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Route 9 : 1/16/2020 3:52 pm
The hot streak continues tonight. NYR going on a 38 game winning streak to wrap up to the season!!

Let's go Rangers. Georgiev in net tonight. Make things happen.
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thanks -  
Del Shofner : 1/16/2020 8:56 pm : link
good game so far. Rangers did well killing a couple of penalties in a row.
TDA!  
Anakim : 1/16/2020 9:09 pm : link
BOOOOOOOOOOM
..  
jrapps : 1/16/2020 9:13 pm : link
Funny how times change. Rangers playing like this is their Stanley cup.
RE: ..  
Anakim : 1/16/2020 9:18 pm : link
In comment 14782784 jrapps said:
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Funny how times change. Rangers playing like this is their Stanley cup.


LOL. We're not even playing especially well. We're a Jekyll & Hyde team
Trouba  
Percy : 1/16/2020 9:23 pm : link
Looks useless out there.
embellishment?  
Del Shofner : 1/16/2020 9:26 pm : link
f*ck that
knew that was coming  
Del Shofner : 1/16/2020 9:26 pm : link
bad refereeing
RE: knew that was coming  
Mike in NY : 1/16/2020 9:27 pm : link
In comment 14782801 Del Shofner said:
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bad refereeing


These are the same refs that think cross checking someone into the goalpost is only a minor penalty
^^^^  
Del Shofner : 1/16/2020 9:29 pm : link
fair enough, I thought that was a bad call too
Well the refs decided this game  
MetsAreBack : 1/16/2020 9:30 pm : link
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BWAHAHAHAH  
Anakim : 1/16/2020 9:43 pm : link
FUCK THESE REFS
Kreider!  
Del Shofner : 1/16/2020 9:43 pm : link
.
Panarin is a wizard  
Del Shofner : 1/16/2020 9:44 pm : link
out there
NICE WIN  
Anakim : 1/16/2020 9:44 pm : link
Great game
RE: Well the refs decided this game  
jrapps : 1/16/2020 9:45 pm : link
In comment 14782806 MetsAreBack said:
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They sure did!
We Own New York  
MetsAreBack : 1/16/2020 9:48 pm : link
Always have, always will
RE: NICE WIN  
Percy : 1/16/2020 9:48 pm : link
In comment 14782824 Anakim said:
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Great game

It was. Rangers played an amazing game. And Trouba: soon as I made my wisecrack he comes up with three pretty good plays. Isles do not look impressive.
the refs are at least even-handed if  
Del Shofner : 1/16/2020 9:48 pm : link
both sets of fans want to kill them after the game
Good game  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2020 9:48 pm : link
Shame to see it decided by the refs instead of the players.
RE: RE: Well the refs decided this game  
Anakim : 1/16/2020 9:50 pm : link
In comment 14782828 jrapps said:
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They sure did!


LOL. Not our fault Brassard took a mind-numbingly dumb penalty
Hey, Islander fans...  
Route 9 : 1/16/2020 9:52 pm : link
Two games in a row. CHOMPED!
RE: We Own New York  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2020 9:53 pm : link
In comment 14782830 MetsAreBack said:
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Always have, always will


Weird take seeing the record the past few years between these teams and the current standings.
although Panarin only got the 'hockey assist'  
Del Shofner : 1/16/2020 9:57 pm : link
on Kreider's goal, I thought his composure under pressure was what led to the goal. Can't say how impressed I am with this guy's style of play.
A lot of talk from the son  
Route 9 : 1/16/2020 9:59 pm : link
Can't even complete the most simplest tasks by topping an awful Ranger team.

Now shut the fuck up, turn off the lights and get to BED!! Get off my thread!!

-Dad
RE: RE: We Own New York  
MetsAreBack : 1/16/2020 11:04 pm : link
In comment 14782842 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 14782830 MetsAreBack said:


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Always have, always will



Weird take seeing the record the past few years between these teams and the current standings.


Yawn. Get past the second round for the first time in 40 years and then let’s chat.
Love taking a final shit on that dump.  
Davisian : 1/16/2020 11:42 pm : link
Fort Rangers never lose.

Suck it fish

Georgie just has the Isles number  
Vanzetti : 1/17/2020 12:25 am : link
One of those hockey things you can’t explain but it is just the way it is
Had to watch the Islander Broadcast  
blueblood'11 : 1/17/2020 8:21 am : link
Butch Goring is extremely annoying. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the Rangers had the better of the play from the second period on yet, all he wanted to talk about was how well the Islanders were in control and dominated the play. really? And in a lot of cases the Rangers were lucky.

As far as the cross check on Brassard he whacked Jesper Fast twice. The ref gave him the benefit of the doubt on the first, which I had no problem with one, but when he hit Fast the second time he went down hard face first and just missed face planting into the boards. Conversely Goring conveniently said nothing when Kreider was kneed and Panarin was called for embellishment which was a bullshit call and led to the Islander tying goal.
Another really entertainlng hign intensity game  
arniefez : 1/17/2020 8:45 am : link
too bad the officials decided to over shadow the players in the 3rd period and decide the game on both sides.
RE: Had to watch the Islander Broadcast  
JayBinQueens : 1/17/2020 8:51 am : link
In comment 14783047 blueblood'11 said:
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Butch Goring is extremely annoying. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the Rangers had the better of the play from the second period on yet, all he wanted to talk about was how well the Islanders were in control and dominated the play. really? And in a lot of cases the Rangers were lucky.

As far as the cross check on Brassard he whacked Jesper Fast twice. The ref gave him the benefit of the doubt on the first, which I had no problem with one, but when he hit Fast the second time he went down hard face first and just missed face planting into the boards. Conversely Goring conveniently said nothing when Kreider was kneed and Panarin was called for embellishment which was a bullshit call and led to the Islander tying goal.

Butch actually said Boychuk got away with one there and it was a stupid play on his part
Was a good NYI/NYR hockey game  
Metnut : 1/17/2020 8:58 am : link
Islanders have to match the intensity of the Rangers (this game is NYR's Stanley Cup, after all, since playoffs don't appear in the cards again this year for them). Analytics put Isles up over 60% EG but scoreboard rules at the end of the day. NYR's goalie looks like a keeper (yuck, another one for them?).

Refs shouldn't have called the late penalty but Brassard should know better than to put himself in that position and Isles could, of course, have killed it.

Maybe third time will be a charm next week? Isles have games vs WSH and @Car coming up, so they'll they are at risk of getting into a bit of a slide here and falling closer to the wild card teams rather than home ice.
RE: Had to watch the Islander Broadcast  
Metnut : 1/17/2020 9:00 am : link
In comment 14783047 blueblood'11 said:
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Butch Goring is extremely annoying. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the Rangers had the better of the play from the second period on yet, all he wanted to talk about was how well the Islanders were in control and dominated the play. really? And in a lot of cases the Rangers were lucky.



Butch is a grade A homer. I can imagine how he'd drive an NYR fan nuts while watching the game. I respect everything he's done for NYI but wish we had a better color guy.

Butch is a cool dude though. One time was tailgating at the Coliseum with a large group of friends and Butch pulls up in a Lexus SUV and had a beer with us and took pictures. We totally unsolicited and random.
RE: RE: Had to watch the Islander Broadcast  
ColHowPepper : 1/17/2020 9:56 am : link
In comment 14783099 Metnut said:
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In comment 14783047 blueblood'11 said:
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Butch Goring is extremely annoying. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the Rangers had the better of the play from the second period on yet, all he wanted to talk about was how well the Islanders were in control and dominated the play. really? And in a lot of cases the Rangers were lucky.

Butch is a grade A homer....
Not sure it was Goring or pbp guy, but the comment toward the end of the 2nd was how the Rangers had the better of the play by far in the period.
RE: Was a good NYI/NYR hockey game  
giants_10_88 : 1/17/2020 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14783091 Metnut said:
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Islanders have to match the intensity of the Rangers (this game is NYR's Stanley Cup, after all, since playoffs don't appear in the cards again this year for them). Analytics put Isles up over 60% EG but scoreboard rules at the end of the day. NYR's goalie looks like a keeper (yuck, another one for them?).

Refs shouldn't have called the late penalty but Brassard should know better than to put himself in that position and Isles could, of course, have killed it.

Maybe third time will be a charm next week? Isles have games vs WSH and @Car coming up, so they'll they are at risk of getting into a bit of a slide here and falling closer to the wild card teams rather than home ice.


As a Rangers fan I agree this is our Stanley cup but I think we have the brighter future. The isles don't have the offensive talent to be true contenders. And they've struck out three times trying to keep/get some (Tavares, Stone, Panarin) and likely aren't bad enough to get a gamebreaker in the draft. Rangers on the other hand have the potential for plenty of high end skill with kravstov, Chytil, Kakko, this years draft pick to go with Zibby, Panarin, Deangelo and Fox.
6 points out with 2 in hand  
Giants in 07 : 1/17/2020 12:11 pm : link
And 9 days off next week.

I think a playoff series would do wonders for this squad in terms of experience.

On a macro level, the Rangers will be ascending as the Caps/Penguins descend in the next few years. This rebuild has gone perfectly so far.
RE: RE: Was a good NYI/NYR hockey game  
Metnut : 1/17/2020 12:23 pm : link
In comment 14783395 giants_10_88 said:
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In comment 14783091 Metnut said:


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Islanders have to match the intensity of the Rangers (this game is NYR's Stanley Cup, after all, since playoffs don't appear in the cards again this year for them). Analytics put Isles up over 60% EG but scoreboard rules at the end of the day. NYR's goalie looks like a keeper (yuck, another one for them?).

Refs shouldn't have called the late penalty but Brassard should know better than to put himself in that position and Isles could, of course, have killed it.

Maybe third time will be a charm next week? Isles have games vs WSH and @Car coming up, so they'll they are at risk of getting into a bit of a slide here and falling closer to the wild card teams rather than home ice.



As a Rangers fan I agree this is our Stanley cup but I think we have the brighter future. The isles don't have the offensive talent to be true contenders. And they've struck out three times trying to keep/get some (Tavares, Stone, Panarin) and likely aren't bad enough to get a gamebreaker in the draft. Rangers on the other hand have the potential for plenty of high end skill with kravstov, Chytil, Kakko, this years draft pick to go with Zibby, Panarin, Deangelo and Fox.


Yea, I was just poking fun since NYR fans used to use the "this is their Stanley Cup" as an excuse everytime a bad NYI team beat an NYR team ahead in the standings.

We'll see about the future. NYR absolutely have a promising rebuild but converting that into a contending team can be tricky. I think they've already given our a poor contract to Trouba. IMO, they should push hard for the playoffs next year. Panarin is so good that you don't want to waste any years from him.

Islanders absolutely need additional scoring (either acquired externally or via an internal breakout from a player) to contend this year. Whether they want to make a move for a rental type or not remains to be seen.

With Trotz locked up long term, the Islanders "floor" appears to be pretty high and that says a lot about their future IMO. We've seen time and time again in the NHL that the best team doesn't always win a cup. Put a program together that can make the playoffs every year and you're bound to go on a run at some point if you're well coached.
RE: RE: Was a good NYI/NYR hockey game  
ShockNRoll : 1/17/2020 12:23 pm : link
In comment 14783395 giants_10_88 said:
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In comment 14783091 Metnut said:


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Islanders have to match the intensity of the Rangers (this game is NYR's Stanley Cup, after all, since playoffs don't appear in the cards again this year for them). Analytics put Isles up over 60% EG but scoreboard rules at the end of the day. NYR's goalie looks like a keeper (yuck, another one for them?).

Refs shouldn't have called the late penalty but Brassard should know better than to put himself in that position and Isles could, of course, have killed it.

Maybe third time will be a charm next week? Isles have games vs WSH and @Car coming up, so they'll they are at risk of getting into a bit of a slide here and falling closer to the wild card teams rather than home ice.



As a Rangers fan I agree this is our Stanley cup but I think we have the brighter future. The isles don't have the offensive talent to be true contenders. And they've struck out three times trying to keep/get some (Tavares, Stone, Panarin) and likely aren't bad enough to get a gamebreaker in the draft. Rangers on the other hand have the potential for plenty of high end skill with kravstov, Chytil, Kakko, this years draft pick to go with Zibby, Panarin, Deangelo and Fox.


I disagree about this being the Rangers' proverbial Stanley Cup. They're only 6 points out with 2 games in hand, and their next game is against the team they're chasing for that spot. That said, this year's success is not as important as next year and the year after when they can truly compete for a Cup again. In the meantime, Panarin and Zibanejad are good enough to carry the team maybe to a playoff spot. It's just a matter of what they decide to do with Kreider and Tony. I would love for them to find a way to keep both, but I don't see that happening. It's a shame that Staal, Smith, Skjei, and Henrik are eating up so much cap space with so little production in return. Because of those contracts, they may have to lose guys like Tony, Kreider, Fast, Georgiev, Strome.
Also, personally,  
Metnut : 1/17/2020 12:24 pm : link
I think Carolina has the best future in the division. They are already really good and they are young all over the place.
The Rangers desperately need more forwards with size and grit.  
yatqb : 1/17/2020 12:24 pm : link
Lemieux will help, but he can't be the only top six forward with some snarl to him. (As good as CK is, he doesn't play a physical game except in front of the net.)
RE: The Rangers desperately need more forwards with size and grit.  
giants_10_88 : 1/17/2020 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14783427 yatqb said:
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Lemieux will help, but he can't be the only top six forward with some snarl to him. (As good as CK is, he doesn't play a physical game except in front of the net.)


I like Nick Ritchie as an option for the third line. What about Julian Gauthier (6'4", 225 lbs) for Kreider?
RE: Also, personally,  
MetsAreBack : 1/17/2020 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14783425 Metnut said:
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I think Carolina has the best future in the division. They are already really good and they are young all over the place.


Not worried about Carolina long term. They don’t have the budget or brand name to keep the group together like most franchises can. They already nearly lost Aho.
Still can’t understand why Rangers  
5BowlsSoon : 1/17/2020 4:11 pm : link
Would trade George and keep 37 year old declining Hank? Georgie At 23 is better right now.

Don’t get me wrong, as a Leafs fan, I’m excited to welcome Georgie should the trade finally happen.
RE: Still can’t understand why Rangers  
Mad Mike : 1/17/2020 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14783825 5BowlsSoon said:
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Would trade George and keep 37 year old declining Hank? Georgie At 23 is better right now.

Don’t get me wrong, as a Leafs fan, I’m excited to welcome Georgie should the trade finally happen.

I know you like asking questions and then, for some reason, ignoring the responses, but this was explained quite plainly to you. If Georgiev is traded, it's not for the purpose of "keeping" Lundqvist.
RE: RE: Still can’t understand why Rangers  
5BowlsSoon : 1/17/2020 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14783830 Mad Mike said:
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In comment 14783825 5BowlsSoon said:


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Would trade George and keep 37 year old declining Hank? Georgie At 23 is better right now.

Don’t get me wrong, as a Leafs fan, I’m excited to welcome Georgie should the trade finally happen.


I know you like asking questions and then, for some reason, ignoring the responses, but this was explained quite plainly to you. If Georgiev is traded, it's not for the purpose of "keeping" Lundqvist.


I heard that answer. I know it was mentioned it was because Rangers believe they have some hotshot goalie coming up. But still, why not keep the hotshot and Georgie? I mean how much more does Hank have left? Keeping hotshot and Hank doesn’t make sense to me. Next year Hank will be 38....how many 38 year old goalies are playing now?

It seems obvious to me teams need two good goalies and not one to really excel. Look at teams like my Leafs and the Habs who struggle when they play the backup. Making the playoffs is tough with so many good teams.....you can’t afford to play a backup 20 times a year who is a cut below very good.

The Rangers NEVER have to worry about playing their backup because their backup is now actually better than the starter. So, if Rangers trade Georgie, then you have the hotshot goalie presumably taking over and I guess you have 38 year old Hank playing 20 or so games as the backup next year.

To me, this makes no sense. You should tell Hank after this season, so long, thanks for the many great years and then roll out the two young guns for how ever long. And if one gets hurt, youre confident in the next man up.

That is how I see it. But if Ranger fans want to keep Hank on the roster for more years, fine by me. I hope the trade is made while people with that thinking are still in power.
RE: RE: RE: Still can’t understand why Rangers  
Drewcon40 : 1/17/2020 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14783986 5BowlsSoon said:
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That is how I see it. But if Ranger fans want to keep Hank on the roster for more years, fine by me. I hope the trade is made while people with that thinking are still in power.


I don’t mean this to be antagonistic but I am not sure if you really know the Rangers fans thoughts on this.

First releasing or buying out lundqvist has cap implications. Besides that he also has a non-movement clause which makes trading him a bit more complicated. I think most Ranger fans were ready to move on at least a year ago, perhaps more.

Ideally the Rangers would love to have a tandem of Geotgiev and Shetstyerkin.
It would be nice if Hank agreed to a trade, but he seems committed  
yatqb : 1/17/2020 8:01 pm : link
to staying and has all the power regarding that, aside from if the team were to eat the contract. I might rather eat the Staal contract next season, then let Hank expire after next season.
Would any team really want the King  
xman : 1/17/2020 8:55 pm : link
with his 8 million cap hit?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Still can’t understand why Rangers  
5BowlsSoon : 1/18/2020 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14784033 Drewcon40 said:
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In comment 14783986 5BowlsSoon said:


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That is how I see it. But if Ranger fans want to keep Hank on the roster for more years, fine by me. I hope the trade is made while people with that thinking are still in power.



I don’t mean this to be antagonistic but I am not sure if you really know the Rangers fans thoughts on this.

First releasing or buying out lundqvist has cap implications. Besides that he also has a non-movement clause which makes trading him a bit more complicated. I think most Ranger fans were ready to move on at least a year ago, perhaps more.

Ideally the Rangers would love to have a tandem of Geotgiev and Shetstyerkin.


I just noticed this reply. Hey, thanks Drew...very informative Post indeed. You are absolutely right, I was not taking into consideration his no trade clause nor the length of his contract. Obviously, this Trumps what I even think Ranger fans think. And yes, you are right again....I can’t speak for Ranger fans nor should I even try. Thanks for showing me the error of my way here, and for doing it in a polite manner. Much appreciated.
Follow up the worst loss of the season  
Metnut : 1/18/2020 5:20 pm : link
with an even worse loss. Woof
RE: Would any team really want the King  
yatqb : 1/18/2020 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14784150 xman said:
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with his 8 million cap hit?


Likely not. Perhaps if their #1 went down near the deadline?
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