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AFC Championship Game: Titans at Chiefs

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2020 8:45 am
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Go Chiefs!  
Grey Pilgrim : 1/19/2020 8:48 am : link
Would like to see Andy Reid win the big one!
Go Titans  
UConn4523 : 1/19/2020 8:51 am : link
Henry has been very fun to watch, best offensive player of the playoffs so far IMO.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2020 8:51 am : link
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Danny Kanell : 1/19/2020 8:52 am : link
Go Chiefs!
I've been pulling for the Chiefs...  
BMac : 1/19/2020 8:58 am : link
...but the Titans remind me of a rag-tag group in 2007 that got hot and chewed up the rest of the field.
Chiefs are winning.  
Ryan in Albany : 1/19/2020 9:00 am : link
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This is a really, really interesting game.  
cosmicj : 1/19/2020 9:23 am : link
The Titans look like they’re designed to beat a team like the Chiefs. And Chris Jones is dinged up, to make that matchup even worse.

But then you have Mahomes on the other team and they are heavily favored.

This looks to be a classic.

Since moving to Mo.  
Ozarkman : 1/19/2020 9:26 am : link
In 04, I slowly became a Chiefs fan. After going to home opener last year, became a big fan. (Until they play Giants.). Go Chiefs!
Chiefs have the better team  
JoeFootball : 1/19/2020 9:30 am : link
But Andy Reid usually finds a way to lose this game.
RE: ...  
UConn4523 : 1/19/2020 9:36 am : link
In comment 14785312 Eric from BBI said:
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I’m not big on “bulletin board material” so I don’t think this does anything but it’s a dumb comment because he does run hard, haha. Guy has almost 400 rushing yards in the playoffs against 2 of the top run defenses in the league - pretty sure he’s running hard.
Kind of a stupid comment from Chris Jones  
90.Cal : 1/19/2020 10:07 am : link
No, a really stupid comment... I hope Henry steps right on his chest.
RE: This is a really, really interesting game.  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/19/2020 10:32 am : link
In comment 14785340 cosmicj said:
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The Titans look like they’re designed to beat a team like the Chiefs. And Chris Jones is dinged up, to make that matchup even worse.

But then you have Mahomes on the other team and they are heavily favored.

This looks to be a classic.


+1

It's like Andy Reid's vision of football, versus Vince Lombardi's.

Spags, to me, is the key to this one more than Reid. What does he do to stop Henry? What CAN he do to stop Henry?

Cuz if Henry (and the Titans' OL) rolls, KC's offense and Mahomes doesn't get to see the field that often. Vrabel channeling BB channelling the Tuna.
RE: I've been pulling for the Chiefs...  
jnoble : 1/19/2020 10:38 am : link
In comment 14785317 BMac said:
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...but the Titans remind me of a rag-tag group in 2007 that got hot and chewed up the rest of the field.


The Titans have had a nice underdog story so far with a cast off QB at the helm but my gut feeling all week has been that the Chiefs are going to blow them out of the water 41-17 or similar
I wouldn't be surprised to see a shoot-out.  
Jalapeno : 1/19/2020 10:48 am : link
Last team with the ball wins sort of game.
I’m wondering if the prototype for this game  
cosmicj : 1/19/2020 11:07 am : link
Is our own Giants Super Bowl win over the Bills.
Got KC and the over.  
Crispino : 1/19/2020 11:47 am : link
Let’s see a high scoring KC win!
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McNally's_Nuts : 1/19/2020 11:58 am : link
In comment 14785314 Danny Kanell said:
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Go Chiefs!


Yup.

Now that Reid isn’t coaching in ugly green, I’d like to see him win. Mahomes is so fun to watch.
Some serious money has come in on Tenn.  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 12:13 pm : link
They were at +7.5 earlier this week, now at +7
First time in a long time  
jerseyboyLAX : 1/19/2020 12:15 pm : link
that I can watch a game for pure enjoyment, as I'm a fan of both teams....Titans for their scrappy playoff run thus far and Chiefs for their ability to go 'pinball' on offense PLUS their D has stepped up...looking forward to this one
This Titans team reminds me of 2007 Giants  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 12:16 pm : link
In how they love the underdog role and feed on it. If they can limit KC's drives they have a real chance here. Running Henrey can do this
First run for Titans last week...  
trueblueinpw : 1/19/2020 12:20 pm : link
Henry was tackled for a minimal gain and the Ravens defenders were all fired up and clapping after the play. As far as I could tell that was the last play they seem to enthusiastic about tackling the beast that is Derrick Henry. So, Chris Jones and the KC defense might have a similar experience today. Henry is a punishing back and every yard and hit be delivers is small but demoralizing defeat for the defense. And of course a ground and pound game keeps the great Mahomes on the sideline.

Agree this one has all the makings of a classic. I’m rooting for the Titans all the way. Love the smash mouth smarty pants with a lunch pail personality that Vrabel has crafted for his Titans . It’s a tall task for the Titans defense, there’s just so much firepower on the Chefs offense but if the Titans can keep it close, this game may come down to an Andy Reid sideline fumble.
Henry On The One Hand  
Percy : 1/19/2020 12:25 pm : link
Mahomes on the other. Ought to be worthy contest.
I like the Titans. Let's upset the chefs.  
GiantsUA : 1/19/2020 12:27 pm : link
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Heart says Titans win  
Dave in PA : 1/19/2020 1:04 pm : link
Head says KC wins and does so in impressive fashion
curious if the walrus has the chiefs  
mdc1 : 1/19/2020 1:20 pm : link
ready to play, from last's weeks getting down by 28pts earlier makes me wonder more. If he falters, not so sure Mahomes will come racing back like he did last week.

Chiefs should win if they play offense well today, as they have too much firepower.
Chris Jones is playing  
KWALL2 : 1/19/2020 1:33 pm : link
If hes ok, this could be the difference.

Love this matchup. Tannehill is going to have to step up here. Just a few big plays are needed to TE Smith and some of the WRs.

Corey Davis? Is it your time to show up this season?
RE: Kind of a stupid comment from Chris Jones  
Mr. Bungle : 1/19/2020 1:50 pm : link
In comment 14785385 90.Cal said:
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No, a really stupid comment... I hope Henry steps right on his chest.

Frank Clark said it.
Tyreek Hill just got introduced..  
Mr. Bungle : 1/19/2020 3:00 pm : link
Got on all fours, lifted his leg, and pretended to pee.
RE: Tyreek Hill just got introduced..  
jeff57 : 1/19/2020 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14785726 Mr. Bungle said:
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Got on all fours, lifted his leg, and pretended to pee.


OBJ-classy
A.J. Brown  
jeff57 : 1/19/2020 3:10 pm : link
Is a beast
RE: Tyreek Hill just got introduced..  
NDMedics : 1/19/2020 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14785726 Mr. Bungle said:
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Got on all fours, lifted his leg, and pretended to pee.



I was on the fence but that made me a Titans fan.
I guess I'm rooting for KC  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/19/2020 3:11 pm : link
But I just want a good game.
I love how CBS is promoting The Masters  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/19/2020 3:14 pm : link
On JANUARY 19TH. Hahaha. It's like 3 months away.
KC drops a lot of passes  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/19/2020 3:19 pm : link
Kelce should have had it there on 3rd down.
Andy Reid  
jeff57 : 1/19/2020 3:19 pm : link
1-5 in conference championship games
RE: I love how CBS is promoting The Masters  
RDJR : 1/19/2020 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14785743 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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On JANUARY 19TH. Hahaha. It's like 3 months away.


They were promoting it in November.
God, Henry is a beast.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/19/2020 3:20 pm : link
I'd piss my pants if he was barreling towards me.
Titans  
Motley Two : 1/19/2020 3:21 pm : link
Gonna hurt these boys
KC is gonna need their big plays today
Not a catch  
bubba0825 : 1/19/2020 3:22 pm : link
Should have been holding to
WTF  
Maijay : 1/19/2020 3:22 pm : link
was Hill thinking. A complete and utter asshole that should be fined.
That hit the ground.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/19/2020 3:22 pm : link
Should be overturned.
Remember the Titans  
jeff57 : 1/19/2020 3:30 pm : link
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Man, the Titans are a scary, scary  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/19/2020 3:30 pm : link
team. Dominating TOP too.
came into the game rooting for the Chiefs  
Steve in ATL : 1/19/2020 3:33 pm : link
but hate the chop chant by the fans. Happy that Henry and the Titans shut them up.
Smashmouth  
AcidTest : 1/19/2020 3:33 pm : link
slobberknocker football from Tennessee. Nothing fancy. Just line up and punch people.

Henry makes Tannehill so much better. Play action works so well because of how hard Henry runs. A punishing, downhill runner.
So amazed and forgot  
mrvax : 1/19/2020 3:47 pm : link
just how good an NFL game can be with 2 good teams!
Titans remind me of 2007 Giants.  
RDJR : 1/19/2020 3:51 pm : link
On one of those runs.
Tony romo  
bubba0825 : 1/19/2020 3:54 pm : link
Is also really good explaining the game
Cant stand  
XBRONX : 1/19/2020 3:57 pm : link
Romo's raspy voice and often very obvious comments.
Stupid  
XBRONX : 1/19/2020 3:59 pm : link
Romo, Conklin is not a guard
Bad penalty on tenn  
micky : 1/19/2020 3:59 pm : link
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Refs wanting to show their faces again  
Route 9 : 1/19/2020 4:00 pm : link
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Halftime Fun!  
mrvax : 1/19/2020 4:01 pm : link
Enjoy!
2007 NFC Champ Game 10 minute highlights - ( New Window )
Offensive lineman touchdown lol  
Route 9 : 1/19/2020 4:04 pm : link
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What a call  
Saquads26 : 1/19/2020 4:04 pm : link
!!!
This is a well  
TommyWiseau : 1/19/2020 4:04 pm : link
coached football team.
That was an awesome drive...  
bw in dc : 1/19/2020 4:05 pm : link
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A  
AcidTest : 1/19/2020 4:05 pm : link
15 play, eight minute drive. Ram it right down their throats. Henry then play action for a short TD.
Bad job by Spags  
Saquads26 : 1/19/2020 4:05 pm : link
Ill prepared
RE: That was an awesome drive...  
Steve in ATL : 1/19/2020 4:06 pm : link
In comment 14785800 bw in dc said:
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Love the way the Titans play football.
Vrabel  
Giantimistic : 1/19/2020 4:06 pm : link
Showing how you use every player you have.
Chief committing too many  
section125 : 1/19/2020 4:06 pm : link
mental errors. 3 offsides, two for 1st downs. a PI on 3rd and 22???
Tennessee looking special right now...
KC never out of it with that offensive talent.  
RDJR : 1/19/2020 4:07 pm : link
However, Vrabel shortening the game is key. Like BP in Supe 21.
this game is a hoot--pure pleasure  
ColHowPepper : 1/19/2020 4:07 pm : link
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LOL  
Route 9 : 1/19/2020 4:11 pm : link
Heaviest guy to score a touchdown. Imagine saying that in womens sports? Heaviest woman to score a goal in hockey.
stream link?  
flycatcher : 1/19/2020 4:11 pm : link
anyone? TIA
Great  
AcidTest : 1/19/2020 4:12 pm : link
response from KC. Such a contrast in styles from these two teams.
RE: Great  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/19/2020 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14785813 AcidTest said:
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response from KC. Such a contrast in styles from these two teams.


Acid, I was thinking the same. TN is a run first, clock killing offense while KC airs it out in quick drives.
RE: LOL  
flycatcher : 1/19/2020 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14785810 Route 9 said:
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Heaviest guy to score a touchdown. Imagine saying that in womens sports? Heaviest woman to score a goal in hockey.

ha right, the pitfalls of PC - there's no rule book but you better not say the wrong thing
RE: Great  
Mr. Bungle : 1/19/2020 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14785813 AcidTest said:
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response from KC. Such a contrast in styles from these two teams.

Which is why the "to win in today's NFL, you have to..." mindsets are so wrong.

There's more than one way to win the today's NFL, as always.
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Route 9 : 1/19/2020 4:17 pm : link
Tennessee needs a big drive before the half
TN really couldn't afford a 3 & out there.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/19/2020 4:19 pm : link
Damn.
Real good football game.  
RDJR : 1/19/2020 4:19 pm : link
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KC getting away with a bunch of holding  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 4:26 pm : link
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Mahomes  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/19/2020 4:29 pm : link
JFC.
Bad job by the Titans  
jeff57 : 1/19/2020 4:29 pm : link
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That looked like some Giants defense  
Saquads26 : 1/19/2020 4:29 pm : link
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That could be a killer for Tenn  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 4:30 pm : link
KC gets the ball back at the start of the 2nd half
What  
AcidTest : 1/19/2020 4:30 pm : link
a run by Mahomes.
Holy smokes  
j_rud : 1/19/2020 4:30 pm : link
Thats heartbreaking if your a Tenn fan
Wow. Mahomes.  
Route 9 : 1/19/2020 4:30 pm : link
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Tackle first, strip ball second  
TheWalrus : 1/19/2020 4:30 pm : link
What on earth was 35 doing there?
Bad D  
XBRONX : 1/19/2020 4:30 pm : link
bad tackling and blind refs.
Good  
Big Al : 1/19/2020 4:30 pm : link
Tackling.
fuck..  
Producer : 1/19/2020 4:31 pm : link
what a play that was.. a defining play if they go all the way..
RE: Mahomes  
NoPeanutz : 1/19/2020 4:31 pm : link
In comment 14785828 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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JFC.

Tons of holding. But I haven't seen defense like that since the 2019 Giants cleaned out their lockers.
The no pressure D on that final drive was positively Betcher-esque.
Vrabel's crew really screwed the pooch, and may not get a second chance.
Infuriating that they let these frauds off the hook.
Mahommes is a hell of qb  
micky : 1/19/2020 4:32 pm : link
Envy
KKK: Keeping it Klassy in KC  
NoPeanutz : 1/19/2020 4:33 pm : link
with the tomahawk chop.
Tackling the QB is still legal.  
GiantsUA : 1/19/2020 4:34 pm : link
Someone should lay him out next time he dancing around.
RE: KKK: Keeping it Klassy in KC  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 4:35 pm : link
In comment 14785844 NoPeanutz said:
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with the tomahawk chop.

The best part about FSU sucking was not having to hear that chant with the chop
RE: KKK: Keeping it Klassy in KC  
Route 9 : 1/19/2020 4:38 pm : link
In comment 14785844 NoPeanutz said:
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with the tomahawk chop.


KKK derp derp derp running loose at the KC Chiefs game
When you bet the under  
Prude : 1/19/2020 4:41 pm : link
And you aleady broke the tv and kicked down the front doir by halftime. These teams couldn't stop a nun from spreading her legs
Connection  
Simms : 1/19/2020 4:45 pm : link
I believe there original architecture company designed Arrowhead and Giants Stadium, pre TunaCan Metlife.

Regardless it reminded reminded me of the old stadium and better times.
Online link? - the Reddit NFL Stream looks blank now  
V.I.G. : 1/19/2020 4:46 pm : link
out of the country, thank you in advance
Full shot of Andy Reid  
jeff57 : 1/19/2020 4:53 pm : link
Now I have a hankering for some High C.
RE: Full shot of Andy Reid  
bubba0825 : 1/19/2020 4:54 pm : link
In comment 14785865 jeff57 said:
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Now I have a hankering for some High C.


Andy looks like he should be on the injury report. Feel bad for the guy
Tennessee needs to hold them to a FG here at the very least  
Route 9 : 1/19/2020 4:57 pm : link
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RE: Online link? - the Reddit NFL Stream looks blank now  
flycatcher : 1/19/2020 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14785859 V.I.G. said:
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out of the country, thank you in advance

http://topstreams.info/nfl/chiefs
http://topstreams.info/nfl/chiefs
Sure looks like KC is getting away with some holding on O  
Eman11 : 1/19/2020 5:00 pm : link
Maybe this crew is just going to call the blatant stuff but there sure were a couple of pretty obvious ones to me that were not called.
They are calling Tenn for holding  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 5:07 pm : link
That is nowhere close to what they are allowing KC to get away with
Tannehill got absolutely belted by Sorensen  
dpinzow : 1/19/2020 5:08 pm : link
In this version of the NFL, it was surprising to see no flag
RE: Online link? - the Reddit NFL Stream looks blank now  
RasputinPrime : 1/19/2020 5:09 pm : link
In comment 14785859 V.I.G. said:
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out of the country, thank you in advance


http://crackstreams.ga/nfl-streams/1/
Titans had their chance  
Route 9 : 1/19/2020 5:15 pm : link
This looks to be over, KCs offense is way too much for Tennessee and Ryan Tannehill to keep up with
Good night from lone pine mall  
Route 9 : 1/19/2020 5:16 pm : link
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Game plan?  
trueblueinpw : 1/19/2020 5:21 pm : link
Romo talking about the game plan and all the great plays. Looks to me like the game plan is to let the best player in the NFL make some spectacular plays.
Titans can't panic. Stick to giving it to Henry  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 5:24 pm : link
Give that D some rest
It's  
AcidTest : 1/19/2020 5:26 pm : link
going to be hard for Tennessee now.
Romo Captain obvious  
XBRONX : 1/19/2020 5:27 pm : link
Titans-something needs to happen here. No shit
Running the football isnt going to work.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/19/2020 5:30 pm : link
Today.


Classic Spags  
ColHowPepper : 1/19/2020 5:31 pm : link
Doing much better than Ravens, Texans
TN isn't built to play from behind.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/19/2020 5:31 pm : link
Oh well.
Ugh. This sucks.  
Leg of Theismann : 1/19/2020 5:33 pm : link
Titans panic just a little and get away from Henry and this is what happens. That play by Mahomes at the end of the 2nd half is really when you saw the Titans style of play change. Mahomes clearly scared the shit out of them. It's what the Chiefs do I suppose.
RE: Romo Captain obvious  
Eman11 : 1/19/2020 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14785889 XBRONX said:
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Titans-something needs to happen here. No shit


Haha, I said the same thing to my buddy. How about earlier when he asked Steratore if the Defensive hold would mean a 1st for Tenn?

The guy can diagnose a play just looking at the formation but doesn't know an obvious penalty enforcement?
2007 Giants they said. Lol.  
Route 9 : 1/19/2020 5:34 pm : link
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Henry gained 7 yards on 4 carries on the previous drive  
shyster : 1/19/2020 5:36 pm : link
That's why Tenn went away from him.

The "just keep giving him the ball" thing doesn't work, even when you have a good RB and good OL.
How in the world did 4 teams  
flycatcher : 1/19/2020 5:38 pm : link
manage to beat KC this year?
There it is, Kansas City's first Super Bowl appearance in 50 years  
dpinzow : 1/19/2020 5:38 pm : link
Chiefs deserve it
That's game  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 5:38 pm : link
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RE: How in the world did 4 teams  
santacruzom : 1/19/2020 5:40 pm : link
In comment 14785905 flycatcher said:
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manage to beat KC this year?


I'm thinking it's just due to injuries.
That’s game  
UConn4523 : 1/19/2020 5:40 pm : link
Tannehill couldnt hide anymore and it showed. Bring on the Packers, hopefully. Want to see 2 top QBs go at it.
RE: How in the world did 4 teams  
dpinzow : 1/19/2020 5:40 pm : link
In comment 14785905 flycatcher said:
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manage to beat KC this year?


Colts beat them (don't know how but they did it)
Houston beat them in the regular season
Titans beat them in Tennessee
Packers beat them without Mahomes
RE: That’s game  
Mr. Bungle : 1/19/2020 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14785909 UConn4523 said:
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Tannehill couldnt hide anymore and it showed. Bring on the Packers, hopefully. Want to see 2 top QBs go at it.

State Farm agrees with you.
RE: That’s game  
WillVAB : 1/19/2020 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14785909 UConn4523 said:
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Tannehill couldnt hide anymore and it showed. Bring on the Packers, hopefully. Want to see 2 top QBs go at it.


Rodgers isn’t a top QB.
Spags over just about anyone for me  
mattlawson : 1/19/2020 5:42 pm : link
Sorely missed
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christian : 1/19/2020 5:42 pm : link
If I'm building a team, I'm building around the deep ball.
Just  
Toth029 : 1/19/2020 5:42 pm : link
Remember the Chiefs beat the Vikings without Mahomes.

Andy Reid is an amazing coach. Lets see if he finally gets a ring out of it.
RE: ...  
Toth029 : 1/19/2020 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14785916 christian said:
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If I'm building a team, I'm building around the deep ball.

Good luck. Finding several quality receivers plus a strong armed, accurate QB, sounds cupcake.
Here comes the Tannehill turn over  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 5:43 pm : link
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RE: RE: That’s game  
FStubbs : 1/19/2020 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14785912 WillVAB said:
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In comment 14785909 UConn4523 said:


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Tannehill couldnt hide anymore and it showed. Bring on the Packers, hopefully. Want to see 2 top QBs go at it.



Rodgers isn’t a top QB.


Okay, I'm going to bite. You've got to explain this one.
RE: Spags over just about anyone for me  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2020 5:45 pm : link
In comment 14785914 mattlawson said:
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Sorely missed


Based on one season?
Tannehill is getting exposed now.  
FStubbs : 1/19/2020 5:45 pm : link
When he can't just hand it off to Henry and make the occasional low risk pass, he's the same guy Miami gave up on.
How did the Chiefs not play for a fake punt  
dpinzow : 1/19/2020 5:45 pm : link
i mean they know the game is over if they don't fake it
RE: How did the Chiefs not play for a fake punt  
bubba0825 : 1/19/2020 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14785923 dpinzow said:
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i mean they know the game is over if they don't fake it


I’m half in the bag and I knew it was coming.
RE: RE: That’s game  
John In CO : 1/19/2020 5:47 pm : link
In comment 14785912 WillVAB said:
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In comment 14785909 UConn4523 said:


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Tannehill couldnt hide anymore and it showed. Bring on the Packers, hopefully. Want to see 2 top QBs go at it.



Rodgers isn’t a top QB.


Its fine if you want to hate the guy; plenty do. Im not a huge fan of the guy myself off the field. However, to say that he is not a top QB?

Seriously???
Obvious fake punt  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 5:47 pm : link
Was not obvious to KC
RE: Obvious fake punt  
TheWalrus : 1/19/2020 5:49 pm : link
In comment 14785926 montanagiant said:
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Was not obvious to KC



The Spagnuolo Effect
Onside or not?  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 5:50 pm : link
I would do it
Tannehill plays like a guy who was poorly coached his whole career  
TheWalrus : 1/19/2020 5:50 pm : link
Have fun Jets
RE: RE: RE: That’s game  
WillVAB : 1/19/2020 5:52 pm : link
In comment 14785925 John In CO said:
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In comment 14785912 WillVAB said:


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In comment 14785909 UConn4523 said:


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Tannehill couldnt hide anymore and it showed. Bring on the Packers, hopefully. Want to see 2 top QBs go at it.



Rodgers isn’t a top QB.



Its fine if you want to hate the guy; plenty do. Im not a huge fan of the guy myself off the field. However, to say that he is not a top QB?

Seriously???


He’s just not. He might’ve been 4-5 years ago but he’s not now. You’ll see in a few hours.
RE: RE: That’s game  
Producer : 1/19/2020 5:52 pm : link
In comment 14785912 WillVAB said:
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In comment 14785909 UConn4523 said:


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Tannehill couldnt hide anymore and it showed. Bring on the Packers, hopefully. Want to see 2 top QBs go at it.



Rodgers isn’t a top QB.


yea umm ok.. he's only the most gifted player at the position from his elevation to starter until Mahomes entered the league. If you don't know that, you don't know football.
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Go Terps : 1/19/2020 5:52 pm : link
Winning in the NFL is not about running the ball and stopping the run. Once you've controlled for injuries, it's about:

1. Making chunk plays on offense (for most teams this is throwing the ball; for Baltimore it's also running the ball with the quarterback)
2. Limiting chunk plays on defense (Belichick has understood this for years, focusing on limiting big plays and using red zone defense to turn TDs into FGs)
3. Turnovers

If I had to set a goal for the Giants in 2020 it's to get Jones's YPA up above 7.5. Along with turnovers that well correlate most to wins, IMO.
RE: How did the Chiefs not play for a fake punt  
Leg of Theismann : 1/19/2020 5:53 pm : link
In comment 14785923 dpinzow said:
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i mean they know the game is over if they don't fake it


Like Romo said... even if you play for a fake punt, i.e. drop guys back instead of rush the punter, there are still holes there you can exploit, just like any defense, you just have to find them. Simply "playing for a fake punt" does not automatically mean you're going to stop a fake punt. Just like "playing for a pass" on 3rd down doesn't mean you're necessarily getting off the field.
The refs strike again  
bubba0825 : 1/19/2020 5:54 pm : link
This needs to be overturned
not  
rocco8112 : 1/19/2020 5:54 pm : link
pi

his hand even hit the ball

NFL must really want a repeat of Super Bowl I  
TheWalrus : 1/19/2020 5:55 pm : link
for their 100th anniversary.
How do they not challenged that?  
bubba0825 : 1/19/2020 5:55 pm : link
Baffled
I have no dog in this fight  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 5:56 pm : link
But these Refs have been all about KC and really screwing Tenn
RE: How do they not challenged that?  
TheWalrus : 1/19/2020 5:57 pm : link
In comment 14785942 bubba0825 said:
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Baffled


Only 1 timeout left and the league has yet to overturn one PI call, doubt they were going to now
on what planet  
rocco8112 : 1/19/2020 5:58 pm : link
is that pass interference?

didnt play the ball? He actually made contact with the under thrown ball

defender has right to ball too and has position on underthrown ball and was in trail position of WR, he did turn back too and made contact with the ball
RE: RE: Spags over just about anyone for me  
christian : 1/19/2020 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14785921 Eric from BBI said:
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Sorely missed



Based on one season?


The Giants have had a top 5 defense 4 times in the last 20 seasons, 2 were under Spags, and they won a Super Bowl in another season.

The best defense the Giants have seen in this era was under Spags. The wild part is the worst defenses this team has seen have been under him as well.
RE: RE: How do they not challenged that?  
bubba0825 : 1/19/2020 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14785945 TheWalrus said:
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Baffled



Only 1 timeout left and the league has yet to overturn one PI call, doubt they were going to now



they are going to lose now anyway, and the profile 100% helps. You have to challenge that. Big mistake by a good coach
Wow  
bubba0825 : 1/19/2020 6:00 pm : link
Check this out, makes you wonder
Link - ( New Window )
christian  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2020 6:02 pm : link
I love Spags for 2007, but his entire reputation is almost entirely based on that one season. He had 2-3 of the worst defenses in the HISTORY of the entire NFL... we are talking record-breaking bad. (Don't blame that on lack of talent).

The KC defense this year? This like the 1999 Rams, when their defense was highly rated but it was because everyone got one dimensional against them because they couldn't keep up with the Rams offense.
RE: Ugh. This sucks.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/19/2020 6:04 pm : link
In comment 14785898 Leg of Theismann said:
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Titans panic just a little and get away from Henry and this is what happens. That play by Mahomes at the end of the 2nd half is really when you saw the Titans style of play change. Mahomes clearly scared the shit out of them. It's what the Chiefs do I suppose.


I mean they werent going to keep up just pounding the ball. The only way their model works is when they can stop the opposing offense.
RE: Wow  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 6:05 pm : link
In comment 14785952 bubba0825 said:
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Check this out, makes you wonder Link - ( New Window )

That is some BS right there
RE: christian  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/19/2020 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14785955 Eric from BBI said:
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I love Spags for 2007, but his entire reputation is almost entirely based on that one season. He had 2-3 of the worst defenses in the HISTORY of the entire NFL... we are talking record-breaking bad. (Don't blame that on lack of talent).

The KC defense this year? This like the 1999 Rams, when their defense was highly rated but it was because everyone got one dimensional against them because they couldn't keep up with the Rams offense.


You fail to mention how much NFL offenses have changed in that time frame as well.
RE: RE: Wow  
bubba0825 : 1/19/2020 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14785957 montanagiant said:
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Check this out, makes you wonder Link - ( New Window )


That is some BS right there


How can the nfl defend this? Clearly not on the up and up
RE: christian  
christian : 1/19/2020 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14785955 Eric from BBI said:
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I love Spags for 2007, but his entire reputation is almost entirely based on that one season. He had 2-3 of the worst defenses in the HISTORY of the entire NFL... we are talking record-breaking bad. (Don't blame that on lack of talent).

The KC defense this year? This like the 1999 Rams, when their defense was highly rated but it was because everyone got one dimensional against them because they couldn't keep up with the Rams offense.


That discounts 2 top 5 defenses (08 & 16) which were has actual two best years.

Super strange career, with a few really good and really bad years.
RE: RE: RE: Wow  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/19/2020 6:08 pm : link
In comment 14785961 bubba0825 said:
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Check this out, makes you wonder Link - ( New Window )


That is some BS right there



How can the nfl defend this? Clearly not on the up and up


There was actually a clear hold on the play. Who cares when he threw the flag.
RE: RE: RE: Wow  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 6:08 pm : link
In comment 14785961 bubba0825 said:
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Check this out, makes you wonder Link - ( New Window )


That is some BS right there



How can the nfl defend this? Clearly not on the up and up

They can't even say it was for another penalty because they would have announced 2 penalties on the play
BigBlueDownTheShore  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2020 6:08 pm : link
I don't understand your point.

I believe Spags still holds the NFL record for the worst NFL defenses.
RE: RE: RE: That’s game  
UConn4523 : 1/19/2020 6:08 pm : link
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Tannehill couldnt hide anymore and it showed. Bring on the Packers, hopefully. Want to see 2 top QBs go at it.



Rodgers isn’t a top QB.



yea umm ok.. he's only the most gifted player at the position from his elevation to starter until Mahomes entered the league. If you don't know that, you don't know football.


He’s most certainly a top QB. He played basically the entire season save for a few games with his top WR and the replacement WRs might not have started for the Giants.

Name all the QBs that threw for 4,000 yards over 25 scores and turned the ball over as little as he did. I’ll wait.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Wow  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 6:09 pm : link
In comment 14785963 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Check this out, makes you wonder Link - ( New Window )


That is some BS right there



How can the nfl defend this? Clearly not on the up and up



There was actually a clear hold on the play. Who cares when he threw the flag.

Well if it's thrown prior to the hold that is indeed an issue
Congrats to the Chiefs!  
NYerInMA : 1/19/2020 6:09 pm : link
I'll be rooting for them in two weeks!
As they say  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 6:10 pm : link
There is holding on every single play
christian  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2020 6:12 pm : link
I've give you 2008 and 2016, but I don't think we Giants fans remember him for those two years. I think we loved his personality and we loved that 2007 team so much that we glorify him a bit too much.
Congrats to Reid, Mahomes and the Chiefs  
Ira : 1/19/2020 6:12 pm : link
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RE: RE: christian  
FStubbs : 1/19/2020 6:12 pm : link
In comment 14785962 christian said:
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I love Spags for 2007, but his entire reputation is almost entirely based on that one season. He had 2-3 of the worst defenses in the HISTORY of the entire NFL... we are talking record-breaking bad. (Don't blame that on lack of talent).

The KC defense this year? This like the 1999 Rams, when their defense was highly rated but it was because everyone got one dimensional against them because they couldn't keep up with the Rams offense.



That discounts 2 top 5 defenses (08 & 16) which were has actual two best years.

Super strange career, with a few really good and really bad years.


The thing with Spagnuolo is if you give him good players, he can give you a great defense. If you give him mediocre or worse players, all bets are off.
I kind of want Andy Reid to win so  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/19/2020 6:13 pm : link
Angelo Cataldi eats a giant shit sandwich.
RE: christian  
christian : 1/19/2020 6:16 pm : link
In comment 14785973 Eric from BBI said:
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I've give you 2008 and 2016, but I don't think we Giants fans remember him for those two years. I think we loved his personality and we loved that 2007 team so much that we glorify him a bit too much.


I think he's both a high maintenance guy and coach. He needs things to be really right, or he really underperforms.

He blew it in St. Louis and he blew here in 2017. I give him a pass for New Orleans because the org was a mess.

But reality is the guy has a chance to coordinate 2 championships.
Congrats Reid, Mahomes, and Chiefs!  
ZogZerg : 1/19/2020 6:19 pm : link
One more game to go.
I’d like Reid, a HOF coach, imo,  
Big Blue '56 : 1/19/2020 6:21 pm : link
to get that trophy, now that he’s no longer an Eagle
christian  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2020 6:21 pm : link
But how much of the the 2019 KC defense is similar to the 1999 St. Louis defense? You know who was the defensive coordinator of that team? Peter Giunta. Remember him? That Rams defense finished 4th in the NFL. But it really wasn't THAT good. It was rated that good because everyone fell so far behind the Rams.
Congratulations  
Simms : 1/19/2020 6:23 pm : link
KC , Reid, Spags etc. 60 minutes away from a possible repeat of SB #1, where tickets were six dollars. And possibly the first State Farm Bowl. Niners look tough to beat ....
That's one big woman back there.  
Route 9 : 1/19/2020 6:26 pm : link
BEAST.
Reid has a rep as a choker  
Dave on the UWS : 1/19/2020 6:31 pm : link
in the playoffs. I would like to see him get the big one.
RE: RE: RE: RE: That’s game  
WillVAB : 1/19/2020 7:02 pm : link
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Tannehill couldnt hide anymore and it showed. Bring on the Packers, hopefully. Want to see 2 top QBs go at it.



Rodgers isn’t a top QB.



yea umm ok.. he's only the most gifted player at the position from his elevation to starter until Mahomes entered the league. If you don't know that, you don't know football.



He’s most certainly a top QB. He played basically the entire season save for a few games with his top WR and the replacement WRs might not have started for the Giants.

Name all the QBs that threw for 4,000 yards over 25 scores and turned the ball over as little as he did. I’ll wait.


The Packers ran way above expectation this year. Rodgers had an OK year but he was hardly exceptional and the Packers skated by on an easy schedule.

He plays safe. Safe is ok if you’re a game manager.
I'm torn...  
Torrag : 1/19/2020 7:09 pm : link
I never want Andy Reid to win anything but I have a near genetic programming to despise the 49ers. I also don't like Rodgers he's a discount double checking douchehbag.

I guess Reid is the lesser of three evils right now and I do like Mahomes. That kid can ball.
RE: christian  
christian : 1/19/2020 7:14 pm : link
In comment 14785991 Eric from BBI said:
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But how much of the the 2019 KC defense is similar to the 1999 St. Louis defense? You know who was the defensive coordinator of that team? Peter Giunta. Remember him? That Rams defense finished 4th in the NFL. But it really wasn't THAT good. It was rated that good because everyone fell so far behind the Rams.


That's true.

But Spags improved the Chiefs defense into a top 10 scoring defense jumping from 24 to 7, while their offense actually took a small back.

If this was primarily about their offense, why were they so bad last year with a better offense?
christian  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2020 7:19 pm : link
I don't watch a lot of Chiefs football, but the games I've seen the past two years is the other team usually can't keep up with them or they panic. Even last year, it reminded me of the 1999 Rams.

I'm repeating myself but the 1999 Rams were nowhere near the 4th best defense in the league but they were because other teams abandoned their balance against them.

Why was their defense so bad last year? I don't know but it's a pretty big indictment on that defensive team.

What I'm saying here is that Spags is in a pretty good situation.
Chiefs D has stayed mainly healthy  
Mike in NY : 1/19/2020 7:31 pm : link
Spags has had success when his starters play, but it is mass confusion when they have to rely on depth
RE: RE: Obvious fake punt  
allstarjim : 1/19/2020 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14785928 TheWalrus said:
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Was not obvious to KC




The Spagnuolo Effect


Oh is Spagnuolo their special teams coordinator?

Btw, I thought some of you guys said Henry was going to run wild on the Chiefs? Didn't happen.

Some of you said the Chiefs on defense couldn't handle the
Titans OL, turns out it was the other way around.

Coach Spags is one win away from being a two-time Super Bowl winning DC. Love Coach Spags!
RE: Chiefs D has stayed mainly healthy  
allstarjim : 1/19/2020 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14786118 Mike in NY said:
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Spags has had success when his starters play, but it is mass confusion when they have to rely on depth


This is not really all that true, either, and last week the Chiefs had several of their top defensive players out against the Texans, including Chris Jones.
...  
christian : 1/19/2020 11:09 pm : link
I'm not trying to credit Spags with creating some kind of special defense, and sure it's aided by having a good offense.

But facts are he comes on board, the offense is less good, and the defense is demonstrably better.

If the Giants improved 17 as spots in scoring defense -- this place would go bananas.
RE: ...  
allstarjim : 1/19/2020 11:19 pm : link
In comment 14786448 christian said:
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I'm not trying to credit Spags with creating some kind of special defense, and sure it's aided by having a good offense.

But facts are he comes on board, the offense is less good, and the defense is demonstrably better.

If the Giants improved 17 as spots in scoring defense -- this place would go bananas.


I don't know what so many seem to have against Spags to ding him all the time. To me, he's a great Giant.
contrary to what Frank Clark claims  
bc4life : 1/20/2020 10:49 am : link
Chiefs far from best defense in NFL.

The reason why Titans lost had way more to do with their inability to stops Chiefs' offense - simply too fast for the Chiefs and Titans lacked dynamic pass rusher.

Titan slaso needed a plan B - they should have known that Chiefs would stack the line and focus on Henry.
RE: contrary to what Frank Clark claims  
allstarjim : 1/20/2020 11:08 am : link
In comment 14786816 bc4life said:
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Chiefs far from best defense in NFL.

The reason why Titans lost had way more to do with their inability to stops Chiefs' offense - simply too fast for the Chiefs and Titans lacked dynamic pass rusher.

Titan slaso needed a plan B - they should have known that Chiefs would stack the line and focus on Henry.


Everybody has been stacking the line against Henry and he's killed them anyway. Have you seen the Titans play this year? You don't think the Ravens were doing that? They were. Henry was just still hurting them against 8 and 9 man boxes AND Tannehill gashed them on play-action because the OL held up on protection.

In this game, the Chiefs were better than the OL, and Henry was more limited, and they were able to get to Tannehill enough times and made enough plays to limit the damage Tannehill could do over the top.

The Chiefs defense is A LOT better than people here think.
again  
bc4life : 1/20/2020 11:13 am : link
Titans lacked creativity when Henry could not run. They've improved on defense and a re a pretty good defense - but best in NFL not veen close. despite what Clark the woman beater claims
RE: again  
allstarjim : 1/20/2020 11:41 am : link
In comment 14786859 bc4life said:
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Titans lacked creativity when Henry could not run. They've improved on defense and a re a pretty good defense - but best in NFL not veen close. despite what Clark the woman beater claims


I'm not agreeing with Clark. They do not have the best defense in the NFL. But several on BBI continue to believe that it's just Mahomes and the offense that is the sole reason they are in the Super Bowl. Mahomes deserves a lot of credit and they wouldn't be in the Super Bowl without him. However, they are missing some really good play by the K.C. defense. They stopped Henry when few have been able to this year. It has nothing to do with lacking creativity. It was matchup football and K.C.'s defense manned up against Tennessee and that big, bad OL of the Titans was beaten. The secondary ran with A.J. Brown and Davis. The Titans ran into a team that could actually stop Henry with the loaded boxes, again, other teams were doing that, Henry's longest run against Baltimore was against a 9-man box. Baltimore couldn't stop Henry, New England couldn't stop Henry, and these were supposedly superior defenses. Well, K.C.'s defense did stop Henry.

Then, when they went play action, the Chiefs' secondary held up in coverage and got pressure on Tannehill (5 passes defensed, 3 sacks). And the guy that not a lot of people are talking about is Tanoh Kpassagnon. He had a really good day against a good LT in Lewan.

Again, this defense is better than what people believe. They are really good up front with Kpass, Jones, and Clark. Tyrann Mathieu is playing really well right now, Sorenson at the safety position is playing very physical, this is a team that is hitting and tackling, playing tough at the point and they are getting after the QB.

They are not a liability as some on BBI want to believe.
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