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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2020 8:46 am
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RE: Wait I thought it was all McCarthy fault that  
UConn4523 : 1/19/2020 8:15 pm : link
In comment 14786221 twostepgiants said:
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Rodgers didnít win more Super Bowls?


Considering he had Rodgers in his prime with better weapons, yeah thatís still true IMO.

This Packer team overachieved this year. They really werenít very good outside of the first month when their defense was playing really well. But Seattle got pounded late with injuries and Minnesota was average so it wasnít surprising that they made the NFCC. The big surprise was the Saints.
RE: That Shanahan run-blocking scheme.  
black aces : 1/19/2020 8:16 pm : link
In comment 14786220 Mr. Bungle said:
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Do non-Shanahans just not understand it or something?

This is exactly what Daddy Shanahan's teams did. And it didn't matter who the running back was.


They dont have a 1st round pick at a skill position. Their OT are 1st rounders but their guards were random guys they picked up. They are playing their backup center.
RE: RE: RE: i find it interesting that Rodgers  
Rory : 1/19/2020 8:17 pm : link
In comment 14786225 Nine-Tails said:
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is all by himself on the sideline. not talking to coaches, not talking to players.

Call me crazy but I think this team doesn't want to play for him anymore.



Crazy. Heís arrogant and tough to like, but they are playing in the NFC Championship with mediocre talent in significant part because of him.



Significant part??? Rodgers has been average all year


surprisingly its hasn't been Rodgers, its been Aaron Jones
RE: RE: How did 6 different teams cut Raheem Mostert?  
Producer : 1/19/2020 8:17 pm : link
In comment 14786198 Rory said:
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Glad we aren't one of them



its not him its the offensive line, hence why Brieda, Coleman and Wilson are also successful rb's in this offense


Mostert is the very definition of a system back. He may be a bit better than a jag but he is no way a top-10 back talent-wise. Maybe not even top-20.
This is on par with our 41-0  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 8:19 pm : link
Beatdown of the Vikings
RE: RE: RE: Their mention of Richburg has me wondering...  
j_rud : 1/19/2020 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14786209 FStubbs said:
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He was inconsistent whil here and never quite met expectations following his rookie year. He's since gone on to play well for SF and anchor a line that run blocs exceptionally well despite being known for doing his best work in pass pro.

So how much of that can be attributed to a coaching failure on the Giants part?



It has been my belief that MOST (not all) of our OL issues were related to coaching.

Just think about this for a minute...
Look at all of the draft picks and free agents over the past 6 years. Can anyone truly tell me that NONE of these guys are NFL quality players? Hey.. we did not like Reese and many don't care for Gettleman... but even a squirrel finds a nut once in a while. Throwing a dart at the board would have resulted in at least ONE of the guys playing well. This is why I really believe our coaching has been the primary issue.



I mean, you look at Solder, Remmers, and Zeitler. All 3 were legitimate starting offensive linemen, come here, and all 3 immediately look terrible. I could see one of them falling off a table, but all 3?

Also Hernandez was better day 1 as a rookie than he was at the end of last season. For the record, Ereck Flowers was better as a rookie than he was afterward.


Meanwhile guys leave and improve. We've talked about Richburg. DJ Fluker starts in Seattle. Flowers was a serviceable G in Washington this oast season. Marshall Newhouse filled in in a pinch for NE, a LT no less. I'd include Pugh but he wasnt awful here. Not a first round pick but lets be honest, he screamed "need pick".

Im not saying these guys have left and set the world on fire, but they've been better than they were here. Im really hoping they get this figured out because the complete and utter inability to field a competent OL has been the backbone of this teams failure for nearly a decade.
Lotta razzle dazzle  
j_rud : 1/19/2020 8:21 pm : link
for an 8 yard dump off
RE: Wait I thought it was all McCarthy fault that  
DonQuixote : 1/19/2020 8:25 pm : link
In comment 14786221 twostepgiants said:
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Rodgers didnít win more Super Bowls?


Packers won 6 more games this year and went to the championship game with a rookie HC. I donít think GB fans miss McCarthy at all.
and look  
Rory : 1/19/2020 8:26 pm : link
who scores...
Leonard Williams  
bubba0825 : 1/19/2020 8:35 pm : link
Is enjoying this game
I guess this Packers D  
santacruzom : 1/19/2020 8:39 pm : link
Hasn't quite improved as much as touted. 240 yards rushing?
RE: RE: Wait I thought it was all McCarthy fault that  
twostepgiants : 1/19/2020 8:39 pm : link
In comment 14786245 DonQuixote said:
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In comment 14786221 twostepgiants said:


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Rodgers didnít win more Super Bowls?



Packers won 6 more games this year and went to the championship game with a rookie HC. I donít think GB fans miss McCarthy at all.


McCarthy was there 12 years. They had a 1 year gain this year. Lets we how it goes a little longer. McAdoo was 11-5 his 1st year which was a 5 game improvement over Coughlin..
San Francisco...  
bw in dc : 1/19/2020 8:41 pm : link
Cornhuskers.

They have to be closing in on 300 yards rushing...
Yeah, Rodgers sucks...  
trueblueinpw : 1/19/2020 8:41 pm : link
No idea why people think heís so good at run defense.
4 rushing touchdowns!  
TheWalrus : 1/19/2020 8:42 pm : link
Two weeks from now we are going to get quite the contrast of football teams
Running games in todays NFL  
MookGiants : 1/19/2020 8:45 pm : link
are built upon a great line. Running the ball is still a huge part of todays NFL but the Giants went upon building a great running game backwards. Using the most expensive draft capital there is on the position makes no sense on any level. You could put Manny in CA in the backfield for the 49ers tonigth and he'd run for 150.

Giants line is basically in the same spot it was when Gettleman got here. Laugh out loud bad.

49ers built this thing the right way. Showed patience, but put their draft capital into the correct areas.

Watching these teams today the Giants are light years behind the top teams as far as roster constuction.

RE: Yeah, Rodgers sucks...  
WillVAB : 1/19/2020 8:45 pm : link
In comment 14786266 trueblueinpw said:
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No idea why people think heís so good at run defense.


Yea where was he for 2.5 quarters? GB gets the ball too.
And Rodgers was terrible the first half  
twostepgiants : 1/19/2020 8:46 pm : link
The fumble was one they would accuse Jones of having no pocket awareness on as it was poked out if his hand on what could have been a big play. A bad pick that set up a SF score. He fumbled the snap that

He was a huge part of them being down 27-0.
Raheem Mostert  
tyrik13 : 1/19/2020 8:49 pm : link
Went from practice squad player, 7th team in 4 years to the damn NFC Championship player of the game... give that young man a new contract!!
Lynch  
jtfuoco : 1/19/2020 8:51 pm : link
Deserves more credit for the team he has put together
If McCarthy were still coaching  
santacruzom : 1/19/2020 8:52 pm : link
The Packers would probably punt here.
RE: Lynch  
TheWalrus : 1/19/2020 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14786276 jtfuoco said:
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Deserves more credit for the team he has put together


Well he was named 2019 NFL Executive of the Year. But the decision to bring him and Kyle Shanahan in was pure genius. Big gamble in making a color commentator General Manager but boy has it paid off.

49ers really needed leadership after the Jim Tomsula/Chip Kelly years.
RE: Raheem Mostert  
bw in dc : 1/19/2020 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14786275 tyrik13 said:
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Went from practice squad player, 7th team in 4 years to the damn NFC Championship player of the game... give that young man a new contract!!


Good scouting, good coaching, good scheme = low investment costs on the RB position.
RE: And Rodgers was terrible the first half  
Nine-Tails : 1/19/2020 8:58 pm : link
In comment 14786274 twostepgiants said:
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The fumble was one they would accuse Jones of having no pocket awareness on as it was poked out if his hand on what could have been a big play. A bad pick that set up a SF score. He fumbled the snap that

He was a huge part of them being down 27-0.


It's amazing how some don't get this. Rodgers reminds me of the 2016-17 version of Eli
Lynch and company  
Simms : 1/19/2020 8:59 pm : link
Built a SB team in three seasons. A player who never was in such a leadership role.

Our front office can not figure its way out of a paperbag.
Way too early for onside  
Giantimistic : 1/19/2020 9:02 pm : link
Should have kicked and tried for a stop.
RE: Lynch and company  
Leg of Theismann : 1/19/2020 9:13 pm : link
In comment 14786288 Simms said:
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Built a SB team in three seasons. A player who never was in such a leadership role.

Our front office can not figure its way out of a paperbag.


They couldn't figure their way out of wet paper bag with scissors in their hands.
Niners way too conservative  
jeff57 : 1/19/2020 9:17 pm : link
On both sides of the ball.
Wow  
Danny Kanell : 1/19/2020 9:17 pm : link
This game isnít over yet.
I agree  
mushroom : 1/19/2020 9:18 pm : link
No blitzing no passing
I agree  
mushroom : 1/19/2020 9:18 pm : link
No blitzing no passing
Itís only a two score game  
figgy2989 : 1/19/2020 9:19 pm : link
Lots of time, San Fran needs to pick it up.
RE: Way too early for onside  
Saquads26 : 1/19/2020 9:20 pm : link
In comment 14786294 Giantimistic said:
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Should have kicked and tried for a stop.


Yep and shouldnít have gone for two earlier
Itís all scheme  
Dave on the UWS : 1/19/2020 9:22 pm : link
SF running scheme takes advantage of what their personnel CAN do not what it canít (sound familiar. The OL players they have, the skill players all for what they want to do. The sum of the parts is frater than the individuals. This is what Judge was talking about.
Schadenfreude  
cjac : 1/19/2020 9:30 pm : link
I canít stand Aaron Rodgers. Glad heís going home empty handed
Absolutely embarrassing for the Packers defense  
dpinzow : 1/19/2020 9:33 pm : link
they let Raheem Mostert set a franchise record rushing the ball on them in an NFC championship game no less

The 49ers had hall of fame and all pro RBs in their history and none of them ever ran for as many yards in a game
RE: Schadenfreude  
Mr. Bungle : 1/19/2020 9:35 pm : link
In comment 14786332 cjac said:
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I canít stand Aaron Rodgers. Glad heís going home empty handed

Didn't Aaron Rodgers say "The better team lost" (or something like it) after the Giants kicked their asses in January 2012?
Mahomes gives KC the edge  
morrison40 : 1/19/2020 9:37 pm : link
In the SB. Who else wiould you want with the ball, in the last 5 minutes , to target Richard Sherman to defend a long pass ?
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Danny Kanell : 1/19/2020 9:41 pm : link
This is gonna be a fun Superbowl
Green Bay  
Mike in NY : 1/19/2020 9:42 pm : link
Loses 37-20 again
Congrats to the Niners. They've had quite the turn around this year  
Ira : 1/19/2020 9:46 pm : link
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Don't  
rocco8112 : 1/19/2020 9:46 pm : link
be to hard on Rodgers. It is very difficult to QB two championship runs. Very hard to win a conference title game on the road against a tough physical defense too.

Very hard to do, cut through the best of the NFL to get to the promised land twice. Very few special QB's have done it.
RE: Don't  
Big Blue '56 : 1/19/2020 9:49 pm : link
In comment 14786352 rocco8112 said:
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be to hard on Rodgers. It is very difficult to QB two championship runs. Very hard to win a conference title game on the road against a tough physical defense too.

Very hard to do, cut through the best of the NFL to get to the promised land twice. Very few special QB's have done it.


And then there was Eli
RE: Don't  
montanagiant : 1/19/2020 9:50 pm : link
In comment 14786352 rocco8112 said:
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be to hard on Rodgers. It is very difficult to QB two championship runs. Very hard to win a conference title game on the road against a tough physical defense too.

Very hard to do, cut through the best of the NFL to get to the promised land twice. Very few special QB's have done it.

I see what you did there and I LIKE it!
RE: Way too early for onside  
bw in dc : 1/19/2020 9:51 pm : link
In comment 14786294 Giantimistic said:
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Should have kicked and tried for a stop.


100%. Recovering onside kicks has become virtually impossible with the rules.
Thank you, Mook ...  
Manny in CA : 1/19/2020 10:11 pm : link

I'm 73 now (I'm blessed) and a bad hip; but yes, ] do think I could go for 150 with the huge holes that 49ers O-line was blowing open.
RE: Mahomes gives KC the edge  
Leg of Theismann : 1/19/2020 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14786340 morrison40 said:
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In the SB. Who else wiould you want with the ball, in the last 5 minutes , to target Richard Sherman to defend a long pass ?


I agree. I think Mahomes is the X-factor in SB LIV. He won't only be the best player on the field, he is best player in the LEAGUE, bar none. A guy who has that much talent, physical ability, awareness, competitive spirit, combined with just being a flat-out gamer... does not come around often.

I can't wait to see that KC offense square off against this SF defense, but again, I just think when the chips are down Mahomes is the guy you want, and that's why I'm picking them to win.

Should be a fantastic Super Bowl.
Why does Kyle Shanahan always sound like he's out of breath?  
Leg of Theismann : 1/19/2020 10:21 pm : link
Literally always sounds like he just got done running a 5k. Listening to his PC now.
RE: Don't  
kes722 : 1/19/2020 10:31 pm : link
In comment 14786352 rocco8112 said:
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be to hard on Rodgers. It is very difficult to QB two championship runs. Very hard to win a conference title game on the road against a tough physical defense too.

Very hard to do, cut through the best of the NFL to get to the promised land twice. Very few special QB's have done it.


Well played
Some weird stats...  
Milton : 1/20/2020 1:27 am : link
Packers throw the ball 39 times and run it 16 times
Niners throw the ball 8 times and run it 42 times
But Packers win time of possession 31 minutes to 29 minutes???
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