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No leaks on coaching hires is excellent.

FatHeadTommy : 1/17/2020 2:22 pm
Maybe this means that we can actually keep info like who we want in the draft under wraps, unlike in years past when the pick was seemingly taken right in front of us.

Does this signify that we've ushered in a new period of institutional discipline? If it does, while I hate this waiting for news, I'm all for us being able to control what gets out and what doesn't.

Judge clearly learned something from Bill.

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/17/2020 2:24 pm : link
Art Stapleton said it himself... they are trying to find out but can't.
Eric  
bigblue5611_2 : 1/17/2020 2:32 pm : link
Not expecting you to give much whatsoever, but from the tidbits you've heard, how are you feeling so far if what you've heard comes to fruition?
RE: Eric  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/17/2020 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14783684 bigblue5611_2 said:
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Not expecting you to give much whatsoever, but from the tidbits you've heard, how are you feeling so far if what you've heard comes to fruition?


Won't really be able to answer until I know the full picture. So far, so good.
Gettleman cleaned things up big time  
jlukes : 1/17/2020 2:36 pm : link
Part of the reason there was such media backlash about the Daniel Jones pick was because the media felt deceived by the pre draft "leaks" they got

Look how butt hurt Francesca was..

Goodnight on Gettleman for running a tighter ship.
Good  
jlukes : 1/17/2020 2:36 pm : link
Not goodnight
I have zero worry about the OC ... my question is who will be the  
Spider56 : 1/17/2020 2:37 pm : link
OL coach ? Until the incumbent is publicly replaced, Iím nervous.
Eric, any thoughts on OL coach ?
RE: I have zero worry about the OC ... my question is who will be the  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/17/2020 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14783696 Spider56 said:
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OL coach ? Until the incumbent is publicly replaced, Iím nervous.
Eric, any thoughts on OL coach ?


Callahan has to be very appealing to them. But as Yankee28 pointed out, there was some tension between Garrett and him.

Fair enough  
bigblue5611_2 : 1/17/2020 2:39 pm : link
I like the "so far so good" comment though.

Thanks.
the  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/17/2020 2:41 pm : link
only other OL coach mentioned in the press was that older college coach J.B. Grimes.
jlukes  
bigblue5611_2 : 1/17/2020 2:41 pm : link
Very good point. I would say that, along with this abruptness, for lack of a better term, with them is one of the main reasons the media has such disdain for him.
It's those new computer guys.  
MOOPS : 1/17/2020 2:42 pm : link
They put a lid on the leaks.
Tight Lips  
BobsYourUncle : 1/17/2020 2:43 pm : link
Ruining 'Big Friday"!

The nerve... ;-P
RE: Gettleman cleaned things up big time  
jcn56 : 1/17/2020 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14783691 jlukes said:
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Part of the reason there was such media backlash about the Daniel Jones pick was because the media felt deceived by the pre draft "leaks" they got

Look how butt hurt Francesca was..

Goodnight on Gettleman for running a tighter ship.


Not true at all - last year around this time (right around the Senior Bowl) rumors were all over regarding the Giants interest. Vacchiano posted his pre-draft prediction, and had it right just like he had the years prior.

The only leaks that were plugged were those coming from the locker room, in the form of players who had been purged.
Its interesting also that  
FatHeadTommy : 1/17/2020 2:46 pm : link
the coaching candidates themselves haven't let anything leak out.
RE: It's those new computer guys.  
Mike from Ohio : 1/17/2020 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14783701 MOOPS said:
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They put a lid on the leaks.


They put passwords on all of the Commodore 64s they use. Sure, the passwords are all "password," but it's a step in the right direction.
Callahan comments on Garrett...  
Mike in St. Louis : 1/17/2020 2:49 pm : link
from Christmas 2019...don't know if this has been posted...of course, his private thoughts might be different...

"I have a lot of respect for Jason," Callahan said. "I think he was tremendously well-organized. He was a really good communicator with the players.his messages were always spot-on with the opponents we were playing. He was very demanding as a staff member as to what he wanted. He demanded precision."
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Its interesting also that  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/17/2020 2:49 pm : link
In comment 14783708 FatHeadTommy said:
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the coaching candidates themselves haven't let anything leak out.


Especially after those first four which came quickly.

Perhaps the others were told to zip it?
RE: RE: Gettleman cleaned things up big time  
jlukes : 1/17/2020 2:49 pm : link
In comment 14783706 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14783691 jlukes said:


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Part of the reason there was such media backlash about the Daniel Jones pick was because the media felt deceived by the pre draft "leaks" they got

Look how butt hurt Francesca was..

Goodnight on Gettleman for running a tighter ship.



Not true at all - last year around this time (right around the Senior Bowl) rumors were all over regarding the Giants interest. Vacchiano posted his pre-draft prediction, and had it right just like he had the years prior.

The only leaks that were plugged were those coming from the locker room, in the form of players who had been purged.


Huh?

Ralph always had us taking Haskins

https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/ralph-vacchianos-mock-nfl-draft-10-has-giants-taking-mannings-replacement/303553018

https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/7-round-mock-nfl-draft-has-giants-nabbing-franchise-qb-o-line-help/304776168

It wasn't until right before the draft that Ralph pivoted to Jones

https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/nfl-source-says-giants-will-take-daniel-jones-at-no-6-in-nfl-draft-thats-their-guy/306546210
RE: RE: Its interesting also that  
jlukes : 1/17/2020 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14783711 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14783708 FatHeadTommy said:


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the coaching candidates themselves haven't let anything leak out.



Especially after those first four which came quickly.

Perhaps the others were told to zip it?


Or the are still coaching this weekend?
RE: RE: RE: Gettleman cleaned things up big time  
jcn56 : 1/17/2020 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14783712 jlukes said:
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Huh?

Ralph always had us taking Haskins

https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/ralph-vacchianos-mock-nfl-draft-10-has-giants-taking-mannings-replacement/303553018

https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/7-round-mock-nfl-draft-has-giants-nabbing-franchise-qb-o-line-help/304776168

It wasn't until right before the draft that Ralph pivoted to Jones

https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/nfl-source-says-giants-will-take-daniel-jones-at-no-6-in-nfl-draft-thats-their-guy/306546210


Help me out jlukes - in an attempt to prove your point that Gettleman silenced leaks - you included an article from BEFORE THE DRAFT with Vacchiano stating the Giants would select Jones at 6, and including this tidbit:

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In fact, multiple NFL sources have echoed that sentiment in conversations with SNY in recent days -- that Jones is the Giants' target and that waiting to take him until 17 would be risky. The Washington Redskins, at 15, are another team believed to be highly interested in the 6-5, 221-pound quarterback from Duke.


That tells you he's keeping this quiet?
If we're going to speculate  
madeinstars : 1/17/2020 2:53 pm : link
It could just as well mean that nothing is really concrete or even close yet.
RE: Gettleman cleaned things up big time  
Ivan15 : 1/17/2020 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14783691 jlukes said:
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Part of the reason there was such media backlash about the Daniel Jones pick was because the media felt deceived by the pre draft "leaks" they got

Look how butt hurt Francesca was..

Goodnight on Gettleman for running a tighter ship.

The leaks may have been coming from admin staff who are in a good position to know. For example, secretaries and admin assistants.
Gettlemen certainly did tighten things up  
ZogZerg : 1/17/2020 3:05 pm : link
That's why the big meltdown when the Giants took a QB at #6.

Given how tight of a ship BB runs, I would guess that JJ will also want to keep things tight lipped.
Not to point fingers,  
MOOPS : 1/17/2020 3:08 pm : link
but if you're an asshat or purport to be an asshat, don't leave a breadcrumb trail back to a source that can be traced.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Gettleman cleaned things up big time  
jlukes : 1/17/2020 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14783722 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14783712 jlukes said:


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Huh?

Ralph always had us taking Haskins

https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/ralph-vacchianos-mock-nfl-draft-10-has-giants-taking-mannings-replacement/303553018

https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/7-round-mock-nfl-draft-has-giants-nabbing-franchise-qb-o-line-help/304776168

It wasn't until right before the draft that Ralph pivoted to Jones

https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/nfl-source-says-giants-will-take-daniel-jones-at-no-6-in-nfl-draft-thats-their-guy/306546210



Help me out jlukes - in an attempt to prove your point that Gettleman silenced leaks - you included an article from BEFORE THE DRAFT with Vacchiano stating the Giants would select Jones at 6, and including this tidbit:



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In fact, multiple NFL sources have echoed that sentiment in conversations with SNY in recent days -- that Jones is the Giants' target and that waiting to take him until 17 would be risky. The Washington Redskins, at 15, are another team believed to be highly interested in the 6-5, 221-pound quarterback from Duke.




That tells you he's keeping this quiet?


It seemed as if every media member was told something different.

Right before the draft Ralph had us taking Jones, others had us taking Haskins, others had us going defense.

Mixed messages were absolutely sent out.
RE: ...  
DavidinBMNY : 1/17/2020 3:28 pm : link
In comment 14783676 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton said it himself... they are trying to find out but can't.
Information in lockdown!
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Gettleman cleaned things up big time  
Big Blue '56 : 1/17/2020 3:31 pm : link
In comment 14783751 jlukes said:
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In comment 14783712 jlukes said:


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Huh?

Ralph always had us taking Haskins

https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/ralph-vacchianos-mock-nfl-draft-10-has-giants-taking-mannings-replacement/303553018

https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/7-round-mock-nfl-draft-has-giants-nabbing-franchise-qb-o-line-help/304776168

It wasn't until right before the draft that Ralph pivoted to Jones

https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/nfl-source-says-giants-will-take-daniel-jones-at-no-6-in-nfl-draft-thats-their-guy/306546210



Help me out jlukes - in an attempt to prove your point that Gettleman silenced leaks - you included an article from BEFORE THE DRAFT with Vacchiano stating the Giants would select Jones at 6, and including this tidbit:



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In fact, multiple NFL sources have echoed that sentiment in conversations with SNY in recent days -- that Jones is the Giants' target and that waiting to take him until 17 would be risky. The Washington Redskins, at 15, are another team believed to be highly interested in the 6-5, 221-pound quarterback from Duke.




That tells you he's keeping this quiet?



It seemed as if every media member was told something different.

Right before the draft Ralph had us taking Jones, others had us taking Haskins, others had us going defense.

Mixed messages were absolutely sent out.


Thatís what I recall
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paesan98 : 1/17/2020 4:19 pm : link
In comment 14783699 Eric from BBI said:
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only other OL coach mentioned in the press was that older college coach J.B. Grimes.


Grimes and Judge have a history together. From 2004-2008, I think
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Gettleman cleaned things up big time  
jcn56 : 1/17/2020 4:43 pm : link
In comment 14783751 jlukes said:
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It seemed as if every media member was told something different.

Right before the draft Ralph had us taking Jones, others had us taking Haskins, others had us going defense.

Mixed messages were absolutely sent out.


Your own article states very clearly that MULTIPLE NFL SOURCES believed that Jones would be the pick, and would be picked at 6.

Just like any other Giants draft year. No magical keeping quiet, no matter how you guys might like to pretend otherwise. That's an article from before the draft saying that teams already pegged who the Giants would be picking and which 1st round pick they'd be using.

If you want to promote Gettleman fine, try to do it on merit. I know it's not easy, but don't just start making shit up.
The leaks were actually cleaned up  
Mr. Bungle : 1/17/2020 4:46 pm : link
after the Reese administration was shown the door. That's where the leaking problems were.
You're living on Fantasy Island  
arniefez : 1/17/2020 4:54 pm : link
if you think somehow the Giants are going to stop being the Giants with the media. Media paranoia and media leaks to their "friends" for return favors is part of the DNA. Especially about the draft.

In NE Belichick has to deal with an owner. in NJ Judge has to deal with 4 active owners in the building, half a dozen other owners around the building and dozens and dozens of other owner family members of all different ages.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Gettleman cleaned things up big time  
BigBlueShock : 1/17/2020 5:24 pm : link
In comment 14783868 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14783751 jlukes said:


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It seemed as if every media member was told something different.

Right before the draft Ralph had us taking Jones, others had us taking Haskins, others had us going defense.

Mixed messages were absolutely sent out.



Your own article states very clearly that MULTIPLE NFL SOURCES believed that Jones would be the pick, and would be picked at 6.

Just like any other Giants draft year. No magical keeping quiet, no matter how you guys might like to pretend otherwise. That's an article from before the draft saying that teams already pegged who the Giants would be picking and which 1st round pick they'd be using.

If you want to promote Gettleman fine, try to do it on merit. I know it's not easy, but don't just start making shit up.

This is absolutely ridiculous. If youíre being honest with yourself, youíd admit that leading up to the draft, you could read ten different articles and get ten different opinions on who the Giants would take. It was all over the map. In fact, there were some jokes around that time that regardless of the confusion and conflicting reports, no matter who the Giants took, some posters would still claim that the Giants obviously leaked who they would take. And, here we are....
RE: The leaks were actually cleaned up  
hitdog42 : 1/17/2020 5:36 pm : link
In comment 14783870 Mr. Bungle said:
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after the Reese administration was shown the door. That's where the leaking problems were.


I donít think that is true
RE: You're living on Fantasy Island  
Klaatu : 1/17/2020 5:40 pm : link
In comment 14783883 arniefez said:
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if you think somehow the Giants are going to stop being the Giants with the media. Media paranoia and media leaks to their "friends" for return favors is part of the DNA. Especially about the draft.

In NE Belichick has to deal with an owner. in NJ Judge has to deal with 4 active owners in the building, half a dozen other owners around the building and dozens and dozens of other owner family members of all different ages.




It's a family tradition.
hitdog  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/17/2020 5:42 pm : link
Your time of year has arrived. ;)
RE: hitdog  
Ray_Ray (NYG) : 1/17/2020 6:17 pm : link
I was thinking the same thing Eric LOL


In comment 14783938 Eric from BBI said:
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Your time of year has arrived. ;)
RE: RE: The leaks were actually cleaned up  
Mr. Bungle : 1/17/2020 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14783935 hitdog42 said:
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In comment 14783870 Mr. Bungle said:


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after the Reese administration was shown the door. That's where the leaking problems were.



I donít think that is true

Based on the public shock of the Daniel Jones pick, I sure do.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Gettleman cleaned things up big time  
section125 : 1/17/2020 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14783868 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14783751 jlukes said:


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It seemed as if every media member was told something different.

Right before the draft Ralph had us taking Jones, others had us taking Haskins, others had us going defense.

Mixed messages were absolutely sent out.



Your own article states very clearly that MULTIPLE NFL SOURCES believed that Jones would be the pick, and would be picked at 6.

Just like any other Giants draft year. No magical keeping quiet, no matter how you guys might like to pretend otherwise. That's an article from before the draft saying that teams already pegged who the Giants would be picking and which 1st round pick they'd be using.

If you want to promote Gettleman fine, try to do it on merit. I know it's not easy, but don't just start making shit up.


It has to stop - the needless bashing Gettleman posts. I don't give a rats ass if Ralphie thought it would be Jones. There were really only two QBs to be drafted at 6 -Jones or Haskins. That was it. And we all know that Gettleman really wanted Allen at 6 and Jones at 17. But the rumors were out about DC, Denver and one or two others between 6 and 17 for Jones. So Ralphie was on Haskins until he changed his mind..for whatever reason.
Except the day before the draft, like clockwork, the NFL knew  
jcn56 : 1/17/2020 7:02 pm : link
exactly who the Giants were going to take and where. Again. Just like they did with Barkley.

It's not Gettleman bashing - if you make shit up, and written evidence exists to prove that you're wrong, expect to be called out on it. For fuck's sake the guy making the claim PROVIDED the proof he was wrong, and didn't at least own it, he just doubled down on the stupidity.
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