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1 point about Jason Garrett

gidiefor : Mod : 1/18/2020 9:48 am
the Cowboys selected excellent Offensive lineman under his watch
ummmm  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/18/2020 9:49 am : link
we call them Hog Mollies around here. Get with the program.
+1  
SCGiantsFan : 1/18/2020 9:51 am : link
with the program!
he also selected 2 (or maybe 3) excellent OL coaches  
Eric on Li : 1/18/2020 9:52 am : link
Houck
Callahan
Columbo (not quite so proven as the other 2 but was successful).

He made 1 bad hire in between, but he fired that guy quick and brought in Columbo.
He was run out of Dallas  
HomerJones45 : 1/18/2020 9:56 am : link
and most of you spent the last 6 or 7 years pointing out what a failure he was. Now, he's the next Vince Lombardi. Yeah, ok. Barkeep, I'll have another BBI Inconsistency
RE: He was run out of Dallas  
BestFeature : 1/18/2020 10:00 am : link
In comment 14784531 HomerJones45 said:
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and most of you spent the last 6 or 7 years pointing out what a failure he was. Now, he's the next Vince Lombardi. Yeah, ok. Barkeep, I'll have another BBI Inconsistency


Fucking stupid post is stupid.

1) He was HC, not OC in Dallas, the reviews wouldn't be anywhere near as good if we hired him as a HC.

2) We shit on all of our rivals. That's what fans do.
He had very little role in the scouting and selection  
Sammo85 : 1/18/2020 10:00 am : link
But you can give him credit for developing them and utilizing them individually to their talents and as a unit and having the right coaches too.

RE: He was run out of Dallas  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/18/2020 10:02 am : link
In comment 14784531 HomerJones45 said:
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and most of you spent the last 6 or 7 years pointing out what a failure he was. Now, he's the next Vince Lombardi. Yeah, ok. Barkeep, I'll have another BBI Inconsistency


RE: He was run out of Dallas  
UConn4523 : 1/18/2020 10:03 am : link
In comment 14784531 HomerJones45 said:
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and most of you spent the last 6 or 7 years pointing out what a failure he was. Now, he's the next Vince Lombardi. Yeah, ok. Barkeep, I'll have another BBI Inconsistency


You realize the duties of a HC are wildly different than an OC, donít you? If you do then youíd now how ridiculous this post is.

I think Garrett isnít made to be a HC - just isnít good with in game management at all, IMO. But now he doesnít have to do that, or take time to oversee defense and specials. He can focus 100% if his time to Jones and the offense - basically what heís actually good at.
RE: He was run out of Dallas  
Saquads26 : 1/18/2020 10:10 am : link
In comment 14784531 HomerJones45 said:
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and most of you spent the last 6 or 7 years pointing out what a failure he was. Now, he's the next Vince Lombardi. Yeah, ok. Barkeep, I'll have another BBI Inconsistency


Um he was the head coach there and not even calling plays 🙄
RE: RE: He was run out of Dallas  
Jimmy Googs : 1/18/2020 10:14 am : link
In comment 14784541 UConn4523 said:
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and most of you spent the last 6 or 7 years pointing out what a failure he was. Now, he's the next Vince Lombardi. Yeah, ok. Barkeep, I'll have another BBI Inconsistency



You realize the duties of a HC are wildly different than an OC, donít you? If you do then youíd now how ridiculous this post is.

I think Garrett isnít made to be a HC - just isnít good with in game management at all, IMO. But now he doesnít have to do that, or take time to oversee defense and specials. He can focus 100% if his time to Jones and the offense - basically what heís actually good at.


Well put. Looking forward to Garrett to improving offense...hopefully he gets a healthy roster to do it next season.
When watching the Cowboys under Garrett play, I never thought they  
Ira : 1/18/2020 10:21 am : link
were badly coached. I did feel that way about the McCarthy coached Packers.
One thing I like about the JG hiring  
GIANTS128 : 1/18/2020 10:24 am : link
is he will definitely have chip on his shoulder. I think our offense is going to look a lot different next year. TEs running seam routes. SB in space/screen plays. I think we also look to draft a bruising RB(or cheaper FA) to pound the ball when needed.
Enough about JG's "system"  
Andy340350 : 1/18/2020 11:07 am : link
What Judge has made crystal clear is that he is not about having "A System" other than a commitment to putting the players on the team in the best position to use their strengths and minimize their weakness, combined with NE-style flexibility to tailor each week's game plan to exploit the opponent's weaknesses and neutralize their strengths. I have to guess that over 2 days of meetings, Garret got the message and Judge is confident that he has bought in.

And for what it's worth, a friend who knows Jason and the Garrett family quite well tells me his primary focus will be on improving the OL so that the running game can be productive.
RE: When watching the Cowboys under Garrett play, I never thought they  
montanagiant : 1/18/2020 11:11 am : link
In comment 14784567 Ira said:
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were badly coached. I did feel that way about the McCarthy coached Packers.

Thinking back that's actually an excellent point. When we beat them it was our players making plays and yet it was always a dog fight and usually, 2-3 plays made the difference. They never lost because of coaching.
What do we know about how much input he had in those selections?  
BH28 : 1/18/2020 11:15 am : link
Isn't Stephen Jones the guy who should be getting the kudos on the lineman?
RE: ummmm  
BlueVinnie : 1/18/2020 11:21 am : link
In comment 14784520 Eric from BBI said:
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we call them Hog Mollies around here. Get with the program.

Ugh...I hope we lose that terminology soon.
RE: RE: ummmm  
Jimmy Googs : 1/18/2020 11:29 am : link
In comment 14784649 BlueVinnie said:
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In comment 14784520 Eric from BBI said:


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we call them Hog Mollies around here. Get with the program.


Ugh...I hope we lose that terminology soon.


There is one clean way of getting rid of it...
RE: One thing I like about the JG hiring  
Gman11 : 1/18/2020 11:47 am : link
In comment 14784571 GIANTS128 said:
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is he will definitely have chip on his shoulder. I think our offense is going to look a lot different next year. TEs running seam routes. SB in space/screen plays.


Too bad he won't be going up against the Giants' defense in games.
RE: He was run out of Dallas  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/18/2020 12:15 pm : link
In comment 14784531 HomerJones45 said:
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and most of you spent the last 6 or 7 years pointing out what a failure he was. Now, he's the next Vince Lombardi. Yeah, ok. Barkeep, I'll have another BBI Inconsistency


Ok Boomer
RE: RE: When watching the Cowboys under Garrett play, I never thought they  
Kev in Cali : 1/18/2020 12:24 pm : link
In comment 14784629 montanagiant said:
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were badly coached. I did feel that way about the McCarthy coached Packers.


Thinking back that's actually an excellent point. When we beat them it was our players making plays and yet it was always a dog fight and usually, 2-3 plays made the difference. They never lost because of coaching.


He lost close games in big spots not to bad calls, but more so becuase of a players mistake or limitation.
Hogmollies are the name of the game  
JerrysKids : 1/18/2020 12:41 pm : link
On both sides of the ball
RE: He was run out of Dallas  
Boatie Warrant : 1/18/2020 1:25 pm : link
In comment 14784531 HomerJones45 said:
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and most of you spent the last 6 or 7 years pointing out what a failure he was. Now, he's the next Vince Lombardi. Yeah, ok. Barkeep, I'll have another BBI Inconsistency


If I was a Denver fan I would be super happy about the Shurmur hire just as many of us are about the Garrett hire. Will it work? Who knows but it is a hire with upside
Garrett hasn't called plays since 2010  
ajr2456 : 1/18/2020 2:01 pm : link
The game has changed a lot in 10 years. That has to be a concern.
Can anyone tell me what you like about Garrett?  
Prude : 1/18/2020 2:55 pm : link
Without using the word experience, tell me the things that he has impressed you with.
RE: Can anyone tell me what you like about Garrett?  
joe48 : 1/18/2020 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14784854 Prude said:
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Without using the word experience, tell me the things that he has impressed you with.
That is all I see. Working as a yes man for Jerry and Stephen Jones. Maybe getting away from Dallas will be good for him and us. Looks like a Mara special.
RE: RE: Can anyone tell me what you like about Garrett?  
Prude : 1/18/2020 3:25 pm : link
In comment 14784863 joe48 said:
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Without using the word experience, tell me the things that he has impressed you with.

That is all I see. Working as a yes man for Jerry and Stephen Jones. Maybe getting away from Dallas will be good for him and us. Looks like a Mara special.


That's all I see as well. Almost surely forced by Mara and the dead opposite of Joe Judge's vision of flexability and forward thinking. He is going to bring in a 15 year old playbook and stick with it. I don't understand how anyone is excited about this hire.
I said it first...  
90.Cal : 1/18/2020 3:55 pm : link
He was at the very least just in the god damn room when they drafted 3 OL that went on to become year in and out All Pro type players...

That is the biggest + about adding this man to our organization because as you all know this OL has been a disaster for about a decade now...

Called in this AM to espn NY and said the same just before this post was made... coincident? Or did you hear me on air gidifor?
Lol. Great minds think alike 90.....  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/18/2020 4:08 pm : link
Nope. Didnt hear you. I am with a bunch of family in Cape Cod this weekend and would have things thrown at me if i was listening to sports radio.
RE: Lol. Great minds think alike 90.....  
90.Cal : 1/18/2020 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14784897 gidiefor said:
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Nope. Didnt hear you. I am with a bunch of family in Cape Cod this weekend and would have things thrown at me if i was listening to sports radio.


Lol... only about 6 months too early for me hit up the Cape. Enjoy.
RE: He was run out of Dallas  
section125 : 1/18/2020 4:39 pm : link
In comment 14784531 HomerJones45 said:
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and most of you spent the last 6 or 7 years pointing out what a failure he was. Now, he's the next Vince Lombardi. Yeah, ok. Barkeep, I'll have another BBI Inconsistency


No inconsistency at all. HJ45 with another negative post that is as irrelevant as bell bottom pants.
Do you ever post a GD thing that is positive, or just sit in your parents cellar in your shorts and spew venom. You, Terps and jcn56 need a break from BBI and give the rest of us a break from insistent negativity. It is truly grating. Have a few month of happiness for once in your life.
People love to get on Garrett for the low hanging fruit  
djm : 1/18/2020 5:44 pm : link
He claps his hands and smiles on the sidelines. Dallas lost some brutally close postseason games and the fans nitpick the playcalling. Yeah I donít really give a fuck. Garrett is a solid football mind. Heís helped young players grow into good and great players. Thatís all I care about and why I feel heís going to help this franchise. Garrett is the best HC mind weíve had here since coughlin, and heís not even the HC.
RE: RE: He was run out of Dallas  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 1/18/2020 5:45 pm : link
In comment 14784541 UConn4523 said:
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and most of you spent the last 6 or 7 years pointing out what a failure he was. Now, he's the next Vince Lombardi. Yeah, ok. Barkeep, I'll have another BBI Inconsistency



You realize the duties of a HC are wildly different than an OC, donít you? If you do then youíd now how ridiculous this post is.

I think Garrett isnít made to be a HC - just isnít good with in game management at all, IMO. But now he doesnít have to do that, or take time to oversee defense and specials. He can focus 100% if his time to Jones and the offense - basically what heís actually good at.

I would also strongly consider Garrett for a FO position/GM.
It won't matter who our offensive coordinator is...  
Klaatu : 1/18/2020 5:52 pm : link
If we don't upgrade our miserable offensive line. After two years, it's still just as lousy as it was when Gettleman took over.
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I am Ninja : 1/18/2020 6:57 pm : link
The thing I like about Garrett is he isn't a bumbling fucking moron. We have had too many of those around here.
RE: RE: He was run out of Dallas  
Go Terps : 1/18/2020 11:02 pm : link
In comment 14784914 section125 said:
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In comment 14784531 HomerJones45 said:


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and most of you spent the last 6 or 7 years pointing out what a failure he was. Now, he's the next Vince Lombardi. Yeah, ok. Barkeep, I'll have another BBI Inconsistency



No inconsistency at all. HJ45 with another negative post that is as irrelevant as bell bottom pants.
Do you ever post a GD thing that is positive, or just sit in your parents cellar in your shorts and spew venom. You, Terps and jcn56 need a break from BBI and give the rest of us a break from insistent negativity. It is truly grating. Have a few month of happiness for once in your life.


As ever, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Criticizing the Giants and casting a skeptical eye on them isn't negativity. It's just reacting to reality.

There are a bunch of mouth breathers on this board that would support the Giants' decision to sign an inanimate carbon rod to play left tackle... Which is basically what they actually did.

We aren't being negative. The team actually does suck. It actually has been poorly run. These are facts, like saying grass is green.

If that's too much for you to take, then you're too fucking sensitive.
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