I did a quick search and didn't see anything posted. Sheds some light on how he got to where he was, really sad to see to be honest. Had all the talent in the world and it all started unraveling when he was about 16.
I think it just paints the picture of how he got to where he did. It certainly doesn't discount the victims and their families in my opinion, but goes through the timeline of events in his life that most likely created the person he became.
I think it just paints the picture of how he got to where he did. It certainly doesn't discount the victims and their families in my opinion, but goes through the timeline of events in his life that most likely created the person he became.
That was my impression of the boston globe spotlight series about him. They laid out the stuff that had happened in his life, which was pretty rough, but I didn't think they were excusing him, just showing what he'd gone through.
but PFT wrote an article today criticizing the show for basically making excuses for Hernandez.
If that's what PFT wrote it's incredibly lazy by them. It seems to be the trendy thing now to criticize true crime doc directors for being sympathetic to the killers. That was not at all the case in this doc. I thought it was very well done and simply painted a picture of who he was. He was a sad person who had a lot of skeletons in his closet and seemingly would do whatever to keep them there.
They also focused a good amount on the victims and their families. It's a good watch. Highly recommend.
Hernandez shot into a car blindly as a freshmen at Florida Â
He was probably drinking but that indicates a psychotic who enjoys violence
That was when he was 18. Did he have a hard childhood with his dad dying? Yeah, so did Ted. Bundty. So did OJ. But so did millions of others who don’t kill.
As far as football goes, nobody on my high school football team has killed any one. And given AH’s size, I bet he was dishing out more punishment than he was taking. And that’s when he shots his first victim, right after high school. Or at least the first one we know about.
I get what you’re saying and where you’re going with that argument, however, it was more than just his father dying. It was the indiscretions by his mother, the confusion around his sexuality, hiding his homosexuality, amongst other things. Losing his father was probably the biggest blow, but there was more to it than that.
explanations as to why he ended up where he did. Death of his father, alleged sexual abuse, falling in with the wrong crowd, an unloving mother, conflicted sexuality, CTE.... a pretty long list. Take your pick. Felt to me like they were trying very hard to paint him as a victim of circumstances.
Someone told me today it’s heavy on his sexuality Â
I certainly think there can be an argument made that he was a by-product, victim if you must, of all those things. We will obviously never know otherwise but I can absolutely see how all those factors played a part in this person he became and the things that he did. Unfortunately his actions created other victims which is even more of a tragedy.
1. Didnt know he was banging his High School QB.
2. Didnt know he was actually acquitted of the double murder in the other case linked to him.
3. Didnt know he was supposed to go to UCONN.
4. Wish they spent more time on his seemingly out of nowhere decision to sign with Urban at Florida.
5. His dad was presented as a bad dad, but his mom was presented as a total piece of shit.
Really a good watch.
RE: Someone told me today it’s heavy on his sexuality Â
Which was the first I’d ever heard of any such implications in his death.
I don't think they spend much time on that aspect.
Really, the series just reinforced some basic truths. We're all clocks. Some of us are born broken. Some of us get broken somewhere along the way. But ultimately, we're no more in charge of where our minute-hand is pointing than we are in charge of what time it is in the first place.
There’s a reason he did what he did and it doesn’t make sense if you just call him an asshole or try to break it down logically. Why would a millionaire professional athlete start executing people? The whole point of the documentary is to try to answer that absurd question. They’re not making excuses.
There’s a reason he did what he did and it doesn’t make sense if you just call him an asshole or try to break it down logically. Why would a millionaire professional athlete start executing people? The whole point of the documentary is to try to answer that absurd question. They’re not making excuses.
That's the thing though, he was committing crimes years before he became a millionaire pro athlete. Mentally, he was always stuck in that mindset, and never grew up since he was 15 or 16. There was a side to him that was a "normal" loving family man while also containing so much anger inside him for a variety of reasons. Along with the brain damage, a bad combination.
I'm sure there's plenty ingredients that ended up Â
His Mom shaking up with his cousin's sister so soon after his death...didn't know that. Also, I had no clue his old man was an abusive drunk. Or that he experimented sexually with his high school QB.
In short, I didn't a lot about Hernandez's personal life.
I certainly think there can be an argument made that he was a by-product, victim if you must, of all those things. We will obviously never know otherwise but I can absolutely see how all those factors played a part in this person he became and the things that he did. Unfortunately his actions created other victims which is even more of a tragedy.
Well said big blue and that's my take on it too.
I also agree with your earlier posts on it and didn't think this was making excuses for him.
That was my impression of the boston globe spotlight series about him. They laid out the stuff that had happened in his life, which was pretty rough, but I didn't think they were excusing him, just showing what he'd gone through.
If that's what PFT wrote it's incredibly lazy by them. It seems to be the trendy thing now to criticize true crime doc directors for being sympathetic to the killers. That was not at all the case in this doc. I thought it was very well done and simply painted a picture of who he was. He was a sad person who had a lot of skeletons in his closet and seemingly would do whatever to keep them there.
They also focused a good amount on the victims and their families. It's a good watch. Highly recommend.
That was when he was 18. Did he have a hard childhood with his dad dying? Yeah, so did Ted. Bundty. So did OJ. But so did millions of others who don’t kill.
As far as football goes, nobody on my high school football team has killed any one. And given AH’s size, I bet he was dishing out more punishment than he was taking. And that’s when he shots his first victim, right after high school. Or at least the first one we know about.
Yes.
2. Didnt know he was actually acquitted of the double murder in the other case linked to him.
3. Didnt know he was supposed to go to UCONN.
4. Wish they spent more time on his seemingly out of nowhere decision to sign with Urban at Florida.
5. His dad was presented as a bad dad, but his mom was presented as a total piece of shit.
Really a good watch.
I don't think they spend much time on that aspect.
Really, the series just reinforced some basic truths. We're all clocks. Some of us are born broken. Some of us get broken somewhere along the way. But ultimately, we're no more in charge of where our minute-hand is pointing than we are in charge of what time it is in the first place.
That's the thing though, he was committing crimes years before he became a millionaire pro athlete. Mentally, he was always stuck in that mindset, and never grew up since he was 15 or 16. There was a side to him that was a "normal" loving family man while also containing so much anger inside him for a variety of reasons. Along with the brain damage, a bad combination.
Even if he caught all the breaks throughout his life and only got dealt the best hands, then I'd be watching Forrest Gump on Netflix right now.
In short, I didn't a lot about Hernandez's personal life.
Apparently, PFT thought Hernandez just sat in his house, laughing hysterically and twirling his mustache, while thinking about the people he'd killed.
Well said big blue and that's my take on it too.
I also agree with your earlier posts on it and didn't think this was making excuses for him.
Your fiance is in jail and could be locked up, dragging your name through the mud and that's what you're worried about? Lol, ok.