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NGT: Matt Rhule interviews Ben McAdoo

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/16/2020 1:50 pm
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Panthers coach Matt Rhule has interviewed ex-Giants coach Ben McAdoo for staff position. Ex-Chargers coach Mike McCoy in CLT for interview today, per league source.
Hmmm  
section125 : 1/16/2020 1:52 pm : link
mmmmmmmmmmmm!
Is there some new rule in the NFL  
figgy2989 : 1/16/2020 1:53 pm : link
that we don't know about where any team with an open staff position has to interview at least one guy who doesn't know how to wear a suit?
Seriously though  
figgy2989 : 1/16/2020 1:53 pm : link
Brady seems to be an innovative guy why in the world we he want a guy on his staff who is the complete opposite.
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Brown Recluse : 1/16/2020 1:55 pm : link
More Coughlin influence?  
Ben in Tampa : 1/16/2020 2:02 pm : link
could be coming in as the QB or TE coach in Carolina
What influence would Coughlin have in Carolina?  
figgy2989 : 1/16/2020 2:04 pm : link
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RE: What influence would Coughlin have in Carolina?  
jcn56 : 1/16/2020 2:18 pm : link
In comment 14782131 figgy2989 said:
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It was reported the other day that Coughlin was advising Rhule.

Interesting development, seeing as a lot of people thought Coughlin was forced to hire McAdoo.
My what a  
FranknWeezer : 1/16/2020 2:18 pm : link
What makes people think  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/16/2020 2:19 pm : link
Coughlin would hire him again he was forced on him in the first place. The. Handed the job.

Guess no one wants him as an OC. Even though it did take Bill Walsh level genius to devise slants to OBJ. On and just like Mike McCarthy he made Aaron Rodgers who he is
Maybe they’re bringing in Geno Smith to replace Cam ?  
Spider56 : 1/16/2020 2:40 pm : link
Or Rhule finally realized he needs someone on his staff that can at least spell ‘professional’ football.
RE: Seriously though  
Blue Dream : 1/16/2020 2:59 pm : link
In comment 14782102 figgy2989 said:
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Brady seems to be an innovative guy why in the world we he want a guy on his staff who is the complete opposite.


He would be a good QB coach. Eli's accuracy and footwork improved a lot under Mac. It was his offensive system that was dogshit and he won't be in control of that down there
RE: Is there some new rule in the NFL  
Victor in CT : 1/16/2020 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14782095 figgy2989 said:
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that we don't know about where any team with an open staff position has to interview at least one guy who doesn't know how to wear a suit?


Rooney's corollary to the Rooney Rule.
RE: RE: What influence would Coughlin have in Carolina?  
FStubbs : 1/16/2020 3:26 pm : link
In comment 14782164 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14782131 figgy2989 said:


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It was reported the other day that Coughlin was advising Rhule.

Interesting development, seeing as a lot of people thought Coughlin was forced to hire McAdoo.


Yeah, people thought Flowers was forced on Coughlin too, but Coughlin rushed to sign him after we finally got rid of him.
Did the Eagles pass?  
Sneakers O'toole : 1/16/2020 3:54 pm : link
I haven't been online much today.
Good  
PaulN : 1/16/2020 5:03 pm : link
For McAdoo, he di not get supported by ownership which lead to the undermining and his failure, he wanted Mahomes, ol dumb McAdoo, I hope he gets another opportunity.
he's gotta learn what not to do from someone  
MM_in_NYC : 1/16/2020 5:43 pm : link
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RE: Good  
an_idol_mind : 1/16/2020 6:01 pm : link
In comment 14782500 PaulN said:
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For McAdoo, he di not get supported by ownership which lead to the undermining and his failure, he wanted Mahomes, ol dumb McAdoo, I hope he gets another opportunity.


How McAdoo gets credit for wanting a guy whom the Giants were never in position to draft is beyond me.

Reese wanted Calvin Johnson back in 2008, too. Big deal.
McAdoo wanting..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2020 6:22 pm : link
Mahomes is one of the biggest myth's on this site, probably because it has been posted hundreds of times by the resident Redskins fan here.

The way it is made out, McAdoo wanted Mahomes come hell or high water and once he didn't get his way, he had no other choice but to tank the 2017 season in an epic pout.
Or maybe it’s directionally correct because Mac  
Jimmy Googs : 1/16/2020 9:12 pm : link
seemed to clearly see that he wasn’t going to win with Eli anymore.

Did anybody else in that building?
The OP lead me to think.  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/17/2020 3:50 am : link
"Matt Rhule interviews Ben McAdoo:"

"So Ben, whaddya think? Tell me, did I really dodge a bullet over there in the Jersey swamps?
RE: Or maybe it’s directionally correct because Mac  
an_idol_mind : 1/17/2020 7:47 am : link
In comment 14782782 Jimmy Googs said:
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seemed to clearly see that he wasn’t going to win with Eli anymore.

Did anybody else in that building?


Yeah...he so clearly saw it that he kept Eli as the starter right up until the team was eliminated, even though his job was in jeopardy.

And then he decided to keep Eli as the starter but bench him at the half, only ditching that plan when Eli pointed out that that was a shitty way to run a football team.

Meanwhile, both Reese and Mara had discussed seeing what they had in the other quarterbacks, so it's not like McAdoo was the only guy who knew they needed a replacement for Eli.

McAdoo wasn't some visionary held back by Eli, and he wasn't a martyr. He was a guy who was in over his head as a head coach. The only way that he was a victim was that Reese and Mara deserved an equal share of blame for putting him in that situation to begin with.
C'mon, they certainly did him dirty  
jcn56 : 1/17/2020 8:25 am : link
the guy had no other options at QB - Geno Smith and Davis Webb. When the season was already circling the drain, he wanted to see if a change at QB would make any difference, and offered Eli the opportunity to get benched in game to keep his streak alive.

That's something you know was discussed in the building, but they let McAdoo twist in the wind for it. In hindsight, he gets crap not so much for benching Eli, but what he benched him for, as if McAdoo was also responsible for the depth chart at QB.

Was he in over his head? Maybe. It sure seems like his first season went to his head and he got overconfident. Did he lose control of the whole thing? Sure - but look at what he had to contend with. An aging franchise legend who wasn't getting it done anymore. A GM past his prime. A roster that was dotted with headcases.

That Coughlin is suggesting they look at McAdoo in Carolina, where they have an open checkbook and a blank slate - should tell you that he wasn't forced on Coughlin, and that Coughlin himself thought enough of him to take him as OC in the first place.
I don't disagree that Mara is to blame for how it went down.  
an_idol_mind : 1/17/2020 8:52 am : link
He went from publicly declaring that he would allow McAdoo to finish the season to firing him and Reese three years later due to a PR disaster that he could have prevented with an ounce of foresight.

However, I don't buy the argument that McAdoo was this one voice of reason who saw that Eli was done. Reese had already commented on Eli being in the back nine of his career, and the team was keeping an eye out for a potential replacement--they just whiffed by grabbing the likes of Davis Webb instead of a true starter.

McAdoo deserves credit for getting a couple of very good years out of Eli when the offensive line was still garbage in 2014 and 2015, and he might well be a good offensive coordinator at some point in the future. But he was a disaster as a head coach. While Mara should have handled the fallout of 2017 way better, McAdoo was the guy who created that mess from beginning to end with his complete inability to communicate or control a locker room.
Three weeks,  
an_idol_mind : 1/17/2020 8:52 am : link
not three years, obviously.
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