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DaShotel13 : 1/16/2020 2:53 pm
oh Wow!!

https://twitter.com/Jomboy_?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
sorry, with proper link  
DaShotel13 : 1/16/2020 2:54 pm : link
here
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Bullshit  
Br00klyn : 1/16/2020 3:01 pm : link
That these players are facing zero consequences. Altuve and others should be suspended for a year
That was the first time I saw the Savages in the Box clip  
DC Gmen Fan : 1/16/2020 3:03 pm : link
my respect for Aaron Boone just jumped exponentially
RE: Bullshit  
Nine-Tails : 1/16/2020 3:05 pm : link
In comment 14782270 Br00klyn said:
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That these players are facing zero consequences. Altuve and others should be suspended for a year


As I said when the suspensions came out. Manfred blew it, it's a fuckin joke.
I’ve tried not to be a “sour grapes” Yankees fan  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2020 3:10 pm : link
but this truly is a disgrace. Altuve’s heading toward home after the HR off Chapman and frantically telling his teammates at home plate not to rip his shirt off. That clown is wired up like some mob informant. Their title really should be vacated and players held accountable.
RE: I’ve tried not to be a “sour grapes” Yankees fan  
DC Gmen Fan : 1/16/2020 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14782285 bceagle05 said:
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but this truly is a disgrace. Altuve’s heading toward home after the HR off Chapman and frantically telling his teammates at home plate not to rip his shirt off. That clown is wired up like some mob informant. Their title really should be vacated and players held accountable.



"Like"
true dat  
capone : 1/16/2020 3:12 pm : link
98% sure - a friend I trust said its true and he knows lots of players in houston
RE: I’ve tried not to be a “sour grapes” Yankees fan  
Danny Kanell : 1/16/2020 3:14 pm : link
In comment 14782285 bceagle05 said:
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but this truly is a disgrace. Altuve’s heading toward home after the HR off Chapman and frantically telling his teammates at home plate not to rip his shirt off. That clown is wired up like some mob informant. Their title really should be vacated and players held accountable.


Plus fucking one.
RE: true dat  
Greg from LI : 1/16/2020 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14782288 capone said:
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98% sure - a friend I trust said its true and he knows lots of players in houston


Since you've got an in with the Mariners - ever hear anything about Trout like what Scott Brosius' son was saying, that he uses HGH legally by claiming a thyroid condition?
A runner gets caught juicing after he won a race,  
MOOPS : 1/16/2020 3:20 pm : link
he loses his gold AND gets suspended. Same should apply here to the team that cheated.
MLB gave immunity to players  
Kevin999 : 1/16/2020 3:20 pm : link
if they told the truth. If this was not disclosed by the players and comes out now, could they not still be suspended?
RE: RE: I’ve tried not to be a “sour grapes” Yankees fan  
Mad Mike : 1/16/2020 3:23 pm : link
In comment 14782293 Danny Kanell said:
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Plus fucking one.

Two.

This is f'ing bs.
I never understood  
UConn4523 : 1/16/2020 3:31 pm : link
not being able to take away titles and awards. The record books won’t get hurt feelings if there’s no WS winner in a given year - same with individual awards.

Strip the title and just have no winner.
His hands at 0:26  
shyster : 1/16/2020 3:32 pm : link
I've never seen another player do that as he approaches home plate.
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UConn  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2020 3:33 pm : link
Do people really forget that Louisville won it all in '13? You can't erase what people saw & remember.
RE: true dat  
mfsd : 1/16/2020 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14782288 capone said:
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98% sure - a friend I trust said its true and he knows lots of players in houston


Appreciate your commentary, as always. I think you or someone comments after Altuve’s series winning home run in the ALCS this year that he was very resistant to his teammates pulling his shirt off while they celebrated
For those who think it is simply "part of the game"  
DCOrange : 1/16/2020 3:41 pm : link
First - the buzzer allegations are not new.

Second - my friend retired a only couple of years ago after being a middle reliever in the majors for 11 seasons. Before that he put in 8 seasons in the minors. A true baseball fan, player and lifer. You might not agree with his take but I'll go with someone who played the game for a long time over talking heads.

"This Astros stuff is absolutely embarrassing and the punishment for it will never fit the crime. As an ex-MLB player, I can tell you that you work your ass off to get to the league. You sacrifice countless hours away from your families and for teams/players to buy into this stuff is absolutely mind boggling. When my 12 year old asks me if any of the teams I played for did this it makes cringe. All I can say is 'no son the game has changed and so have people.' Shame on the players and anyone associated with this and selfishly should be banned from the game of baseball forever."
I also think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2020 3:41 pm : link
Jombo posted the buzzer theory shortly after the series win vs. the Yankees with close-ups of Altuve's batting glove
RE: I also think..  
jestersdead : 1/16/2020 3:44 pm : link
In comment 14782355 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Jombo posted the buzzer theory shortly after the series win vs. the Yankees with close-ups of Altuve's batting glove

Didn't he also have a theory about a sticker that was on the bat of a player? And the defense was that it was an MLB Authenticity sticker or something like that?
FMiC and jesters  
bigblue5611_2 : 1/16/2020 3:47 pm : link
I think this is what you're referring to?


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Yes..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2020 3:49 pm : link
that's it. Jomboy called that very early on
Jomboy will be in studio with Michael Kay at 5:30p.m.  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2020 3:49 pm : link
Michael Kay talked about the Altuve/shirt situation yesterday, so he's in the loop on things. Should be a fun conversation. There's also a Josh Reddick photo circulating with a wire taped to his chest in plain sight - there must've been technical difficulties when he was at the plate, because he was still terrible.
RE: For those who think it is simply  
beatrixkiddo : 1/16/2020 3:50 pm : link
In comment 14782354 DCOrange said:
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First - the buzzer allegations are not new.

Second - my friend retired a only couple of years ago after being a middle reliever in the majors for 11 seasons. Before that he put in 8 seasons in the minors. A true baseball fan, player and lifer. You might not agree with his take but I'll go with someone who played the game for a long time over talking heads.

"This Astros stuff is absolutely embarrassing and the punishment for it will never fit the crime. As an ex-MLB player, I can tell you that you work your ass off to get to the league. You sacrifice countless hours away from your families and for teams/players to buy into this stuff is absolutely mind boggling. When my 12 year old asks me if any of the teams I played for did this it makes cringe. All I can say is 'no son the game has changed and so have people.' Shame on the players and anyone associated with this and selfishly should be banned from the game of baseball forever."


I completely agree. It strips all merit away from the game, players need to be held accountable too. I agree either he other poster, strip them of their title, their rings, and suspend the players, I would also erase their stats from all years that this was going on to hold some integrity to their career numbers especially those that may be HOF bound. This needs to be a mark that brands them and ensures this shit doesn’t happen ever again. These players can cry whatever they like but they know what they did was wrong. They should have to pay a price.
Here's the Reddick wire...  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2020 3:52 pm : link
One of his family members tweeted it was confetti, but Jomboy posted a photo of him later in the locker room with the tape in the same spot, minus the wire.

The last three AL pennant winners...  
Dunedin81 : 1/16/2020 3:53 pm : link
and two of the last three WS champions are implicated. It's a huge scandal.
RE: Bullshit  
bw in dc : 1/16/2020 3:54 pm : link
In comment 14782270 Br00klyn said:
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That these players are facing zero consequences. Altuve and others should be suspended for a year


It's insulting.

That MLB is so terrified of the union that they redact all the players names is purely cowardice.
Yeah, it is incredible  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2020 3:57 pm : link
that guys like Bregman and Altuve will just take the field on opening day next year like nothing happened. They're still a title contender, and may find a manager better than Hinch anyway. No real punishment on the field.
Cora alluding to the fact the Beltran brought  
jlukes : 1/16/2020 3:58 pm : link
His techniques to the Yankees
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Yankees  
DaShotel13 : 1/16/2020 4:06 pm : link
As a huge Yankees fan, I'm reticent to get too excited about our rivals getting caught here. I'm not saying the Yankees are using buzzers but I hope there isn't more that comes out that implicates the bombers as well...
amazing how silent Verlander is.  
BigBlue2112 : 1/16/2020 4:15 pm : link
He's been outspoken with every other baseball issue in the last few years...
RE: I also think..  
section125 : 1/16/2020 4:19 pm : link
In comment 14782355 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Jombo posted the buzzer theory shortly after the series win vs. the Yankees with close-ups of Altuve's batting glove


Yes he did. I remember also people commenting on Altuve trying to hide something under his shirt.
RE: Yankees  
Eli Wilson : 1/16/2020 4:29 pm : link
In comment 14782403 DaShotel13 said:
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As a huge Yankees fan, I'm reticent to get too excited about our rivals getting caught here. I'm not saying the Yankees are using buzzers but I hope there isn't more that comes out that implicates the bombers as well...


If they're using them, then someone needs to fix Gary Sanchez's and Stanton's because those guys swing at crap way out of the strike zone fairly often.
The players were granted immunity as long as they told the truth.  
BlueAgave : 1/16/2020 4:30 pm : link
MLB looked to come down hard on them if they found out they were lying. The players had a huge incentive to just tell the truth. 60 or 70 players were interviewed, so they had a large enough group that if someone didn't tell the truth, they'could come down hard on them based on so many other player interviews.

That's the workaround with the MLBPA. The coverup is worse than the lie. We've just seen this with Domingo German lying about DV allegations. That is why Carlos Beltran was the only player named in the report. It is coming out he lied to the Mets in private as well.

So we are led to believe Cora and Beltran were the ringleaders. Hinch and Luhnow had the power to stop them, yet did not. Crane gets to walk away clean as the owner of the whole mess.
Maybe it's too late for suspensions, but it seems like mlb really  
Mad Mike : 1/16/2020 4:37 pm : link
should do something.

RE: The players were granted immunity as long as they told the truth.  
jlukes : 1/16/2020 5:02 pm : link
In comment 14782458 BlueAgave said:
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MLB looked to come down hard on them if they found out they were lying. The players had a huge incentive to just tell the truth. 60 or 70 players were interviewed, so they had a large enough group that if someone didn't tell the truth, they'could come down hard on them based on so many other player interviews.

That's the workaround with the MLBPA. The coverup is worse than the lie. We've just seen this with Domingo German lying about DV allegations. That is why Carlos Beltran was the only player named in the report. It is coming out he lied to the Mets in private as well.

So we are led to believe Cora and Beltran were the ringleaders. Hinch and Luhnow had the power to stop them, yet did not. Crane gets to walk away clean as the owner of the whole mess.


Carlos Beltran was the only player named because he is no longer part of the MLBPA.

Commish is a fraud and scared of the MLBPA
Just wanted to set the record straight  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2020 5:07 pm : link
on the Reddick photo I posted above. Upon closer inspection, it does look like a chain he's wearing with confetti over it. I was skeptical because Reddick has been terrible offensively in these postseasons.
Well this story seems like it’s going to go on and on  
jpkmets : 1/16/2020 5:29 pm : link
As much as I liked the hire, I’m glad the Mets are no longer involved with this sordid affair.
RE: Just wanted to set the record straight  
DCOrange : 1/16/2020 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14782504 bceagle05 said:
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on the Reddick photo I posted above. Upon closer inspection, it does look like a chain he's wearing with confetti over it. I was skeptical because Reddick has been terrible offensively in these postseasons.


Jomboy seemed to quietly admit he was wrong about that photo on Michael Kay.
RE: RE: Just wanted to set the record straight  
jlukes : 1/16/2020 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14782619 DCOrange said:
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In comment 14782504 bceagle05 said:


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on the Reddick photo I posted above. Upon closer inspection, it does look like a chain he's wearing with confetti over it. I was skeptical because Reddick has been terrible offensively in these postseasons.



Jomboy seemed to quietly admit he was wrong about that photo on Michael Kay.


Yup. Also admitted he was washed wrong on Twitter
as a baseball fan  
RasputinPrime : 1/16/2020 7:06 pm : link
I want all of this garbage handled behind closed doors. In the age of rabid social media that seems virtually impossible and the game suffers as a result.

I would LOVE to hear from Verlander though.

RE: amazing how silent Verlander is.  
Nine-Tails : 1/16/2020 7:47 pm : link
In comment 14782430 BigBlue2112 said:
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He's been outspoken with every other baseball issue in the last few years...


He's one of the biggest hypocrites in the league. Oh
Yeah Verlander has been completely exposed as a fraud.  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2020 7:52 pm : link
How can anyone take any of these guys seriously? Bregman never shuts up, Correa with his "apex predator" shit - bunch of fucking frauds. Hopefully Buck and Smoltz will stop kissing Altuve's ass now too.
A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 1/16/2020 7:57 pm : link
1) I hate the cop out some people use that sign stealing is part of the game. That is true, but not the issue. The issue is that they used cameras and possibly other technology to steal signs and possibly to relay that to the batter. This is NOT part of the game.

2) MLB is an ebarrassment. But, I never expected anything to happen to players. I hadn't thought of Beltran being the only retired player and thus the only player mentioned by name. My opinion will not change if the Yankees are implicated. Guilty players should have some form of discipline. So should willfully knowing executives.

3) I seriously hope the Yankees aren't found to have done the same. I honestly don't take Cora's parting shot about Beltran and the Yankees very seriously.
RE: RE: true dat  
capone : 1/16/2020 7:58 pm : link
In comment 14782302 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14782288 capone said:


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98% sure - a friend I trust said its true and he knows lots of players in houston



Since you've got an in with the Mariners - ever hear anything about Trout like what Scott Brosius' son was saying, that he uses HGH legally by claiming a thyroid condition?


My dodgers guy Was formally with the Angels and he told me that two years ago...His info has always been spot on
I wonder if that’s why they don’t market Trout at all  
UConn4523 : 1/16/2020 8:07 pm : link
probably a stretch but who knows
Pete Rose gets banned for life for betting on his own team,  
732NYG : 1/16/2020 8:10 pm : link
and Altuve and Bregman will probably get a stern talking to, if that.
Not everything is about Pete fucking Rose  
Dunedin81 : 1/16/2020 8:36 pm : link
It's ridiculous. He remains banned because he is unrepentant and because he has never addressed his gambling problem. He hocks autographs for gambling money even now.
Beltran is not the only retired player  
Dunedin81 : 1/16/2020 8:39 pm : link
McCann is retired, Evan Gattis might as well be. He was probably named because he lied publicly (and maybe privately), in addition to being retired and thus no longer subject to MLBPA protection.
I am a twitter illiterate so apologies  
bhill410 : 1/16/2020 8:41 pm : link
But is the person breaking this buzzer stuff “beltrans niece” or jomboy or both? If the fake niece is breaking stuff isn’t that account also implicating the Yankees or was that a different fake niece account. (I am beyond confused). Also who the hell is jomboy and why does he have inside information?
Pretty sure you can't just  
pjcas18 : 1/16/2020 8:43 pm : link
"claim" a thyroid condition and get HgH. There are very few conditions where HgH would be prescribed and I'd be willing to bet MLB is pretty strict about monitoring them. If Trout is taking HgH, my guess is he's not "claiming" a thyroid condition.

Sounds sketchy to say the least.

lots of scorched earth revelations will probably come out in the next few weeks (and probably should) and with them a lot of lies (I'd be hesitant to just believe all of the claims).

RE: I am a twitter illiterate so apologies  
Dunedin81 : 1/16/2020 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14782751 bhill410 said:
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But is the person breaking this buzzer stuff “beltrans niece” or jomboy or both? If the fake niece is breaking stuff isn’t that account also implicating the Yankees or was that a different fake niece account. (I am beyond confused). Also who the hell is jomboy and why does he have inside information?


Jomboy is one of the Twitter superfans, he does a podcast too. He was the one who broke down videos of the Astros banging on shit before breaking pitches
RE: Pete Rose gets banned for life for betting on his own team,  
Eman11 : 1/16/2020 10:25 pm : link
In comment 14782714 732NYG said:
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and Altuve and Bregman will probably get a stern talking to, if that.


You say it like betting on his own team isn't a big deal. I hope you do realize how bad that is.

If he did only bet on his team what exactly does that say to his bookie on the days he didn't bet? I know if I had that info I sure as hell would be betting on his opponents on those days.
I didn't think much of this until i saw this  
NJ_GIANTS : 1/16/2020 10:29 pm : link
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7ZM5PlFf88/?igshid=396incks009p

Its quite obvious in the photo something is on his right shoulder..

They should all be banned.. managers and players... clean house..

Championships should be vacated.
Link  
NJ_GIANTS : 1/16/2020 10:29 pm : link
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What a brutal week for MLB.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/16/2020 10:39 pm : link
The Astro's are completely buried. Red Sox look awful, too.
RE: Not everything is about Pete fucking Rose  
Danny Kanell : 1/16/2020 10:50 pm : link
In comment 14782742 Dunedin81 said:
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It's ridiculous. He remains banned because he is unrepentant and because he has never addressed his gambling problem. He hocks autographs for gambling money even now.


Thank you.
RE: RE: The players were granted immunity as long as they told the truth.  
BlueAgave : 1/16/2020 11:44 pm : link
In comment 14782499 jlukes said:
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In comment 14782458 BlueAgave said:


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MLB looked to come down hard on them if they found out they were lying. The players had a huge incentive to just tell the truth. 60 or 70 players were interviewed, so they had a large enough group that if someone didn't tell the truth, they'could come down hard on them based on so many other player interviews.

That's the workaround with the MLBPA. The coverup is worse than the lie. We've just seen this with Domingo German lying about DV allegations. That is why Carlos Beltran was the only player named in the report. It is coming out he lied to the Mets in private as well.

So we are led to believe Cora and Beltran were the ringleaders. Hinch and Luhnow had the power to stop them, yet did not. Crane gets to walk away clean as the owner of the whole mess.



Carlos Beltran was the only player named because he is no longer part of the MLBPA.

Commish is a fraud and scared of the MLBPA


He should be scared of MLBPA. I'm not sure how to approach punishing players for sign stealing that would be confirmed by the FBI, not thrown out of court, and/or result in a union grievance handled by an arbitrator.

If you think it is bad now, imagine the headlines about a sign stealing case being laughed out of court, or the arbitration cases being kept confidential yet leaks get out.
Pete should be in the hall as a player  
NJ_GIANTS : 1/16/2020 11:56 pm : link
So should clemens and even bonds.

RE: RE: true dat  
BlueAgave : 1/17/2020 12:10 am : link
In comment 14782302 Greg from LI said:
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98% sure - a friend I trust said its true and he knows lots of players in houston



Since you've got an in with the Mariners - ever hear anything about Trout like what Scott Brosius' son was saying, that he uses HGH legally by claiming a thyroid condition?


HGH is not used for any thyroid condition.
RE: RE: RE: true dat  
capone : 1/17/2020 12:14 am : link
In comment 14782952 BlueAgave said:
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In comment 14782288 capone said:


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98% sure - a friend I trust said its true and he knows lots of players in houston



Since you've got an in with the Mariners - ever hear anything about Trout like what Scott Brosius' son was saying, that he uses HGH legally by claiming a thyroid condition?



HGH is not used for any thyroid condition.


To be clear I am saying that in spring training 2018 said he “knew” trout used hgh ... he never indicated it was prescribed for any particular condition .. have known this guy for 25 years ... he’s batting 1000 on mlb info
RE: as a baseball fan  
Carson53 : 1/17/2020 8:52 am : link
In comment 14782649 RasputinPrime said:
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I want all of this garbage handled behind closed doors. In the age of rabid social media that seems virtually impossible and the game suffers as a result.

I would LOVE to hear from Verlander though.

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You see with Justin, he is very good at offering up unsolicited opinions,
last year was about the baseballs for example.
Actually that was the second year in a row he complained about them, you see even though he won the CY Young,
he did allow the most HR's in the AL last year I believe. The previous year, he allowed a lot of HR's as well,
so it is SELF-SERVING for him to open up his yap!
You won't hear unsolicited opinions now, when he is asked
in ST or whenever, he eventually will talk.
One more thing...  
Carson53 : 1/17/2020 9:02 am : link
time to get electronics out for hitters between at-bats
as well. A lot of hitters use that, I know J.D. Martinez
does that a lot, part of his process.
He's a great hitter, so I am just using his name as an example.
They can do it after games or the next day,
but not during games now is the way MLB should go with this?

Instant replay is here to stay, so I guess they are going
to have to allow the video guys to check for instant replays on challenges by the manager.
It is the 'holding up the hand' crap by managers,
to have people wait around that should go as well IMHO.
Remember the Black Sox  
5BowlsSoon : 1/17/2020 10:45 am : link
Take this championship ring away from those cheaters.
RE: RE: RE: RE: true dat  
Mike in NJ : 1/17/2020 11:57 am : link
In comment 14782953 capone said:
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In comment 14782288 capone said:


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98% sure - a friend I trust said its true and he knows lots of players in houston



Since you've got an in with the Mariners - ever hear anything about Trout like what Scott Brosius' son was saying, that he uses HGH legally by claiming a thyroid condition?



HGH is not used for any thyroid condition.



To be clear I am saying that in spring training 2018 said he “knew” trout used hgh ... he never indicated it was prescribed for any particular condition .. have known this guy for 25 years ... he’s batting 1000 on mlb info


To add to this, I "know a guy" that has been a part of both NY organizations, as well as other teams in the league, and he had actually mentioned the Trout HGH stuff several years ago. He didn't say it was related to a Thyroid condition, but did say that there was a supposed medical reason that he was taking it.

I had actually kind of blown it off as bullshit/forgotten about it, but kind of interesting to see that someone else has heard the same from probably a completely different source.
RE: A few thoughts  
bw in dc : 1/17/2020 12:19 pm : link
In comment 14782702 Matt M. said:
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MLB is an ebarrassment. But, I never expected anything to happen to players. I hadn't thought of Beltran being the only retired player and thus the only player mentioned by name. My opinion will not change if the Yankees are implicated. Guilty players should have some form of discipline. So should willfully knowing executives.


It's unconscionable that the players were part of these cheating scheme, and reaped the benefits, are not being suspended.

So what if the MLBPA is the most powerful union on earth. BFD. You still have to go after them. What's happened here is essentially preferential treatment.

They are basically the high school kids who got a copy of the SAT, benefited greatly, but avoid trouble because they weren't the kids who actually stole the SAT test and answers.

It is such horse manure...
Beltran  
mdthedream : 1/17/2020 1:41 pm : link
isn't retired he is was a manager and that is the difference. They don't care about McCain.
The players are going after each other in a downward spiral  
BlueAgave : 1/17/2020 3:30 pm : link
of what-about-isms. That video of Altuve crossing home plate and protecting his jersey is going to keep getting replayed. Jack McDowell is calling out Tony LaRussa for stealing signs over 30 years ago. Mike Trout is going to end up having to give a "no comment" on HGH use. You have people throughout the baseball community asking for all involved to come forward. I don't think anyone disagrees that the players involved need to be punished.

This isn't going away. Wait until the season starts and Astros home games focus on the visiting team's dugout, the pitcher on the mound, and players on the field for reactions to home runs or basically anything. That is when this is really going to get fucked up.



RE: Cora alluding to the fact the Beltran brought  
islander1 : 1/17/2020 4:19 pm : link
In comment 14782388 jlukes said:
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His techniques to the Yankees Link - ( New Window )


Holy shit.
RE: I didn't think much of this until i saw this  
islander1 : 1/17/2020 4:21 pm : link
In comment 14782878 NJ_GIANTS said:
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B7ZM5PlFf88/?igshid=396incks009p

Its quite obvious in the photo something is on his right shoulder..

They should all be banned.. managers and players... clean house..

Championships should be vacated.


Holy shit part 2. This video is a lot better than the first one.
Exactly.  
BlueHurricane : 1/17/2020 4:30 pm : link
Anyone doubting that Altwofoot was wearing a buzzer needs to watch the NJGiants link above.
CC seems pretty upset about there revelations  
xman : 1/17/2020 5:04 pm : link
Cora's insinuation that Beltran techniques were used by the Yankees doesn't jive
Is Eli  
XBRONX : 1/17/2020 5:07 pm : link
getting some buzzers for sale.
People are desperate for the Yankees to be implicated in this.  
bceagle05 : 1/17/2020 5:12 pm : link
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RE: People are desperate for the Yankees to be implicated in this.  
BigBlueShock : 1/17/2020 5:51 pm : link
In comment 14783906 bceagle05 said:
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I was just going to say the same thing. I’ll tell you what though, if the Yankees were cheating they absolutely sucked at it. Most of the team struck out like it was their job and most of the time they looked like they’d never seen a breaking ball before. Compare that to the Astros who somehow went from a strikeout heavy team in 2016 to having incredibly good strikeout ratios in 2017. Just one season and the turnaround was astounding. Team wide.
Yeah, the big storyline after that ALCS  
bceagle05 : 1/17/2020 6:30 pm : link
was the Yankees striking out too much while the Astros put the ball in play. The baseball purists were waxing poetic, and understandably so (at the time). What a bunch of frauds.
This tweet is great  
BH28 : 1/18/2020 10:48 am : link
Not sure if it's been posted before
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RE: The players are going after each other in a downward spiral  
bw in dc : 1/18/2020 11:52 am : link
In comment 14783758 BlueAgave said:
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of what-about-isms. That video of Altuve crossing home plate and protecting his jersey is going to keep getting replayed. Jack McDowell is calling out Tony LaRussa for stealing signs over 30 years ago. Mike Trout is going to end up having to give a "no comment" on HGH use. You have people throughout the baseball community asking for all involved to come forward. I don't think anyone disagrees that the players involved need to be punished.

This isn't going away. Wait until the season starts and Astros home games focus on the visiting team's dugout, the pitcher on the mound, and players on the field for reactions to home runs or basically anything. That is when this is really going to get fucked up.




It shouldn't go away until every player from those Houston teams is suspended. And if that means Houston ends up this season with mostly minor league players this year, so be it.

I find it incredible that people buy this bullsh-t that Manfred is selling that he couldn't name players.

What a message - we caught you cheating, players, but just keep playing and collecting those big checks.

MLB continues to embarrass itself.
RE: RE: People are desperate for the Yankees to be implicated in this.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/18/2020 2:15 pm : link
In comment 14783943 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 14783906 bceagle05 said:


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I was just going to say the same thing. I’ll tell you what though, if the Yankees were cheating they absolutely sucked at it. Most of the team struck out like it was their job and most of the time they looked like they’d never seen a breaking ball before. Compare that to the Astros who somehow went from a strikeout heavy team in 2016 to having incredibly good strikeout ratios in 2017. Just one season and the turnaround was astounding. Team wide.


"OK Sanchez, Judge, DiDi and Gardy. You're our hedge here. The rest of us can be fucking Savages in the Box 100% of the time - I'm looking at you Gleyber. You guys need to swing wildly at some bad pitches, especially at home. Throw in some theatrics here or there, too!!"
Didn't the Nats win every game against the Stros  
xman : 1/18/2020 2:48 pm : link
in the Stros park last WS?
2017 Home vs Away splits  
jestersdead : 1/18/2020 3:18 pm : link
Altuve: .472 vs .173
Correa: .371 vs .211
McCain: .300 vs .037

There’s a picture going around on Instagram of if
Did anyone hear Bobby Valentine's take on it?  
EricJ : 1/18/2020 3:46 pm : link
His take is MUCH different and possibly surprising to hear...

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RE: 2017 Home vs Away splits  
Eman11 : 1/18/2020 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14784865 jestersdead said:
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Altuve: .472 vs .173
Correa: .371 vs .211
McCain: .300 vs .037

There’s a picture going around on Instagram of if


Throw in how they went from one of the teams who struck out the most to one who struck out the least in one season and it's clear as day how much they benefitted from this.
RE: 2017 Home vs Away splits  
jpkmets : 1/18/2020 4:20 pm : link
In comment 14784865 jestersdead said:
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Altuve: .472 vs .173
Correa: .371 vs .211
McCain: .300 vs .037

There’s a picture going around on Instagram of if


The picture is wrong for Altuve (not bothering to check the rest). He hit .311 at home and .381 on the road in 75 or more games in each split.

No idea where the reported splits on this post are supposed to have come from but it’s not the 2017 regular season..


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Correa also wrong  
jpkmets : 1/18/2020 4:24 pm : link
.333 home [155 ops+] .301 road (146 ops+]
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Mccann  
jpkmets : 1/18/2020 4:26 pm : link
.211 home , .266 road

So, whatever those splits are, they are not player’ home away for 2017 in that Instagram photo.
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Been doing some reading cause the IG  
jpkmets : 1/18/2020 4:39 pm : link
Pictures splits didn’t even look possible for the full season.

Looks like this are for the 2017 playoffs. Not sure how much to take from such a small sample size. Certainly the full season splits didn’t sho much in the way of a home bias. Here the link to the article I found but I can’t get playoff splits on baseball reference, so I don’t know where I could get the data to confirm it.
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there is an Astros fan fest going on or something  
Matt in SGS : 1/18/2020 4:55 pm : link
and Altuve and Bregman are there. If you thought you'd get remorse from them, that's not happening. They are both complete pricks. Altuve in particular saying he "feels bad" for Hinch and saying they are going back to the World Series. Defiant in the face of facts that MLB found them (and with him a major player in it) guilty in 2017 and I'm sure more about 2019 will come out.

Anyway, the Astros will set a record for most batters HBP this year. You are going to see guys bury pitches in his and Bregman's ribs. They are trying to play the underdog role, which doesn't work when no one likes you because you fucking got caught cheating. Their first trip into Yankee Stadium is going to be like the Christians to the lions.
Crap  
bitterblue : 1/21/2020 12:12 am : link
The Astros don't come to the Stadium until Sept 21-24. I wish it was in April or May.
Matt  
mitch300 : 1/21/2020 1:43 am : link
I was thinking the same thing. I expect them to get hit at least once per series.
The Astros PR department has been utter shit...  
Dunedin81 : 1/21/2020 11:16 am : link
since the scandal involving the VP and the SI reporter. There's no good way to handle this, but in terms of making the best of a bad situation this wasn't it.
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