouse organization owned by spineless owners and there is no reason a manager or player should come to the NYM until they sell in a couple of years.
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Something does smell right in Metsville (Messville). I don't believe for 1 second that MLB had no say in this. Mets ownership went to MLB offices yesterday to get clarity and then decided he needs to go. Beltran did what he was asked to do. MLB publicly said he would face no suspension but BVW and Wilpon were very coy when it came to the conversations with MLB. MLB is not being very transparent which always suggests to me something is going on.
The worst part is that MLB didn't clue the Mets in at any point over the last few months and left them hanging. It's one thing to nail Houston and Boston but why are the Mets suffering? It is because Wilpon has no spine. For a guy that is so image conscious, he sure makes a lot of boneheaded decisions.When they said Beltran was sad I always felt he was sad he lost this opportunity.
At the end of the day what does this highlight. The Mets are a Mickey Mouse organization owned by spineless owners and there is no reason a manager or player should come to the NYM until they sell in a couple of years. Link - ( New Window )
Doesn't smell right.
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@keithhernandez
Everybody, calm down. This current crisis is unfortunate to the nth degree, but not insurmountable. We have a solid team, good core of young everyday players, mixed with veterans, and a solid rotation. They have great camaraderie, spirit, a will to win, and theyre hungry
This will all iron itself out. So sit back, enjoy life. Life is good. Stop stressing. Our season will hinge on our bullpen. Betances is a good gamble and hes pitched in NY. Atlanta and Washington lost key offensive players. Division wide open and very competitive. So relax
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That Beltran was highly regarded as a baseball help by players and organizations for years.
It might have been easy to assume he was the same old Beltran.
And he the person likely is. He was too close to the flames and im guessing here stonewalled higher ups that asked.
Natural when you are close to being named to your dream and you have contributed to baseball for so long.
All in all...missing his level of involvement is not a terrible mistake and terminating a major distraction before spring training when it would be a non stop media bombardment...smart organizational move that puts the players and fans first
imo
+1. I don't see how this reflects badly on the Mets at all.
The only way it reflects badly on them to me is they either knew all about this or should've known.before or during the Beltran hire.
BVW is supposedly tight with Hinch as is Jessica Mendiza. I find it a bit hard to believe BVW or Mendoza didn't at least hear some whispers or given a heads up during the Beltran interview process.
If somehow they didn't know anything it begs the question why didn't they? It's not like this thing came out of the clear blue sky.
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In comment 14782381 Bill2 said:
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That Beltran was highly regarded as a baseball help by players and organizations for years.
It might have been easy to assume he was the same old Beltran.
And he the person likely is. He was too close to the flames and im guessing here stonewalled higher ups that asked.
Natural when you are close to being named to your dream and you have contributed to baseball for so long.
All in all...missing his level of involvement is not a terrible mistake and terminating a major distraction before spring training when it would be a non stop media bombardment...smart organizational move that puts the players and fans first
imo
+1. I don't see how this reflects badly on the Mets at all.
The only way it reflects badly on them to me is they either knew all about this or should've known.before or during the Beltran hire.
BVW is supposedly tight with Hinch as is Jessica Mendiza. I find it a bit hard to believe BVW or Mendoza didn't at least hear some whispers or given a heads up during the Beltran interview process.
If somehow they didn't know anything it begs the question why didn't they? It's not like this thing came out of the clear blue sky.
They absolutely knew, they just can't make that known/public because then the Mets are the team that knew and tried to keep Beltran regardless and had to have their hand forced.
All of a sudden the "lack of integrity bulls-eye" is right back on the Mets
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In comment 14782608 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 14782381 Bill2 said:
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That Beltran was highly regarded as a baseball help by players and organizations for years.
It might have been easy to assume he was the same old Beltran.
And he the person likely is. He was too close to the flames and im guessing here stonewalled higher ups that asked.
Natural when you are close to being named to your dream and you have contributed to baseball for so long.
All in all...missing his level of involvement is not a terrible mistake and terminating a major distraction before spring training when it would be a non stop media bombardment...smart organizational move that puts the players and fans first
imo
+1. I don't see how this reflects badly on the Mets at all.
The only way it reflects badly on them to me is they either knew all about this or should've known.before or during the Beltran hire.
BVW is supposedly tight with Hinch as is Jessica Mendiza. I find it a bit hard to believe BVW or Mendoza didn't at least hear some whispers or given a heads up during the Beltran interview process.
If somehow they didn't know anything it begs the question why didn't they? It's not like this thing came out of the clear blue sky.
They absolutely knew, they just can't make that known/public because then the Mets are the team that knew and tried to keep Beltran regardless and had to have their hand forced.
All of a sudden the "lack of integrity bulls-eye" is right back on the Mets
You may be right, and just to be clear I'm not taking a shot at the Mets here. I'd feel the exact same if you replaced "Mets" with any other team.
Out of the list below from betonline.ag
Eduardo Perez: +300
Hensley Meulens: +350
Luis Rojas: +400
Tim Bogar: +400
Terry Collins: +700
Tony DeFrancesco: +700
Bruce Bochy: +900
Buck Showalter: +900
Dusty Baker: +900
John Gibbons: +1000
Kevin Long: +1200
I think Perez and Muelens make the most sense (hence the strong odds. I want nothing to do with Rojas. He didn't make it past 1st round the last time. Collins to me would be a stop gap until new ownership takes over. To me a waste. Honestly if Bochy was interested I think he could be an interesting choice. World Series winner. Just not sure how he would work with existing coaching staff or analytics.
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Hey @TheClemReport hows this for full circle! Mets tried to trade Wilmer Flores for Carlos Gomez in 2015 but Mets back out. Milwaukee sends Gomez to Houston with Mike Fiers who exposed the scandal thus leading to the dominos falling including Beltrans dismissal! Wow!!
If they truly cared about winning it would be Buck or Dusty. Or give Bochy a call and see if he changed his mind about retirement.
If they truly cared about winning it would be Buck or Dusty. Or give Bochy a call and see if he changed his mind about retirement.
Not intended to be provocative coming from a Yankees fan, but I'm shocked that a fan of any team with a good pitching staff would want Dusty Baker as their manager.
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so it will probably be Rojas or Muelens.
If they truly cared about winning it would be Buck or Dusty. Or give Bochy a call and see if he changed his mind about retirement.
Not intended to be provocative coming from a Yankees fan, but I'm shocked that a fan of any team with a good pitching staff would want Dusty Baker as their manager.
Indeed.
Personally, Id go with Rojas or Perez or Meulens if they truly believe in their long-term abilities.
If not, Id ask Terry Collins to return for one year and do a proper search next November.
My out of the box choices would be Fonzie and an inquiry to David Wright.
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In comment 14783982 Eric on Li said:
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so it will probably be Rojas or Muelens.
If they truly cared about winning it would be Buck or Dusty. Or give Bochy a call and see if he changed his mind about retirement.
Not intended to be provocative coming from a Yankees fan, but I'm shocked that a fan of any team with a good pitching staff would want Dusty Baker as their manager.
Indeed.
Personally, Id go with Rojas or Perez or Meulens if they truly believe in their long-term abilities.
If not, Id ask Terry Collins to return for one year and do a proper search next November.
My out of the box choices would be Fonzie and an inquiry to David Wright.
Probably the only Mets fan saying this but I like the younger approach to hiring a manager who studies analytics.
Analytics has the power to finding flaws and either exposing or correcting.
Mets have a number of players that need to have their techniques studied and tweaked, Beltran was going to be the perfect fit for that need.
Rojas could be the next best option, however whoever they hire they better lean on Meulens when deciding.
A young guy with fresh ideas can certainly work, baseball managing isn't the most complicated job in the sports world - but they also don't have experience with the media and can get overwhelmed here. Or not know how to be the right kind of leader. Or make tactical mistakes from never having managed before.
Callaway just did all of those things over the past 2 years and at least last year I think he honestly cost them the playoffs. I believe his awful leadership and terrible command of in-game decisions cost them a lot more games than a typical manager would. If they had 1 extra win for every time he had to publicly apologize to the team/media last year they'd have won 90.
the Brewers made the 2nd WC with a record of 89-73 and just a +3 run differential.
Off the top of my head - twice Callaway apologized for pulling Thor too early with low pitch counts, once in front of the whole team if I'm remembering correctly. He did the same with Matz in a game down the stretch when his pitch could was like in the 70's/80's and I think he had a shutout going for a time. And obviously there's the Nats comeback game where he started the 9th inning with like Seawald - another young guy - and then Avilan vs. a righty.
Not firing him in June - when for the 2nd straight year his team literally went in the tank for him to the point of almost ending the season pre ASB - cost them the playoffs.
Id really prefer Collins for one year, but Baker, Bochy, Buck to stabilize the mood and let the club work is the call I think.
86 win team that played .634 ball 2nd half - you just want someone who can minimize the distraction and move forward. I say Collins because he obviously knows the job and his players went hard for him.
But man, ready to get this over and get to camp cause its hard not to lose sight of the fact that this team had a great run to end the year and has a good shot at improvement with Betances on board and hopefully a bounce back from at least one of Diaz and Familia.
Braves and Nats both lost some key pieces. They can be in the mix with good health and a bullpen resurgence.
So odd to see three manager vacancies in Jan, let alone the 17 & 18 champs and an 86 win team returning the cy young and ROY.
the Brewers made the 2nd WC with a record of 89-73 and just a +3 run differential.
Off the top of my head - twice Callaway apologized for pulling Thor too early with low pitch counts, once in front of the whole team if I'm remembering correctly. He did the same with Matz in a game down the stretch when his pitch could was like in the 70's/80's and I think he had a shutout going for a time. And obviously there's the Nats comeback game where he started the 9th inning with like Seawald - another young guy - and then Avilan vs. a righty.
Not firing him in June - when for the 2nd straight year his team literally went in the tank for him to the point of almost ending the season pre ASB - cost them the playoffs.
I'm not sure about that, I watched alot of post game pressers after wins last year with the Mets.
Mets players knew Callaway was on the hot seat and were playing hard for him and constantly credited him for his coaching moments.
Also if he somehow trades for Marte and it doesnt include Nimmo (which no one thinks is a good idea) then it may even be dumber unless there is a parallel trade to remove glut of outfielders.
Id really prefer Collins for one year, but Baker, Bochy, Buck to stabilize the mood and let the club work is the call I think.
86 win team that played .634 ball 2nd half - you just want someone who can minimize the distraction and move forward. I say Collins because he obviously knows the job and his players went hard for him.
But man, ready to get this over and get to camp cause its hard not to lose sight of the fact that this team had a great run to end the year and has a good shot at improvement with Betances on board and hopefully a bounce back from at least one of Diaz and Familia.
Braves and Nats both lost some key pieces. They can be in the mix with good health and a bullpen resurgence.
So odd to see three manager vacancies in Jan, let alone the 17 & 18 champs and an 86 win team returning the cy young and ROY.
Dont want Baker with this coaching staff. Would be fine with Bochy. I am also comfortable giving Meulens a shot. He coached under Bochy and Mets thought enough of him to bench coach a rookie manager.