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Callahan remains in play for NYG

Big Rick in FL : 1/18/2020 9:14 am
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@JordanRaanan: It appears that Bill Callahan remains in play for the Giants as OL coach. But given Callahanís track record of success, there is competition for his services.


Definitely some good news on this wonderful Saturday morning!
The key might be  
Big Blue '56 : 1/18/2020 9:20 am : link
how JG and BC really get along
Pay the  
TommyWiseau : 1/18/2020 9:21 am : link
Man. Oline coach is one coaching spot that you do not go cheap
Letís use the old BC connection and get Marc Colombo ...  
Spider56 : 1/18/2020 9:21 am : link
He could suit up in a pinch and still be on par with our current tackles.
Iím sure Matt Rhule is on the phone too  
5BowlsSoon : 1/18/2020 9:36 am : link
Has McCarthy already selected his OL coach, or is that still in play?

Iím sure Cleveland is looking too.
whether it's callahan or not, hopefully Garrett brings the importance  
Eric on Li : 1/18/2020 9:36 am : link
of a great OL coach into the fold. He has seen it firsthand, not only the talent on the field but when they switched OL coaches that 1 year and had to fire the guy and bring back Columbo. It makes a difference.
RE: whether it's callahan or not, hopefully Garrett brings the importance  
Jay on the Island : 1/18/2020 9:41 am : link
In comment 14784504 Eric on Li said:
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of a great OL coach into the fold. He has seen it firsthand, not only the talent on the field but when they switched OL coaches that 1 year and had to fire the guy and bring back Columbo. It makes a difference.

The OL coach position ismost vital right now. We can't afford another Hal Hunter. Obviously Callahan is the prize but Colombo isn't a bad option either.
Hopefully the likelihood  
Jay on the Island : 1/18/2020 9:42 am : link
that the Giants will use a top 10 pick on an OT plus Will Hernandez and Zeitler is enough to lure Callahan here.
RE: RE: whether it's callahan or not, hopefully Garrett brings the importance  
Mike in NY : 1/18/2020 9:47 am : link
In comment 14784507 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14784504 Eric on Li said:


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of a great OL coach into the fold. He has seen it firsthand, not only the talent on the field but when they switched OL coaches that 1 year and had to fire the guy and bring back Columbo. It makes a difference.


The OL coach position ismost vital right now. We can't afford another Hal Hunter. Obviously Callahan is the prize but Colombo isn't a bad option either.


Or there is Harry Hiestand, who developed a number of first rounders as OL Coach at Notre Dame and was also David Diehlís OL Coach at Illinois.
agreed Jay - the OL coach has been the most important hire  
Eric on Li : 1/18/2020 9:51 am : link
the entire time so that's 1 thing that I like about the Garrett hire, he likely recognizes that and has made the correct move as HC to get that right 3 times (Houck, Callahan, Columbo). Good track record there.
RE: Hopefully the likelihood  
upnyg : 1/18/2020 10:06 am : link
In comment 14784509 Jay on the Island said:
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that the Giants will use a top 10 pick on an OT plus Will Hernandez and Zeitler is enough to lure Callahan here.


Yes, would be even better if somehow we were to trade out, get other picks, and pick up 2 OT in the first rounds
RE: RE: Hopefully the likelihood  
Jay on the Island : 1/18/2020 10:22 am : link
In comment 14784548 upnyg said:
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In comment 14784509 Jay on the Island said:


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that the Giants will use a top 10 pick on an OT plus Will Hernandez and Zeitler is enough to lure Callahan here.



Yes, would be even better if somehow we were to trade out, get other picks, and pick up 2 OT in the first rounds

My hope is that they would add a RT in free agency, Hopefully Conklin, and then trade down and grab either Jedrick Wills, Anthony Thomas, Austin Jackson, etc. Then in round 2 grab Tyler Biadasz. Imagine Callahan developing Wills, Hernandez, Biadasz, Zeitler, and Conklin.
Sounds great Jay.  
giant power : 1/18/2020 10:49 am : link
Who's playing defense?
RE: Sounds great Jay.  
Jay on the Island : 1/18/2020 10:55 am : link
In comment 14784602 giant power said:
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Who's playing defense?

If only we had other picks from trading down! Fixing the offensive line and protecting our franchise QB should be the priority. Go all in for Ngakoue in free agency.
Imagine if?  
trueblueinpw : 1/18/2020 11:07 am : link
Wouldnít it be cool if the Giants became a really well coached team? All snark and bunched up undies aside, itís been a really long time since weíve seen a well coached Giants team. Even TC, who won two glorious Supes with Big Blue, didnít really strike me as a guy who always had the team ready and coached up.
Bring him in  
Carson53 : 1/18/2020 11:11 am : link
after the joke that Hal Hunter was, and they haven't had
a good and competent OL coach in years here!
He would be a good get for this team, a veteran mind.
not sure if  
bc4life : 1/18/2020 11:12 am : link
this old news
Link - ( New Window )
I hope it is not DeGuglielmo  
Mike in NY : 1/18/2020 11:16 am : link
Since 2012 the only time he has lasted for more than a year is when he lasted 2 in New England (2014-2015) and New England desperately called Dante Scarnecchia out of retirement.
RE: I hope it is not DeGuglielmo  
Carson53 : 1/18/2020 11:18 am : link
In comment 14784639 Mike in NY said:
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Since 2012 the only time he has lasted for more than a year is when he lasted 2 in New England (2014-2015) and New England desperately called Dante Scarnecchia out of retirement.
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Exactly, Dante was in retirement. There is a big difference
between Callahan and DeGuglielmo.
when you guys bash all these offensive line coaches  
Rory : 1/18/2020 11:26 am : link
do you even know what the hell you're talking about?

Honestly I dont know a thing about coaching offensive line, so I reserve my judgement for the more informed.

If you're basing your opinion on just "current results" dont you have to consider all other conditions.

Health, opponents, scheme, out of position, player abilities.

Just saying
Not sure if these things get reported  
jcn56 : 1/18/2020 11:54 am : link
but did Tepper hand out unusually large salaries to the assistants as well?

Wonder if what the Giants have to contend with here is an owner who is willing to blow salary scales out of the water.
Columbo would be a good hire  
Gman11 : 1/18/2020 12:05 pm : link
He'll get it figured out.

RE: I hope it is not DeGuglielmo  
Strahan91 : 1/18/2020 12:12 pm : link
In comment 14784639 Mike in NY said:
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Since 2012 the only time he has lasted for more than a year is when he lasted 2 in New England (2014-2015) and New England desperately called Dante Scarnecchia out of retirement.

To be fair he seemed to do a great job in Indy (at least their line play was excellent). He was someone McDaniels hired before backing out of the job.
RE: not sure if  
5BowlsSoon : 1/18/2020 12:18 pm : link
In comment 14784630 bc4life said:
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this old news Link - ( New Window )


Wow, not old news....in fact TOTALLY NEW NEWS. THIS IS AWESOME NEWS!

I will take either one. Callahan first but I can live with the other.
JUST DO IT
RE: Not sure if these things get reported  
5BowlsSoon : 1/18/2020 12:20 pm : link
In comment 14784700 jcn56 said:
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but did Tepper hand out unusually large salaries to the assistants as well?

Wonder if what the Giants have to contend with here is an owner who is willing to blow salary scales out of the water.


Just my thinking out loud.....who Tepper wants Tepper gets. So who Rhule wants, Iím pretty sure Tepper will offer more to an assistant who is in demand. It just makes sense, right? To give his HC all the toys he needs And wants to play with.
RE: RE: I hope it is not DeGuglielmo  
5BowlsSoon : 1/18/2020 12:21 pm : link
In comment 14784736 Strahan91 said:
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In comment 14784639 Mike in NY said:


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Since 2012 the only time he has lasted for more than a year is when he lasted 2 in New England (2014-2015) and New England desperately called Dante Scarnecchia out of retirement.


To be fair he seemed to do a great job in Indy (at least their line play was excellent). He was someone McDaniels hired before backing out of the job.


I agree. Iím not sure why some have written him off....I have a feeling Callahan goes to Carolina and we get the other.
The attraction for Callahan  
AdamBrag : 1/18/2020 12:25 pm : link
is likely that if the offense has a very successful season, Garrett likely finds himself another head coaching gig and Callahan could step in as OC to keep the same system in place.
RE: The attraction for Callahan  
Mike in NY : 1/18/2020 12:40 pm : link
In comment 14784753 AdamBrag said:
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is likely that if the offense has a very successful season, Garrett likely finds himself another head coaching gig and Callahan could step in as OC to keep the same system in place.


I think the attraction of Callahan is more that he actually made Ereck Flowers look like an NFL player and has a track record of successful OL even when his teams have been ravaged by injuries.
RE: RE: The attraction for Callahan  
AdamBrag : 1/18/2020 1:02 pm : link
In comment 14784769 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 14784753 AdamBrag said:


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is likely that if the offense has a very successful season, Garrett likely finds himself another head coaching gig and Callahan could step in as OC to keep the same system in place.



I think the attraction of Callahan is more that he actually made Ereck Flowers look like an NFL player and has a track record of successful OL even when his teams have been ravaged by injuries.


I get why he's a good coach, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying the reason why he'd want to come here over other offers.
RE: RE: Hopefully the likelihood  
jnoble : 1/18/2020 1:02 pm : link
In comment 14784548 upnyg said:
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In comment 14784509 Jay on the Island said:


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that the Giants will use a top 10 pick on an OT plus Will Hernandez and Zeitler is enough to lure Callahan here.



Yes, would be even better if somehow we were to trade out, get other picks, and pick up 2 OT in the first rounds


THIS
Conklin  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/18/2020 1:03 pm : link
is a bit overrated on bbi.
Tracking Carolina and Rhuleís staff  
5BowlsSoon : 1/18/2020 1:16 pm : link
I hope this has been finalized....

Jan 11, 2020: Rhule is expected to hire Kevin Gilbride as tight ends coach and Pat Flaherty as offensive line coach. Source: Alex Marvez, Twitter
Thatís TCís influence right there.  
yatqb : 1/18/2020 1:19 pm : link
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RE: Thatís TCís influence right there.  
Spider56 : 1/18/2020 1:25 pm : link
In comment 14784804 yatqb said:
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We should ask Doug Marrone what he thinks of Tom Coughlinís influence.
Flaherty was highly regarded here  
Fred-in-Florida : 1/18/2020 2:40 pm : link
I donít remember exactly when he was the OL coach but I recall people upset when he left. Then his predecessor was also regarded as a good line coach but neither was able to do anything with our line.

If I remember correctly Within their time frames we drafted Pugh, Richburg and Flowers. How has that worked out?

Richburg started For the 49ers and did well until he got hurt. Pugh is a starter for the Cards af guard. But was hurt a lot here. We either wouldnít or couldnít give them the salary they wanted because of injuries but anyway we spent quite a bit of draft choices trying to upgrade the line. They may not have been all pros but more than adequate to build on.

Wonít comment on Flowers.

Hunter was poor but it started way before him!
Is any info on coordinators / postition coaches contracts or salaries  
90.Cal : 1/18/2020 3:47 pm : link
Ever made public? Like, could the Giants know who the highest paid OL coach is and how much they make so that they can negotiate or offer Callahan a deal that would make him the new highest paid OL coach?
Pay the man  
Saquads26 : 1/18/2020 4:07 pm : link
Get Judge whoever he wants
RE: RE: Not sure if these things get reported  
Big Rick in FL : 1/18/2020 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14784744 5BowlsSoon said:
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but did Tepper hand out unusually large salaries to the assistants as well?

Wonder if what the Giants have to contend with here is an owner who is willing to blow salary scales out of the water.



Just my thinking out loud.....who Tepper wants Tepper gets. So who Rhule wants, Iím pretty sure Tepper will offer more to an assistant who is in demand. It just makes sense, right? To give his HC all the toys he needs And wants to play with.


I believe it's been rumored that Pat Flaherty will be the Panthers OL coach.

Also does Callahan have any connection to anybody on that staff? That's one thing we have going for us. He's coached with Garrett for 4 seasons so he's at least familiar with him
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