If the Giants decide to go tackle with their first pick, it is clear they will have their pick of the best. Coming into the draft, it was Thomas seen as the best guy, but now a lot of prognosticators are projecting Wills as the best guy. I am certainly no scout, but after watching some games and clips of these guys, I don't really see it with Wills. Huge man, but I didn't see great feet. On the other hand, Thomas has unbelievable feet for a man his size. Truly an amazing athlete. Wirfs seems to me to be kind of a combination of the two. I see a lot of Kareem McKenzie in him. With that said, I don't think the value will be there at 4 for any O-lineman. I would love to see them get Austin Jackson in round 2, but I am not sure if he will last that long.
It's time to invest heavily in the OL, and if we don't sign Conklin I'd be excited about Wirfs at 4 (or even better in a small trade down).
A QB hungry team will want to move up. Lets hope DG is willing to move down a few spota
Lloyd Cushenberry - LSU
Zack Shackleford - Texas
Matt Hennessy - Temple
Where do these guys get drafted?
I can't speak on the technique and inconsistencies, but he looks to have amazing feet to me. Check out these clips of you haven't already
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Lloyd Cushenberry - LSU
Zack Shackleford - Texas
Matt Hennessy - Temple
Where do these guys get drafted?
I've watched Hennessy in 2 games he was pushed all over the field. I am not sure where his hype comes from.
Lloyd Cushenberry - LSU
Zack Shackleford - Texas
Matt Hennessy - Temple
Where do these guys get drafted?
With the 68th pick in the 2020 NFL Draft...
Agree I don't think any are worth the 4
Wirfs looks like a RT, plenty of power and snarl.
Wirfs looks like a RT, plenty of power and snarl.
How MIGHT Wirfs translate to OLT down the road, if at all? Feet?
And I definitely think he has the feet to move to LT in a year. I have fantastic drafting 2 OTs 1 and 2 because RT looks really strong early in this draft. Not the best use of resources for next season but could set us up well for the future.
Not for nothing, but Thomas did REALLY well in nearly shutting down K'Lavon Chaisson, who will be a first rounder in April.
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He is horribly inconsistent in his pass pro set up. It seems to me he is so used to defeating his opponent right at the LOS, he has never developed any sort of consistent kick slide step (is that the right term for it?) to get himself into the "normal" LT position to set a pocket of protection.
I think you actually see it fairly consistently if you take a mega view of Georgia's o-line during drop back (or shotgun) pass attempts when Fromm fires from the pocket. On the right side of Georgia's OL you see the classic upside down horseshoe shape of the pocket, but on the left side Thomas is parked at the LOS, forming a straight line with the LG and OC.
It's striking how often I've seen this, and Thomas is not regularly getting beat despite this flawed technique, because he's nailed his opponent to the LOS.
I haven't watched nearly enough of him yet, but his body type is outstanding for an OL. He's extremely thick and athletic through his lower body, and his initial punch is electrifying. I'd like to see him hold onto opponents better, to lock them up more when he gets mitts on them, a lá Will Hernandez.
So far I see a tremendous athlete at LT who has technique issues in his pass drop set up. Something I assume could be coached up, perhaps even easily if he's a willing student of the game.
Where you see awesome feet on him is his run blocking at the second level and beyond downfield.
Eric, have you ever been driven nuts in a Winnebago??
These days I’m strong on two tackles - Wanogho and LSU’s Saahdiq Charles. Not at #4, but definitely round two-ish prospects.
I have seen plenty of Thomas at UGA and would say he projects much better than posters above saying Ereck Flowers, by far.
Nyg will draft one or these monsters at 4 if they pass the smell test next month. It won’t matter how good the corner is. The tackle will win their hearts and minds. I’m hoping it unfolds this way.
There are so few guys coming out of college who are really good at an offensive line position. If you can find a guy who has plus skills at a difficult to source position, take him and be happy. It's frankly what the Giants should have done Nelson.
If by some miracle he shows he can be a left tackle, that's tremendous, but that can't be the prerequisite.
I don't agree with a lot of what Gettleman does, but I do appreciate not getting cute in the first round. He's picked a good running back, good quarterback, good defensive tackle. Baker is a question mark. Add in a good offensive tackle, and that's four first round hits in 3 years.
There are so few guys coming out of college who are really good at an offensive line position. If you can find a guy who has plus skills at a difficult to source position, take him and be happy. It's frankly what the Giants should have done Nelson.
If by some miracle he shows he can be a left tackle, that's tremendous, but that can't be the prerequisite.
I don't agree with a lot of what Gettleman does, but I do appreciate not getting cute in the first round. He's picked a good running back, good quarterback, good defensive tackle. Baker is a question mark. Add in a good offensive tackle, and that's four first round hits in 3 years.
You know I have zero knowledge when it comes to college football. However, TO DATE, off of what I’ve been able to learn about him, I’d be all in on Wirfs at 4. Anticipating Sy’s take on him.
Yup. We didn’t do too badly with K-Mac there..
I've got dibs on Tristan "Welcome To" Wirfs.
I like Wirfs a lot but he seems a little stiff to me with his core bend. I do think he's the 'safest'/high floor prospect of the top OT's.
It's been said many times but it bears repeating there is no slam dunk 'blue chip' player in this position group. They all have warts.