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Remember when McAdoo wanted a “heavy-handed” team?

yatqb : 1/19/2020 11:34 am
Now Judge wants a physical team “that will punch you in the nose for 60 minutes”.

It’s time for us to make all our personnel decisions with that in mind. We haven’t had that type of team since the Parcells era. So, no talk of Simmons, since he is more AA than an LT in terms of strength and power. No more drafting WRs #1 until we have the OL to knock people on their asses.

DG at least has that inclination with his selections of Hernandez and Lawrence. I’m hoping that he directs all our energy to landing a physical OL and a defense that is consistently in the QB’s face.

No more pretty players. Time for a team of beasts, “crazed dogs” or whatever LT said.
Off topic,  
Big Blue '56 : 1/19/2020 11:36 am : link
but when you mentioned Parcells, what popped into my head was his preference for Big 10 players because they would be able to handle the wind and cold during November and December.
RE: Off topic,  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/19/2020 11:52 am : link
In comment 14785483 Big Blue '56 said:
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but when you mentioned Parcells, what popped into my head was his preference for Big 10 players because they would be able to handle the wind and cold during November and December.


He got that from Woody Hayes.

Some bullshit about “if you gotta swim in the Atlantic, you have to train in the Atlantic!l
RE: RE: Off topic,  
eric2425ny : 1/19/2020 11:58 am : link
In comment 14785494 McNally's_Nuts said:
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In comment 14785483 Big Blue '56 said:


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but when you mentioned Parcells, what popped into my head was his preference for Big 10 players because they would be able to handle the wind and cold during November and December.



He got that from Woody Hayes.

Some bullshit about “if you gotta swim in the Atlantic, you have to train in the Atlantic!l


Lol, and “if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!“ - Patches O’Houlihan




You are  
MotownGIANTS : 1/19/2020 12:10 pm : link
spot on! This team is multiple pieces of away on both sides of the ball but the O is closer than the D. We have a tier 2 WR1 (Slayton), 2 tier 1 WR (Shep/Tate), oft-injured EE at TE being misused to boot. Then there is the OL that needs to open holes for a great talent in Barkley and a promising young QB. C is an issue both Ts need an upgrade LT ASAP. Solder overpay for a necessary evil it is FA ... however him falling off a cliff was unexpected he declined drastically, if you give age (hopefully it more mental - dealing /w his son). At obtain a true starting C in FA (B.J. Finney, C, Steelers could be an economically option) and someone that can give serious competition at T (D.J. Humphries, OT, Cardinals). This would allow us to go OL at the 4 (hopefully we can trade down and get a 3rd back) and go ER in the 2nd.

Then BPA based of value rest of the draft we need talent upgrades everywhere. *almost completely ignoring position*
Yes  
arniefez : 1/19/2020 12:12 pm : link
thank you. Couldn't agree more.
Funny because  
Daniel in MI : 1/19/2020 12:13 pm : link
Yesterday the Accoursi interview talked about how both he and Young wanted QB first, and to rush the QB 2nd. Both those guys built SB teams. Assuming DJ is the QB, step 2 is rush the passer. We have no one.
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Big Blue '56 : 1/19/2020 12:31 pm : link
In comment 14785494 McNally's_Nuts said:
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In comment 14785483 Big Blue '56 said:


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but when you mentioned Parcells, what popped into my head was his preference for Big 10 players because they would be able to handle the wind and cold during November and December.



He got that from Woody Hayes.

Some bullshit about “if you gotta swim in the Atlantic, you have to train in the Atlantic!l


😂😂
Giants  
PaulN : 1/19/2020 12:39 pm : link
Need a pass rusher, in fact they need two, that is why a trade back would be great, I would thrilled with the 2 Iowa kids, Epenesa and Wirfs. If they could somehow land these two guys, what a day that would be
Like Shurmur, he had a bad GM  
Soundtrack : 1/19/2020 12:40 pm : link
Coaches need players.
that's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/19/2020 12:41 pm : link
why you have to take everything Judge says with a grain of salt at this point.

He may be the real deal. He may not. Proof is in the pudding.
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eric2425ny : 1/19/2020 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14785560 Eric from BBI said:
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why you have to take everything Judge says with a grain of salt at this point.

He may be the real deal. He may not. Proof is in the pudding.


Agreed. While I like what I am hearing so far, I need to see them win some games. It’s been a rough several years now. My biggest concern is the defense. I hope Graham is the real deal. It’s hard watching a team with such a great defensive tradition play so poorly on that side of the ball.
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mdc1 : 1/19/2020 1:01 pm : link
In comment 14785494 McNally's_Nuts said:
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In comment 14785483 Big Blue '56 said:


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but when you mentioned Parcells, what popped into my head was his preference for Big 10 players because they would be able to handle the wind and cold during November and December.



He got that from Woody Hayes.

Some bullshit about “if you gotta swim in the Atlantic, you have to train in the Atlantic!l


give it a rest, these players have thermal gear now. Most skiers stand in temps below 10 degrees and are fine.
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McNally's_Nuts : 1/19/2020 1:02 pm : link
In comment 14785550 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 14785494 McNally's_Nuts said:


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In comment 14785483 Big Blue '56 said:


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but when you mentioned Parcells, what popped into my head was his preference for Big 10 players because they would be able to handle the wind and cold during November and December.



He got that from Woody Hayes.

Some bullshit about “if you gotta swim in the Atlantic, you have to train in the Atlantic!l



😂😂


I’m not even kidding. It’s in Parcells book that came out a few years ago.

Mark Collins has stated that he didn’t think Parcells like him because George Young drafted him (and apparently overruled Parcells) and because he went to school in California and thought he was soft.
Where do you get no more talk of  
tyrik13 : 1/19/2020 1:41 pm : link
Simmons?? Have you even listened to what the coaches have been saying?? Versatility, versatility, versatility!! Isaiah Simmons is the poster child of what they’ve all been preaching. Matter of fact, I would put 100 dollars on it that he’ll be our pick
I’d take that bet...or if we meet at an away game  
yatqb : 1/19/2020 1:52 pm : link
we can buy each other a beer.
OP's tone is wrong  
giantstock : 1/19/2020 3:25 pm : link
He says
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DG at least has that inclination with his selections of Hernandez and Lawrence.
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He didn't have ENOUGH inclination to adress theOLINe.

First off most of us realize that Solder was a blunder. Every time anyone mentions "we had to get him" - when you ask them then what was DG's then if he got his priority instead of Norwell?

What you get in response is "silence." That's because it just isn't true that they had to sign Solder. You never need to be deliberately stupid when you are in a rebuild.

When you add this blunder with lousy FA signings of Omameh, and Stewart along with wasting more money in trade with getting the lousy Ogletree - it was an incredible waste of money. Then add that with the signing of Tate this year instead of going after someone liek Morse -- it just shows DG was just incompetent so far addressing the OLINE.

Answer this question-- long-term where does guys like Solder, Omamheh, Stewart and Tate fit into a rebuild? For this-- along not blowing so much on Ogeltree you could have been in a strong position to get THREE young OLINEMEN just on these moves alone.
RE: OP's tone is wrong  
giantstock : 1/19/2020 3:28 pm : link
In comment 14785763 giantstock said:
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He says
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DG at least has that inclination with his selections of Hernandez and Lawrence.
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He didn't have ENOUGH inclination to adress theOLINe.

First off most of us realize that Solder was a blunder. Every time anyone mentions "we had to get him" - when you ask them then what was DG's then if he got his priority instead of Norwell?

What you get in response is "silence." That's because it just isn't true that they had to sign Solder. You never need to be deliberately stupid when you are in a rebuild.

When you add this blunder with lousy FA signings of Omameh, and Stewart along with wasting more money in trade with getting the lousy Ogletree - it was an incredible waste of money. Then add that with the signing of Tate this year instead of going after someone liek Morse -- it just shows DG was just incompetent so far addressing the OLINE.

Answer this question-- long-term where does guys like Solder, Omamheh, Stewart and Tate fit into a rebuild? For this-- along not blowing so much on Ogeltree you could have been in a strong position to get THREE young OLINEMEN just on these moves alone.


Regarding trading for Solder instead of saying --
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when you ask them then what was DG's then if he got his priority instead of Norwell?
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I meant to say what if he got Norwell instead-- which was his 1st priority. Then what was his plan to get a LT if had paid so much to get Norwell?
RE: Off topic,  
Big Al : 1/19/2020 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14785483 Big Blue '56 said:
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but when you mentioned Parcells, what popped into my head was his preference for Big 10 players because they would be able to handle the wind and cold during November and December.
Or Boston College and Syracuse.
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