I was watching the Giant's video, "The Most Underrated Playoff Win on the Giants Road to Super Bowl 42" about the Cowboys win, and Eli is there throwing darts to guys. A lot of good memories.
And it's strange to come here, and Eli Manning is just forgotten. We've all moved on. This is Daniel Jones's team now.
I'm not complaining, I just a bit sad and strange. You come to BBI and no one is talking about Eli's legacy or anything of the sort.
Eli Manning has been a great Giant, but this is the NFL. Times change. Players come, players go. Gotta look toward next year. Sadly, the first one without Eli in a long, long time.
Mara's version of the story really didn't make sense at the time. First McAdoo proposes the split-time plan to Eli (who declines it). Then I guess McAdoo goes to Mara and tells him he's decided to bench Eli. Mara appears to sign off on this plan, but later said his hope was that he'd have time to go back and re-discuss with McAdoo before the decision was announced (wut?). Then the Geno-led Giants lose to Oakland. McAdoo and Reese are fired a day or two later.
Something about this version of events doesn't add up. What would make sense would be if McAdoo went ahead with benching Eli without Mara's approval. Then the firing makes sense, and Mara publicly takes on some share of the blame, since he's not going anywhere.
Yeah time to move on, but Eli is a legend. Legends are forever.
Looking forward to taking the trip to Canton for him.
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broken when he was healthy.. Could not believe that happened. Management should have stepped up. Mara is a phony punk for not doing that.
Mara's version of the story really didn't make sense at the time. First McAdoo proposes the split-time plan to Eli (who declines it). Then I guess McAdoo goes to Mara and tells him he's decided to bench Eli. Mara appears to sign off on this plan, but later said his hope was that he'd have time to go back and re-discuss with McAdoo before the decision was announced (wut?). Then the Geno-led Giants lose to Oakland. McAdoo and Reese are fired a day or two later.
Something about this version of events doesn't add up. What would make sense would be if McAdoo went ahead with benching Eli without Mara's approval. Then the firing makes sense, and Mara publicly takes on some share of the blame, since he's not going anywhere.
To be blunt: Mara lies about his role in the decision making almost 100% of the time.
He'll be on TV constantly like his brother and be there for every Giants event.
The season isn't even over. The NFL and the Giants don't want him to be the story right now.
We'll get bombarded with Manning in 2 weeks, don't worry.
The show goes on, and nothing else lasts forever.
NFL is pretty cold that way.
Wow, pretty big statement for a guy with a 50-50 record and very mediocre stats. But I will admit, his longevity is admirable. I think because played some many more years is perhaps why you believe he is the 2nd best Giant ever. He’s played a million years.....not many can compare with that. But playing many years does not make him great. He was mediocre for many of those years. But of course, he did give us two exciting playoff runs which does make him a player we will always remember, appreciate, and love.
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this franchise has ever had
Wow, pretty big statement for a guy with a 50-50 record and very mediocre stats. But I will admit, his longevity is admirable. I think because played some many more years is perhaps why you believe he is the 2nd best Giant ever. He’s played a million years.....not many can compare with that. But playing many years does not make him great. He was mediocre for many of those years. But of course, he did give us two exciting playoff runs which does make him a player we will always remember, appreciate, and love.
There’s no way you’re a real person.
There's an old Arabic proverb that fits: The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
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this franchise has ever had
Wow, pretty big statement for a guy with a 50-50 record and very mediocre stats. But I will admit, his longevity is admirable. I think because played some many more years is perhaps why you believe he is the 2nd best Giant ever. He’s played a million years.....not many can compare with that. But playing many years does not make him great. He was mediocre for many of those years. But of course, he did give us two exciting playoff runs which does make him a player we will always remember, appreciate, and love.
There’s no way you’re a real person.
Says the guy who changes names every 3 months.....
Just came on December 2019
What was your last name? And the one before that?
He’s a troll I assume? No one is that dumb.
At his best, Eli was very good, and occasionally great. He made a few of the most memorable throws in the history of the NFL, to Tyree, Manningham, and the underrated one to Bradshaw.
But then the air leaked out. Eli kept his job while going 41-65 in his last 106 starts, offering fewer reasons over time to hope he could still be the same QB, given a stronger supporting cast. He may not have been the problem, but he wasn’t the solution either.
The Daniel Jones Giants probably won’t win two Super Bowls. They probably won’t win any. What Jones offers is hope, and a blank slate for fans to speculate. All Eli offers, at this point, is nostalgia and debates about seasons long over. He isn’t forgotten. He’s just yesterday’s news... which means he isn’t news at all.
Other than all that what are we supposed to do? He's not on the team anymore and this fans are anxious to see some wins sometime soon after almost a decade of failure. We have the worst record of any team in the league the last 3 years.
Sounds very Obi Wan Kenobi
I bet they will be popular...
[quote] broken when he was healthy.. Could not believe that happened. Management should have stepped up. Mara is a phony punk for not doing that. [/quote
Except at that point the offense hadn't scored 30 points In 2 full seasons and eli was clearly apart of the problem.
Fans are tired of losing, most care more about the team than Eli. He is not going to get better at 39 years of age, fans were ready to move on. Pretty normal reaction if you ask me.
Speaking of clueless...
his place became polarizing to fans, ownership and coaches. Not his fault -
But not having that issue on the front burner is a good thing for this team.
At his best, Eli was very good, and occasionally great. He made a few of the most memorable throws in the history of the NFL, to Tyree, Manningham, and the underrated one to Bradshaw.
But then the air leaked out. Eli kept his job while going 41-65 in his last 106 starts, offering fewer reasons over time to hope he could still be the same QB, given a stronger supporting cast. He may not have been the problem, but he wasn’t the solution either.
The Daniel Jones Giants probably won’t win two Super Bowls. They probably won’t win any. What Jones offers is hope, and a blank slate for fans to speculate. All Eli offers, at this point, is nostalgia and debates about seasons long over. He isn’t forgotten. He’s just yesterday’s news... which means he isn’t news at all.
This is spot on. Everything after 2011 has been a nightmare, for both Eli and the Giants. I'm not sure there's a game worth remembering in the 8 years since the Super Bowl win.
8 years is a long time.
At his best, Eli was very good, and occasionally great. He made a few of the most memorable throws in the history of the NFL, to Tyree, Manningham, and the underrated one to Bradshaw.
But then the air leaked out. Eli kept his job while going 41-65 in his last 106 starts, offering fewer reasons over time to hope he could still be the same QB, given a stronger supporting cast. He may not have been the problem, but he wasn’t the solution either.
The Daniel Jones Giants probably won’t win two Super Bowls. They probably won’t win any. What Jones offers is hope, and a blank slate for fans to speculate. All Eli offers, at this point, is nostalgia and debates about seasons long over. He isn’t forgotten. He’s just yesterday’s news... which means he isn’t news at all.
It’s incredible that the team won 2 Super Bowls in a 5-year window. It really impacted decision making & I agree that was the window, 2007-2012. Eli had some nice statistical years in 14 & 15, but it was not the same.
It’s important to ask why when a franchise has been as bad as it has. This is the answer - 2 SB’s in a 5 years made it easy to think there could be a third from 2013-2019, decision making proved this. The Saints have had a 14 year window with Brees and only have 1 title. The Packers have also had a 14 year window with Rodgers with only 1 title.
It’s why I think the Judge hiring represents a new direction.
Tribesmen repeat certain phrases through whispers, and loudly chant others.
They also recite in a monotone manner (similar to Catholic Latin mass) the inscription that Walker left them.
Like Captain Walker, Captain Eli will be remembered thru the ages.
A lot of losing, some longevity stats and two rings won primarily because of the defense?
The way our fan base talks about Eli you would think his resume looks like Roger's, Brees or even Rothlesberger.
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I have no idea how you can call yourself a Giants fan and sit on here and dog what he has accomplished.
A lot of losing, some longevity stats and two rings won primarily because of the defense?
The way our fan base talks about Eli you would think his resume looks like Roger's, Brees or even Rothlesberger.
I'm guessing a Gatorade Dump dupe...
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I have no idea how you can call yourself a Giants fan and sit on here and dog what he has accomplished.
A lot of losing, some longevity stats and two rings won primarily because of the defense?
The way our fan base talks about Eli you would think his resume looks like Roger's, Brees or even Rothlesberger.
Fuck off Dupe
I personally will always love Eli Manning as much as Strahan, LT, Simms, Banks, Hampton, Jacobs, Carson, Pepper, Jumbo.